Do we really need/want to be in the top 4 going into the SEC tournament?

#51
#51
zansdad said:
Well, since Vandys last 3 games are on the road @ Kentucky, at home against Florida, and @ TBA, it's entirely reasonable (20% per rpiforcast) that they lose all 3. Our odds per the same site for winning out are about 6%. So while these are not great odds, I would put them at as least as likely as a 7-7 football team winning 6 straight games to be Superbowl champs, so there's still some hope.
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We only need them to lose to uk, bama to lose 1, and we win out.

That happens we are 3rd
 
#52
#52
calban said:
I'd agree. Keep the 10 for Vandy and raise the 5 some for a road win. It's about a +.09 difference for the SC road win because of the 1.4 and of course it's divided by .25 and only figured on winning percentage.
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If we can be at 65, 3 seed and playing miss at and Florida for our 2 wins that'd put us in the 40's.

Correct?
 
#53
#53
calban said:
I'd agree. Keep the 10 for Vandy and raise the 5 some for a road win. It's about a +.09 difference for the SC road win because of the 1.4 and of course it's divided by .25 and only figured on winning percentage.
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Based on just the change in win percentage UT would move to 92 with a road win. Of course that would drop some for SoCar's bad winning percentage. Just got to hope the drop isn't to much
 
#55
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dlew said:
I like your attitude but that is extremely optimisitic if not unrealistic.
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What part is unrealistic?

I'm not Saying its gonna happen or is likely, but what part isn't true?

If they win out they should be around 65-70. They'll most likely be a 3 seed and will play 2 good rpi teams each boosting their rpi about 10 each.

That'd put them around 45-50.
 
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#57
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dlew said:
What part is unrealistic?

How about winning back to back road games...
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We're discussing possibilities not the probabilities, which are of course very low.
In urban language that's 'what ifs' not 'gonna bes'
 
#58
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dlew said:
What part is unrealistic?

How about winning back to back road games...
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Ok that's fine. I'm going under the basis we win out, if we don't then none of it matters.

It's just having fun and projecting things as to what if this happened that is all.

If UT does win out then on this is what could happened, but if they don't well then we all know what's gonna happen.
 
#60
#60
As I said you are optimistic which I appreciate. I still think our RPI is far too low to dance at this point without winning the SEC tourney.
 
#61
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dlew said:
As I said you are optimistic which I appreciate. I still think our RPI is far too low to dance at this point without winning the SEC tourney.
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Oh it's absolutely way to low at this point no question about it.

That's why we'd have to win the next 5 to even be considered.
 
#64
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bleedingTNorange said:
Oh it's absolutely way to low at this point no question about it.

That's why we'd have to win the next 5 to even be considered.
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Winning 8 of our last ten heading into the conference tourney, going 2-1 in the SECT, and we are a lock IMO. Can we do it? Absolutely! Will we do it? Probably not. LSU on the road is going to be really tough IMO. Vandy at home is no cakewalk either, SC on the road is the most likely win left on our plate as far as how I see things.
 
#65
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DaDuRkEr said:
Winning 8 of our last ten heading into the conference tourney, going 2-1 in the SECT, and we are a lock IMO. Can we do it? Absolutely! Will we do it? Probably not. LSU on the road is going to be really tough IMO. Vandy at home is no cakewalk either, SC on the road is the most likely win left on our plate as far as how I see things.
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That's pretty much how I see it as well Durk.
 
#66
#66
Glad we are seeing eye to eye on this one. I know the committee would as well and damn it would feel good to hear our name called in a couple Sunday's!
 
#70
#70
bleedingTNorange said:
That's a huge game for miss st.
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It's a huge game for us too. At this point I would rather take a 5 or 6 seed then a 4. 2,3,5,6 seeds would be our best hope to do damage in the SEC tourney. If bama gets past Miss st. I don't see them losing either of their last two.
 
#71
#71
sdowell said:
sorry fellas, but i don't think we will win at l s u. this would put us in the nit. that's really where we need to be going, anyway. that tourney would give this team more chances to win a few games and get some valuable experience for next year. just my :twocents:
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Are you serious?

I would rather go to a sixth straight NCAA Tournament and lose by 30 in the first round (not that I would expect that we would) than for our program to take a step back and play in the NIT.

After playing more than 30 games this season, playing a few more in the NIT isn't going to make a bit of difference in terms of experience, valuable or not.

To somehow make the NCAA Tournament after all the crap this program has been through since last year, and with the loss of so many players, a coaching change, and losing at home to Austin Peay in December, would be a huge achievement even if we were one-and-done.

If we do end up in the NIT, that's fine. But it sure as heck isn't something to wish for, or anything that's meaningful in any way for our program.
 
#74
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Volman09 said:
It's a huge game for us too. At this point I would rather take a 5 or 6 seed then a 4. 2,3,5,6 seeds would be our best hope to do damage in the SEC tourney. If bama gets past Miss st. I don't see them losing either of their last two.
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Unfortunately, of we want a chance to dance, we have to win out. If we win out we're gonna finish either 3,4 or 5.

A 5 puts us 2 wins away from playing UK in the semis, not the most ideal situation. A 4 puts us 1 win away from playing UK in the semis.

Our best chances to make a run will be with a 3 seed. With that said if we happened to beat UK that'd beca huge RPI booster. I'm still hoping for a Miss St win over Bama.

Our next problem though then becomes, if bama wins 2 but loses vs miss st they are in the dance. We would need miss st to win vs bama and lose their other 2 so that they'd be a bubble team. Basically I'm saying sec most likely only gets 5, with bama winning they're in most likely, so now we need miss st out, unfortunately we also need them to beat bama.
 
#75
#75
WA_Vol said:
With an RPI of 109 NCAA College Basketball Rankings - CBSSports.com News, Scores, Stats, Schedule and RPI Rankings

UT is not getting into the NCAA tournament unless they win the SEC tourney.
Sorry to burst some bubbles in here.
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If we're discussing bubbles, you probably need to read the fine print on the CBS bracket projections.

It is based on current records and teams that would be in today with those records.

There are over 15 teams currently on the bubble who are in the same position as TN. they have to win the remainder of their games to stay there.

Will they? Who knows.
Will TN? Evidently your opinion is they won't.
Some of us would rather play the rest of the schedule.
Hate to bust your bubble.
 
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