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Freak said:
Surely aren't suggesting people rate coaches based on one game.
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No, but there are other factors, e.g. O'Neill has been an NBA head coach.

It would be interesting to see what he could have done at UT had he not inherited a 5-win Wade Houston team and if someone other than Dickey was AD when he was hired.
 
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Haha so we went to the sweet sixteen twice ever before 2005. And Bruce has done it 3 times in 5 years. Like I said get the 5 greatest years ever and compare them to bruce's 5. All of these arguments are in my favor. So we had some good players. They didnt accomplish much when they were here and when they left the program went right back in the tube. Thats not making a program.
 
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bam15 said:
Don Devoe and Ray Mears think you're retarded.

So does Allan Houston, Ernie Grunfeld, Tony White, Dale Ellis, Bernard King, and Reggie Johnson.

A slightly better Jerry Green doesn't qualify as the founder of the program.
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I think the point was (at least for me), that has been 30+ years ago. A lot of younger fans have no memory of that time.

Between DeVoe's departure and Pearl's arrival was more losing than winning.
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No, but there are other factors, e.g. O'Neill has been an NBA head coach.

It would be interesting to see what he could have done at UT had he not inherited a 5-win Wade Houston team and if someone other than Dickey was AD when he was hired.

What has he done at any of his coaching jobs?? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING
 
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braths said:
The only accomplishment of Bruce's that hadn't been done in UT bball history was the Elite Eight appearance. Jerry Green was in the Sweet Sixteen in 2000 and Don Devoe in 1982. Devoe went to the tournament several years in a row. Ray Mears won three SEC titles.

EDIT: It is indeed not as much as CBP accomplished, but everybody acting like UT basketball began five years ago is absurd.
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The fact is he has taken the program to where it has never been before.

However, those who claim he is UT basketball are full of feces.
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Freak said:
Between DeVoe's departure and Pearl's arrival was more losing than winning.
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Without a doubt, but it would be nice for people to stop bowing at Pearl's altar long enough to see that UT basketball does indeed have more history than just the last five years.
 
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Freak said:
I think the point was (at least for me), that has been 30+ years ago. A lot of younger fans have no memory of that time.

Between DeVoe's departure and Pearl's arrival was more losing than winning.
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Point taken.

But in no way shape or form did Pearl create this program.
 
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SGMVols said:
No, but there are other factors, e.g. O'Neill has been an NBA head coach.

It would be interesting to see what he could have done at UT had he not inherited a 5-win Wade Houston team and if someone other than Dickey was AD when he was hired.
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It would have been interesting to see what he would have done if he stayed at Tennessee but the fact is, O'Neill has never won on the college level (that I can recall) in several tries.
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Lofton4Three said:
The fact is he has taken the program to where it has never been before.

However, those who claim he is UT basketball are full of feces.
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Not disputing your first statement. And I certainly agree with the second statement.
 
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Freak said:
I think the point was (at least for me), that has been 30+ years ago. A lot of younger fans have no memory of that time.

Between DeVoe's departure and Pearl's arrival was more losing than winning.
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But the program is over 100 years old. I'm only 25, but I can respect that. No, we aren't an elite powerhouse and our best years are definitely ahead of us. That doesn't mean we should pretend like Bruce Pearl founded our team. And that isn't a knock against him. We should just have some damn dignity.

Example: No team has beaten Kentucky more times than Tennessee. That has nothing to do with Bruce Pearl.
 
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Once again what history is that?? Tennessee is the most underachieving program in history. Its never lived up to its potential until now.
 
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Freak said:
I think the point was (at least for me), that has been 30+ years ago. A lot of younger fans have no memory of that time.
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That doesn't mean it didn't happen, it means most Pearlophile fans are history ignorant Johnny Come Latelys. That's their problem, not mine.
 
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bam15 said:
Point taken.

But in no way shape or form did Pearl create this program.
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Define 'create'. Are some suggesting basketball wasn't played here before Pearl arrived?
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"Every program he's inherited was a disaster prior to his arrival. The UT team Pearl took over from Buzz was Kentucky compared to what O'Neill inherited from Wade Houston."

And he never turned any of them. Sounds like the opposite of bruce pearl. In a bad way.
 
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Freak said:
Define 'create'. Are some suggesting basketball wasn't played here before Pearl arrived?
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Most posters that are on this forum act as if Pearl created UT basketball with his bare hands, which simply is not the case.
 
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BigOrangePassion1 said:
"Every program he's inherited was a disaster prior to his arrival. The UT team Pearl took over from Buzz was Kentucky compared to what O'Neill inherited from Wade Houston."

And he never turned any of them. Sounds like the opposite of bruce pearl. In a bad way.
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Yeah, KO didn't improve Marquette. Just ask Rick Pitino.
 
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That doesn't mean it didn't happen, it means most Pearlophile fans are history ignorant Johnny Come Latelys. That's their problem, not mine.

2 sweet 16s EVER. 3 in 5 yrs. 2000 people in the stands. 20000 people in the stands.
 
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Lofton4Three said:
The fact is he has taken the program to where it has never been before.

However, those who claim he is UT basketball are full of feces.
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I swear, you have never made a post with anything of substance. Do you ever have a unique point of view? You try so hard to sound like Hatvol it is embarrassing.
 
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Most posters that are on this forum act as if Pearl created UT basketball with his bare hands, which simply is not the case.

Ok so they basketball before pearl? Did they do it well. NO
 
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Yeah, KO didn't improve Marquette. Just ask Rick Pitino.

What was his record there?? Whats Bruce Pearl record? Lets just compare facts. Instead of recanting the same dumb lines over and over. Someone please take the greatest 5 years in tennessee basketball history and compare them to the last 5.
 
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BigOrangePassion1 said:
What is your IQ?? To say that pearl didnt make the program is utter stupidity. Thats number 1. Number 2 is, you cant root for the team to win and hate the guy who made the team a winner. It doesnt make any sense.
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Pearl is not the only person to carry this program to the NCAA tournament. Pearl has as many Nat'l Championships here at UT that every one of his predecessors have, 0. Bruce Pearl is a good coach, but he did not make UT basketball...at all.
 
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