Do you see what Dave Hart has done?

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TNHopeful505 said:
Btw, don't say "They did tell us what happened with Gruden."

One reporter said "Didn't want to deal with college"
"Hangup on assistant pay"
"didn't offer"
"Never talked to him"
"Not enough control"

NONE of those give an actual explanation of anything. At all.

I want a REAL explanation that is consistent with the fantasy.
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#55
#55
They are actually hiring Strong just for cover. Gruden has been hired as head coach. Strong will handle all practices, recruiting, etc just as if he is the coach, and Gruden will remain hidden.
 
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I have said it before and I will say it again- it is not Hart's fault that a portion of the fanbase consists of raging morons who lap up rumors about a pipe dream.
 
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#60
Someone PLEASE tell me the OP is just drunk. If not, dude please don't go to work tomorrow, go seek professional help.

The guys who need to answer your questions are the trolls that pumped gruden that so many on here were gullible enough to believe. Either they were trolled or are trolls. Think about it, there is no way it was a 'done deal' even before there was an opening.
 
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Just think. What if Gruden was never a realistic candidate to begin with and Hart still called his agent bc Hart wanted to appease the fanbase. Could you imagine how awkward that would have been for Hart. If that's the case then I respect the AD for doing his "due dilligence" as LaMonte quoted him saying. But these are all things that are speculatory at best and we will always wonder "if."
 
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A bunch of guys talk up their friend and give him false confidence to go hit on the girl that's way out of his league. He does it bc his friends pressured him into it. He gets shot down and she tells him she is not interested in him at all. But at least he tried when nobody else would.
 
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secking said:
Someone PLEASE tell me the OP is just drunk. If not, dude please don't go to work tomorrow, go seek professional help.

The guys who need to answer your questions are the trolls that pumped gruden that so many on here were gullible enough to believe. Either they were trolled or are trolls. Think about it, there is no way it was a 'done deal' even before there was an opening.
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I'm not drunk, lol. I'm a preacher.

But I will agree with you this far. If Gruden is not coach, I would like for the OG's to publicly name their sources.

I have a feeling if they named their "sources" (If they even could), that we would most likely hear some names of people who wouldn't have the slightest clue of whats going on.

But it also could be that some of them have credible sources that are either correct or misled.

But if Gruden isn't it, I'd LOVE to hear the names of their "Sources..." Since, after all, there would be nothing to lose then.
 
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#64
OP, what would satisfy you? A note from Dave Hart? From Jon Gruden? How about an explanation from the pope? Maybe Jimmy Haslem himself? Dude, he had an offer and apparently refused it. No further explanation matters. He did not want the job so we wish him well and move on. So be it.
 
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#65
Dave Hart is looking more and more like an absolute idiot. He's had weeks to grab us a good coach and now we're looking at Strong(who very well may stay at Louisville) Gundy(who most likely will stay at OK State) and Fedora. Hart has royally screwed this search up. We're going to get stuck with another Dooley. Watch and see. Our program is officially going down the tubes.
 
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brad37128 said:
JG turned us down. It's that simple. Get over it. If the man does not want to be here so be it. Who is to say he would not be bored in a couple of years and run back to the NFL?

The OG sources were boosters and low level people in the AD dept. They forgot to check with the Gruden camp. As his agent stated this was all a joke.
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Source? Or guessing? You decide.
 
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#67
Butch Davis and Jim Tressel looking pretty good at this point. I could get on board with any coach, but not Petrino. I think he's sleazy and makes Davis and Tressel look like angels.
 
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#68
Ok OGs, you drank the koolaid, hell some of you obviously opened the pouch, poured it in the pitcher and have been stirring it all along ( my source, the big boys, etc etc etc) in hopes it would somehow magically morph into the milkshake of your dreams. If anyone thinks Hart as AD when he does hold his presser is going to spend more than 3 seconds entertaining the idea when announcing his choice as next HC of spending any amount of time talking about the guys he didn't select, you're flat out mentally ill, seek professional help. Hart will enthusiastically gush all over the next HC at UT and spend all camera time making it about that person. gruden was a vapor coach at UT, he was the last time you cats pushed, he was this time as well ... I will say some of you had me convinced there for awhile ... I gave some of you a helluva lot more credibility than you deserved.
 
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SmileyVol_c/o_10 said:
Butch Davis and Jim Tressel looking pretty good at this point. I could get on board with any coach, but not Petrino. I think he's sleazy and makes Davis and Tressel look like angels.
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Davis would be the only realistic choice of the 3. We don't know if Petrino would be able to recruit with everything surrounding him, and Tressel has a show cause until 2017.
 
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sanddune50 said:
Davis would be the only realistic choice of the 3. We don't know if Petrino would be able to recruit with everything surrounding him, and Tressel has a show cause until 2017.
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yeah i looked into the show cause earlier today. and to my understanding, he could coach in 2013, but would not be allowed to be involved in any practices, meetings or games for the first 5 games of the season. If his team is bowl eligible, the team can participate in the bowl, but he cannot....if that's the case, then its really not THAT bad...you know, if our options are as limited as they seem. i'll dig up the link for you.
 
#71
#71
Everyone back off Dave Hart, especially you reds.

There are two searches going on. Ignore the people behind the curtain. This is a booster search that's the serious one.
 
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#73
With where we are on the coaching fiasco, I think the NCAA should have to show cause of why we shouldn't hire Tressell.
 
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volzfanz said:
With where we are on the coaching fiasco, I think the NCAA should have to show cause of why we shouldn't hire Tressell.
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lol very true. and UT's probation is only a minor hurdle. if anything, it enforces a culture of compliance to be squeaky clean along with Tressel reporting to the NCAA every 6 months
 
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TNHopeful505 said:
No, he did not get a great college coach. IF Strong is hired, he got a marginal coach who has had ONE good year of head coaching success with two inexplicable losses in it, in a weak Big East. He has shown nothing that shows that he can recruit elite talent, or produce consistent success, or win the games he was supposed to.
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If you fish in a pond that only has 6 inch fish, the odds of a two footer are pretty slim....you cant judge the hire against every coach in the nation.....only against every AVAILABLE and INTERESTED coach in the nation
 
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