Does Chandler really cut it as a PG

#76
#76
Chandler's free throw shooting is probably overblown. He shot 75% over the first 12 games of the season, had a rough 3 game stretch where he shot under 50 percent on 10-22, which happened right after he missed vs Alabama due to Covid. He's shot 70% over the last 8 games, including a 5-6 and 6-6 from the line in the last 6 games.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Goalpost82 and Lankykong
#78
#78
Volnuck said:
I think he is good, but he has not played like the #1 point guard in the nation. 2 things a point guard can’t do, turn the ball over and miss free throws, he does both regularly. He basically had a “0“ day until the last 3 minutes Saturday. I hope he gets it all together, if not though, the draft will be interesting.
Click to expand...
Name the other freshmen PGs at Power 6 schools that have clearly outplayed him?

It'll be a really short list.
 
  • Like
Reactions: GenRRN, Salvare, Goalpost82 and 4 others
#80
#80
VolFreakJosh said:
He’s a good PG that could use another year of college.

Not sure he’s quite NBA ready yet.
Click to expand...
he is ready for the draft.. whether they take a shine to him is gonna be up to what we do come tourney time. If we make a deep run he is gonna be in the lottery pick convo. the talent is there for all to see. he plays in a system that is notoriously hard on PG's for a program that's not a basketball blueblood. It kinda sad because If he was putting up those same numbers at Duke or Kentucky or blowing up the world at a mid major, he'd be in everyone's lottery conversations. UT is in a weird place for BB. We are a respected program, that plays in a good conference.

If you went to the Forbes list of the top richest Americans 8 of the guys on there most people would know

#1 | Jeff Bezos
#2 | Elon Musk
#3 | Bill Gates
#4 | Mark Zuckerberg
#5 | Warren Buffett
#6 | Larry Ellison
#7 | Larry Page
#8 | Sergey Brin
#9 | Steve Ballmer
#10 | Alice Walton

Right there at number 8 is Sergey Brinn.. (7-8 are all google btw) most people have no idea who they are.. quite a few would know Alice Walton (Walmart/Sams club heiress). In basketball UT is like that.. we are rich got players in the league and have fairly consistently put them there. We have a huge fanbase but we kinda just seem to slip through the cracks in a lot of cases Football also to some extent. It hurts to hear it but outside of the south, our name does not ring as hard. The cross-contamination with Texas in color and logo does not help it much either.
 
#81
#81
TheMookieMonster said:
TyTy Washington. That’s it. And even that is debatable.
Click to expand...

I’m right there with you.

None of them “definitely” are, as he is producing as well or better than any of them.


KENNEDY CHANDLER, Tennessee, #1 pg, 13.1 points, 3.1 rebounds, 4.8 assists, 2.3 steals, 2.8 to, 44%, 31.7 3pt%

TyTy Washington, KY, #4 pg - 12.8 points, 3.8 rebounds, 4.1 assists, 1.3 steals, 1.7 to, 47.7%, 34.6 3pt %,

Chandler has just a bit more points per, TyTy has .6 rebounds more per, Chandler has .7 more assists per, Chandler has 1 more steal per and TyTy .6 fewer to’s…….and his % is a bit better.

If folks think TyTy is getting it done…….they have to believe Chandler is as well.
 
  • Like
Reactions: sechamp2012, GenRRN, Salvare and 2 others
#85
#85
Stoerner Fumbles said:
What exactly is “Memphis” about him? What is that code for?
Click to expand...

No code... If you watch Memphis teams in football a and basketball (basketball in particular) there seems to be an aggressive, somewhat belligerent attitude that is not as obvious in other parts of the state. But the main thing that has always jumped out at me is the undisciplined behavior of the Memphis players. (example being usually overall superior athletic teams over other parts of the state, but lose championships to better prepared and disciplined teams) For what ever reason (I expect coaching style) I and others call this the "Memphis way".
 
  • Like
Reactions: orangemadam, chuckiepoo and Volle
#86
#86
cncchris33 said:
Chris Paul
Click to expand...
Chris Paul appears much more muscled than KC and IIRC Paul was heavier than KC coming out of Wake. Hopefully KC should add some good weight over the next few years to allow him to absorb contact in the nba. If he doesn’t get stronger, he will struggle at the next level, but he’s still a teenager so his body should continue to change
 
#87
#87
walkenvol said:
Chris Paul appears much more muscled than KC and IIRC Paul was heavier than KC coming out of Wake. Hopefully KC should add some good weight over the next few years to allow him to absorb contact in the nba. If he doesn’t get stronger, he will struggle at the next level, but he’s still a teenager so his body should continue to change
Click to expand...
Chris Paul listed at 6-0, 175 lbs at WF.

Kennedy Chandler listed at 6-0 172 lbs at UT.

Paul also stayed at Wake for two years while KC is still a freshman.

Paul's freshman numbers...
14.8 pts, 3.3 rebs, 5.9 assts, 2.6 TOs, 2.7 stls

Chandler's freshman numbers...
13.1 pts, 3.1 rebs, 4.8 assts, 2.8 TOs, 2.3 stls

Shooting %s easily favor CP, but Chandler has shown an ability there. He just needs to hone that skill.
 
  • Like
Reactions: volsack7, Willy14, Lankykong and 3 others
#88
#88
cncchris33 said:
Chris Paul listed at 6-0, 175 lbs at WF.

Kennedy Chandler listed at 6-0 172 lbs at UT.

Paul also stayed at Wake for two years while KC is still a freshman.

Paul's freshman numbers...
14.8 pts, 3.3 rebs, 5.9 assts, 2.6 TOs, 2.7 stls

Chandler's freshman numbers...
13.1 pts, 3.1 rebs, 4.8 assts, 2.8 TOs, 2.3 stls

Shooting %s easily favor CP, but Chandler has shown an ability there. He just needs to hone that skill.
Click to expand...

So, what you’re saying is Kennedy really needs to stay a second year so he can be the next Chris Paul? Someone call Rick! 😅😬
 
  • Like
Reactions: volsack7, Willy14, cncchris33 and 3 others
#92
#92
cncchris33 said:
Chris Paul listed at 6-0, 175 lbs at WF.

Kennedy Chandler listed at 6-0 172 lbs at UT.

Paul also stayed at Wake for two years while KC is still a freshman.

Paul's freshman numbers...
14.8 pts, 3.3 rebs, 5.9 assts, 2.6 TOs, 2.7 stls

Chandler's freshman numbers...
13.1 pts, 3.1 rebs, 4.8 assts, 2.8 TOs, 2.3 stls

Shooting %s easily favor CP, but Chandler has shown an ability there. He just needs to hone that skill.
Click to expand...
This comparison is flawed as Chris Paul was a full three pounds heavier. Fire Barnes!
 
  • Like
Reactions: volsack7, GenRRN, chuckiepoo and 1 other person
#93
#93
JoAllan said:
Did you even read over the material provided?

While he has turned the ball over…….so do a lot of freshman PG’s. However he also has quite a few assists. He plays more minutes than anyone on the team. As shown, for the most part he has met or exceeded the “other” very top PG’s of this year and the past several seasons.

Sure his free % is down…….but excuse me that isn’t near the main requirement for a “freshman” PG.

As shown: who of the top 10 true freshman PG’s is overwhelmingly/certainly better?
Click to expand...

You just gave excuses not answers. I did read the material but as good as he is, I still ask my same questions, and can back them up with numbers (not excuses).
 
#94
#94
golfballs said:
Why do you expect him to be the #1 PG in the nation?
Click to expand...
Because that is the credentials he walked in the door with. I’m not beating him down, just asking obvious questions. So, you will be happy if he plays like a top 100 point guard, I bet Kennedy would not put the bar so low for himself.
 
#95
#95
Volnuck said:
Because that is the credentials he walked in the door with. I’m not beating him down, just asking obvious questions. So, you will be happy if he plays like a top 100 point guard, I bet Kennedy would not put the bar so low for himself.
Click to expand...
Oh you mean freshman PG. I’d say that he’s probably only second to TyTy, who was also a 5*
 
  • Like
Reactions: cncchris33
#97
#97
Volnuck said:
Because that is the credentials he walked in the door with. I’m not beating him down, just asking obvious questions. So, you will be happy if he plays like a top 100 point guard, I bet Kennedy would not put the bar so low for himself.
Click to expand...
Does the preseason #1 team always win the national title? You act as if being ranked the #1 PG in high school means you have to be the #1 freshman PG in the country. That is such a rigid conclusion and really isn't logical considering all of the potential dynamics at play. And again, despite you continually dodging the question, TyTy Washington is the only P5 freshman PG that is even really in the discussion as having a better season.
 
  • Like
Reactions: TheMookieMonster, JoAllan and chuckiepoo
#98
#98
Volnuck said:
You just gave excuses not answers. I did read the material but as good as he is, I still ask my same questions, and can back them up with numbers (not excuses).
Click to expand...

You didn’t give any kind of “proof” disputing his previous rating whatsoever.

You merely give “your” opinion of 2 statistics…….that doesn’t make it fact. There are many factors which determine a good PG and my opinion (just as valuable as yours) free % is quite a bit down the list.

I also don’t need to make excuses, because the information provided PROVES my position.

You ONLY provided your opinion, while I provided facts.

YOU said he wasn’t deserving of that rating…….well I have shown the top PG’s……so like I said…… who is? Then back that up with some fact…..not opinion.
 
  • Like
Reactions: chuckiepoo
#99
#99
cncchris33 said:
Does the preseason #1 team always win the national title? You act as if being ranked the #1 PG in high school means you have to be the #1 freshman PG in the country. That is such a rigid conclusion and really isn't logical considering all of the potential dynamics at play. And again, despite you continually dodging the question, TyTy Washington is the only P5 freshman PG that is even really in the discussion as having a better season.
Click to expand...
I love anyone who wears orange, but if they have weak points that can they can improve on, I see no problem with saying it. I realize this is just an opinion about a sports star and that all I am giving is an opinion. You seem to think your opinion is “The Only Truth” , like many folks on social media. If your opinion meant that much, you would be writing for a USA Today instead of a message board.
 
#100
#100
Volnuck said:
I love anyone who wears orange, but if they have weak points that can they can improve on, I see no problem with saying it. I realize this is just an opinion about a sports star and that all I am giving is an opinion. You seem to think your opinion is “The Only Truth” , like many folks on social media. If your opinion meant that much, you would be writing for a USA Today instead of a message board.
Click to expand...
So, you still ignored the question and instead turned to taking pot shots at me because I have the audacity to challenge you to defend your opinion on a messageboard. But sure, I'm the one who thinks my opinion is "The Only Truth". At least I defended it with logic. Take care, bro. Kennedy sends you his best. ✌️
 
  • Like
Reactions: chuckiepoo and JoAllan
New posts
You must log in or register to reply here.

VN Store



Back
Top