Donte Stallworth Interview

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burntorangeVOLffle said:
Sorry I should have been more clear. I understood what you were saying. I was just pointing out that in his case it wasn't just a "buzz phrase".

The following line was directed more towards others who simply see "DUI" and "killed a person" without looking at any of the circumstances surrounding the case.
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No hard feelings. For the record, I agree with what you said in regard to Stallworth himself. I was actually watching some documentary and news programs where this phrases was used and you could smell the BS right through the TV screen. So think of it as a matter of timing. It has becoming meaningless without relevant consequences. Clearly, this doesn't apply to Donte'.
 
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iluvsmesumdooley said:
Amen! Treating this like an accident is asinine.
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Ignored is the fact he self-reported when he could have run off and no one been the wiser. I don't recall it all now, but I think he had to endure consequences. But there always the holy of holies people who want someone to receive no respite if they so much as sneeze and fart at once. They must forever, even post death be humiliated for the act. Maybe such folks should sit down and discuss criminal behavior within the context of what was done to the Native American, and even persists today in certain niches in Arizona, California, and New Mexico to mention a few.

What the man did was stupid. I assume he had to make some compensatory submission. Ever been t-boned by some redhead wrench who was obviously either drunk or high as an X-15? And the cops on finding she was the daughter of some moneyed casino owner and fawned all over her while telling you to go home or get a ticket for reckless driving? No? Point? Donte' may have gotten off far better than most of us would've but even he didn't get the specialized treatment Miss Rich Beetch did. And there are a lot of incidents like this that occur, mostly in small towns, resort towns, hamlet towns, and other privileged locations. So if you want to rant about Donte' rant also about the others who sometimes hit and run but cops don't go after them because know who they are. While you're just (whatever they want to call you).

I'd like to know what compensation and/or jail time he got because I don't recall much other than he hit and killed someone. Might have gotten less time than normal because he stopped and called it in, instead of running off.
 
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What is lost in this thread is that the pedestrian Stallworth struck (Mario Reyes) would likely still be dead even if Stallworth had been sober because Reyes was not at a cross walk when he tried to make it across a busy causeway near the beach. This was a tragedy but there wasn't necessarily anything wrong with how he was driving (he wasn't determined to have been speeding by the police investigation) or anything he could have done to have avoided hitting Reyes. Of course that is relevant to his sentencing.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
What is lost in this thread is that the pedestrian Stallworth struck (Mario Reyes) would likely still be dead even if Stallworth had been sober because Reyes was not at a cross walk when he tried to make it across a busy causeway near the beach. This was a tragedy but there wasn't necessarily anything wrong with how he was driving (he wasn't determined to have been speeding by the police investigation) or anything he could have done to have avoided hitting Reyes. Of course that is relevant to his sentencing.
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Exactly, this is exactly why he shouldn't of been punished at all.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
What is lost in this thread is that the pedestrian Stallworth struck (Mario Reyes) would likely still be dead even if Stallworth had been sober because Reyes was not at a cross walk when he tried to make it across a busy causeway near the beach. This was a tragedy but there wasn't necessarily anything wrong with how he was driving (he wasn't determined to have been speeding by the police investigation) or anything he could have done to have avoided hitting Reyes. Of course that is relevant to his sentencing.
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Doesn't matter to the holy of holies here who have never done a wrong in their lives. Ahem. Uh-huh.
They live to condemn, so don't overwhelm, them with the act of presenting facts.
 
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jkleno said:
I know. That is Huff Post for you.
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Literally the only reason HuffPo would've conducted that interview. If he wasn't an NFL player who's a proponent of "gay rights" they wouldn't know his name, much less seek him out for an interview.
 
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Some of you need to watch the interview. Donte discusses the DUI and why he chose to plead guilty to a felony when everyone thought the state had no case against him. He talks about the family of the man he hit and what they said to his lawyer and how it influenced his decision (they'd conveyed they were appreciative of the fact that he stopped and called 911 and did what he could to help). He also talks about how he's trying to set up a program so players understand that it's not just your own life your risking but someone else's.

Also, wow. Had no idea Stallworth was so smart. Makes me proud he went to UT.
 
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UTProf said:
Some of you need to watch the interview. Donte discusses the DUI and why he chose to plead guilty to a felony when everyone thought the state had no case against him. He talks about the family of the man he hit and what they said to his lawyer and how it influenced his decision (they'd conveyed they were appreciative of the fact that he stopped and called 911 and did what he could to help). He also talks about how he's trying to set up a program so players understand that it's not just your own life your risking but someone else's.

Also, wow. Had no idea Stallworth was so smart. Makes me proud he went to UT.
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Facts do not matter here...They won't be able to read this from that high up in their ivory towers.
 
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KBVol said:
Literally the only reason HuffPo would've conducted that interview. If he wasn't an NFL player who's a proponent of "gay right" they wouldn't know his name, much less seek him out for an interview.
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You could say the same thing about why Phil Robertson was interviewed. He's a TV star and an advocate of redneck philosophy. Or Rush Limbaugh because he's an extreme conservative. Same thing with Newt Gingrich who's now trying to convey a more gentle and sensitive side but fooling nobody. My point is when you go judging and throwing judgments at others, too often the same applies to yourself.

America has always liked sensationalizing things. We did it with Bonnie and Clyde, Geronimo, Sgt. York, Norma Jeane Mortenson. Now it's Jerry Springer, Steve Wilkos, and Reality TV. Welcome to America, son! We're darn good when it comes to hypocrisy.
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BennisDrewer said:
Facts do not matter here...They won't be able to read this from that high up in their ivory towers.
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Sadly, some can't. While I understand getting mad at repeat offenders, I don't understand not forgiving someone who made a mistake that anyone could make (and yes, DUI is common so common most people don't even realize they'd technically fall under DUI laws even though they think they were careful enough to limit their intake and aren't what most of us would describe as impaired - just a matter of getting a caught - and don't think you're exempt if you don't drink or use any drugs/medication DUI laws in many states are broad enough to nail you without any evidence of alcohol/drugs in your system).

Also, I understand the lack of forgiveness even less when someone willingly pleads to a felony (and a felony is no joke to have on your record) when they could've just as easily plead to a misdemeanor, had the case dismissed, or been found not guilty.
 
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WoodsmanVol said:
You could say the same thing about why Phil Robertson was interviewed. He's a TV star and an advocate of redneck philosophy. Or Rush Limbaugh because he's an extreme conservative. Same thing with Newt Gingrich who's now trying to convey a more gentle and sensitive side but fooling nobody. My point is when you go judging and throwing judgments at others, too often the same applies to yourself.

America has always like sensationalizing things. We did it with Bonnie and Clyde, Geronimo, Sgt. York, Norma Jeane Mortenson. Now it's Jerry Springer, Steve Wilkos, and Reality TV. Welcome to America, son! We're darn good when it comes to hypocrisy.
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For the record: the current main image/story on huffpo is Peyton Manning. And the woman who interviewed Stallworth is actually conservative.
 
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UTProf said:
For the record: the current main image/story on huffpo is Peyton Manning. And the woman who interviewed Stallworth is actually conservative.
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Given my views on a wide range of issues, I'm conservative too. But like to think I'm not extreme but rather fair-minded.
 
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WoodsmanVol said:
You could say the same thing about why Phil Robertson was interviewed. He's a TV star and an advocate of redneck philosophy. Or Rush Limbaugh because he's an extreme conservative. Same thing with Newt Gingrich who's now trying to convey a more gentle and sensitive side but fooling nobody. My point is when you go judging and throwing judgments at others, too often the same applies to yourself.

America has always like sensationalizing things. We did it with Bonnie and Clyde, Geronimo, Sgt. York, Norma Jeane Mortenson. Now it's Jerry Springer, Steve Wilkos, and Reality TV. Welcome to America, son! We're darn good when it comes to hypocrisy.
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Great Post
 
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WoodsmanVol said:
You could say the same thing about why Phil Robertson was interviewed. He's a TV star and an advocate of redneck philosophy. Or Rush Limbaugh because he's an extreme conservative. Same thing with Newt Gingrich who's now trying to convey a more gentle and sensitive side but fooling nobody. My point is when you go judging and throwing judgments at others, too often the same applies to yourself.

America has always liked sensationalizing things. We did it with Bonnie and Clyde, Geronimo, Sgt. York, Norma Jeane Mortenson. Now it's Jerry Springer, Steve Wilkos, and Reality TV. Welcome to America, son! We're darn good when it comes to hypocrisy.
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Not sure why you felt the need to respond to my factual statement with some diatribe about how we're all hypocrites. I said nothing hypocritical, just made a statement based on my knowledge of The Huffington Post.

So Limbaugh's an "extreme" conservative huh? That's fine. Obama's an "extreme" Marxist liberal. Neither changes the fact that the Huffington Post is a liberal publication with an agenda to promote gay rights.... Stallworth was interviewed to help further the cause.

If you wanna find an example of a conservative publication using an athlete to help them promote their shared views then ok. Won't make you a hypocrite unless you try and say the lib publications you subscribe to don't the same thing.
 
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WoodsmanVol said:
Given my views on a wide range of issues, I'm conservative too. But like to think I'm not extreme but rather fair-minded.
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Woodsman I'm a liberal pragmatist (I want solutions that work for the majority of the people no matter where they come from). I'm definitely not the kind of liberal people around here often assume and some of my views would surprise people (I disagree with the side I fall on on more than one issue and sometimes side with conservative views). I'm not dogmatic except on a few issues but even then I'm willing to compromise because I recognize politics should always be about what can be done rather than some pie in the sky utopia we don't live in and consider many of my views changeable when/if the facts change.

FWIW, I've never considered you anything but fair-minded.
 
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UTProf said:
Because I just make sh!t up off the top of my head. LAWS you're crazy.
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Why did it matter that they had Peyton up on their site? He was the biggest sports story of the day? Does that somehow change their politics?

As far as the interviewer...

On 15 July 2011 Minkovski was interviewed for one hour by Brian Lamb on the C-SPAN Sunday evening Q&A show. She describes her political views as liberal.[7] In 2011 Forbes magazine named her one of the 30
 
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KBVol said:
Why did it matter that they had Peyton up on their site? He was the biggest sports story of the day? Does that somehow change their politics?

As far as the interviewer...

On 15 July 2011 Minkovski was interviewed for one hour by Brian Lamb on the C-SPAN Sunday evening Q&A show. She describes her political views as liberal.[7] In 2011 Forbes magazine named her one of the 30
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Because this has to do with Stallworth's interview. Lord have mercy don't be dense. Huffpo links and posts mostly articles written by others, everyone from the AP, Reuters, WaPo, and even conservative blogs/websites. On occasion they actually write something and it's not always liberal. They haven't been a mainly liberal website in years.

Do they post liberal blogs and articles? Yes. But they also post a whole lot more including articles with no slant whatsoever and ones whose only slant comes from a writer as well as conservative slanted ones.
 
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UTProf said:
Because this has to do with Stallworth's interview. Lord have mercy don't be dense. Huffpo links and posts mostly articles written by others, everyone from the AP, Reuters, WaPo, and even conservative blogs/websites. On occasion they actually write something and it's not always liberal. They haven't been a mainly liberal website in years.

Do they post liberal blogs and articles? Yes. But they also post a whole lot more including articles with no slant whatsoever and ones whose only slant comes from a writer as well as conservative slanted ones.
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Again. Sure.
 
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