Early look at next year's SEC (Subject to change)

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cncchris33 said:
Kentucky, unfortunately, will be fine. More often than not, having the most talent results in success, last year being the exception rather than the rule. Cal's "system" has worked more than it has failed. The lack of senior/junior leadership may haunt them come tournament time, but they should have enough horses to win the SEC, with Florida and Tennessee being the only threats standing in the way, and both have major question marks to be answered as well


IMO, Tennessee needs to lose fewer than four conference games to win the SEC outright.
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I agree, I do think KY will be fine. I don't think they are the best team in the nation.

The way McRae, Stokes, and Maymon went after Barton proves to me that this is a hungry team that is ready to take it to the next level. They knew that they had all the right piece except a good pg. I think this team will have great success this year and I do think with FL and KY subtraction along with TN addition of Barton, that they will be the team to beat. I see only one weakness and that is depth at post. Hopefully, our 4 guard lineup will be successful when Maymon and Stokes are not on the floor at the same time.
 
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johnnybravo said:
I agree, I do think KY will be fine. I don't think they are the best team in the nation.

The way McRae, Stokes, and Maymon went after Barton proves to me that this is a hungry team that is ready to take itto the next level. They knew that they had all the right piece except a good pg. I think this team will have great success this year and I do think with FL and KY subtraction along with TN addition of Barton, that they will be the team to beat. I see only one weakness and that is depth at post. Hopefully, our 4 guard lineup will be successful when Maymon and Stokes are not on the floor at the same time.
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I mostly agree, though I'm not ready to anoint Tennessee the odds-on favorite. To me, the biggest question mark is if Maymon will be effective going forward. If he returns near what he was two years ago, I like our chances much more. That may seem a little like stating the obvious, but if he's not, I think it's a bigger loss for us than Wiltjer for UK or Wilbiken for Florida.
 
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cncchris33 said:
I mostly agree, though I'm not ready to anoint Tennessee the odds-on favorite. To me, the biggest question mark is if Maymon will be effective going forward. If he returns near what he was two years ago, I like our chances much more. That may seem a little like stating the obvious, but if he's not, I think it's a bigger loss for us than Wiltjer for UK or Wilbiken for Florida.
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Well, all my bets are that Maymon is healthy and is close to the player we saw 2 years ago. If not, then I think TN will be in trouble. From what I've seen from Pops is that he will not see the floor come SEC time. Others will disagree, but I was not impressed. And we saw what a double team Stokes with a 4 guard line up looks like. Without Maymon, TN will 4th or 5th at best in the SEC and once again a bubble team, IMO.
 
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johnnybravo said:
Well, all my bets are that Maymon is healthy and is close to the player we saw 2 years ago. If not, then I think TN will be in trouble. From what I've seen from Pops is that he will not see the floor come SEC time. Others will disagree, but I was not impressed. And we saw what a double team Stokes with a 4 guard line up looks like. Without Maymon, TN will 4th or 5th at best in the SEC and once again a bubble team, IMO.
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One thing that no one has seemed to mention is that we don't have Kenny Hall or Skylar McBee, both player costed us turnovers, missed shots, and both players didn't bring much offensive or defensive game. I think we will do substantially better without having them in our lineup. I think our players are going to a lot better than last year too. Richardson and Moore are going to have breakout seasons, and Stokes will barely achieve what he did last year (if Maymon is healthy) and McRae will be a monster this year.
 
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johnnybravo said:
Well, all my bets are that Maymon is healthy and is close to the player we saw 2 years ago. If not, then I think TN will be in trouble. From what I've seen from Pops is that he will not see the floor come SEC time. Others will disagree, but I was not impressed. And we saw what a double team Stokes with a 4 guard line up looks like. Without Maymon, TN will 4th or 5th at best in the SEC and once again a bubble team, IMO.
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I agree.
 
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iKrager said:
One thing that no one has seemed to mention is that we don't have Kenny Hall or Skylar McBee, both player costed us turnovers, missed shots, and both players didn't bring much offensive or defensive game. I think we will do substantially better without having them in our lineup. I think our players are going to a lot better than last year too. Richardson and Moore are going to have breakout seasons, and Stokes will barely achieve what he did last year (if Maymon is healthy) and McRae will be a monster this year.
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I hate to say this, but I would LOVE to have Hall on this years team. I think that would help keep Stokes and Maymon on the floor at the same time. Right now, with no back up I think we see them playing together what 10 minutes a half?
 
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johnnybravo said:
I hate to say this, but I would LOVE to have Hall on this years team. I think that would help keep Stokes and Maymon on the floor at the same time. Right now, with no back up I think we see them playing together what 10 minutes a half?
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I'd say they switch between a 4-5 at 25-30 mpg, and depends how Maymon's feeling but from what I've heard he should be well enough to play those 25-30 mpg.
 
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iKrager said:
I'd say they switch between a 4-5 at 25-30 mpg, and depends how Maymon's feeling but from what I've heard he should be well enough to play those 25-30 mpg.
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Which means they'll only be on the floor together for about 10 minutes a half most likely.
 
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Dangerous player but dont think he will ever make it far too many on and off the court problems
 
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SJAVol32 said:
Looking more and more like a 3 team race. UK Florida and Us.
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I agree. Vandy, Bama and LSU were all expected to compete for a spot in the dance, but all 3 have been hit with big blows to their roster their roster this offseason. Not sure what Missouri is gonna do, seem to always underachieve under Haith (no surprise), and right now they're projected around the bubble iirc.

Will it be another bad year for the SEC, possibly just 3 tourney teams?
 
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I still expect Vandy, Bama, and LSU to all compete for tourney spots. Missouri, Ole Miss (depending on MH's status), and Arkansas could all be decent.
 
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GatorsGators said:
I still expect Vandy, Bama, and LSU to all compete for tourney spots. Missouri, Ole Miss (depending on MH's status), and Arkansas could all be decent.
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They very well could.

Vandy wasn't close last year, sure they're a year older, but lose arguable one of their better players. I expect them to be better, but I don't see them making the dance.

Bama barely made it last year, loses some good players, and don't add much. Grant has underachieved each year he's been there, they do that again and they won't be near the bubble.

LSU will definitely be better, but how much is the question. The loss of Mickey hurts them as they were counting on him, but still a talented class. They have the best chance of making the dance out of these 3.

You're higher on Ole Miss than most. I don't think you can replace what Holloway and Bucker brought to the table, I know they've got a decent replacement coming in, but I don't think he'll fill those shoes left behind.

Arkansas also lost alot, but they've definitely got some talent. Will this be the year that Anderson gets them to win a few games on the road? We will see.

At this point I would put the O/U at 4 for SEC teams making the dance.
 
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Vandy was playing a lot better towards the end of last season. They should have one of the better backcourts in the conference with Johnson, Parker, McClellan (the Tulsa transfer), Bright, and Fuller. Their frontcourt isn't great but should be a bit better with a year of experience and the addition of Damian Jones. I think they're a bubble team at least.

Bama should be about the same as last year imo. The only loss that should affect them this year is Lacey. Gueye was awful, and Pollard didn't contribute much last year (that loss hurts more due to his upside than his actual production). Releford is still one of the better scorers in the country, and Randolph and Obasohan were playing well towards the end of last season. Their frontcourt still won't be very good, but the two freshman should help. I expect them to be right on the bubble. If they can avoid the awful early-season losses, they should get in.

LSU has the talent to be a Top 25 team. I have no clue how good they'll be next season, but we'll see.

Missouri has talent as well. Their season depends on how well Wes Clark adjusts. If he's a solid starting PG from the get-go, they could be pretty good. Arkansas has a lot of frontcourt talent and should be decent because of it, but a few of their guards need to step up. I think both are a year away from contending for a tourney bid, but both should be decent.

I don't expect Ole Miss to compete for a tourney bid even if Henderson doesn't miss any time, but I don't expect them to be bad. Summers and White are solid backcourt pieces, and Jones (if healthy) should be able to rebound and defend decently. Judging from Saiz's performance for Spain in the U19 tournament, he'll contribute right away.

I'd probably bet the over there. It'll definitely be no more than 6 (and most likely no more than 5), but I don't think UK, UF, and UT will be the only three from the SEC in the big dance next year.
 
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Shaq Johnson from Aurburn was dissmissed from the team. He was a 4 star if I remember correctly.
 
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