Eight Million Dollars

#76
#76
Making a name for yourself is why he will stay.

But I think that DW will give him 100 million reasons to stay once the season is over.
 
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#77
If a school is going for those $10 million+ contract why not go 5 years for $50 million instead of 10 years for $100 million. Just revisit it every 5 years and go from there.
 
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#1fulmerite said:
For everyone thinking we are going to lose CJH, who do you think is going to buy out his contract?

For everyone wanting to pay Saban like money before we lose CJH, who is going to poney up $8 million to buy out his contract?

History is a great example to pay attention to. How many coaches have had an excellent first year or two then receive a major contract only to have it bought out. We can see it is about to happen with Jumbo and the Charlie Wise deal at Notre Dame, among others.
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$8 million is not a lot of money when your talking about schools with Billion dollar endowments. Just look at Auburn, they have paid over $30 million in buyouts in last 2 years. UT needs to make Heupel one of the top 5 paid coaches on the SEC. His salary is at 12th in the SEC at $5 million a year. His salary needs to be around $7-$8 a year after the season.
 
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TennesseeTarheel said:
8 mil is a rounding error in the NFL.

Now, I want to keep him, but an NFL job wouldn't be 24/7 365 chasing recruits.
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Just look at the most recent college coaches that tried to make the jump. Chip Kelly, Saban, Urban Myer, Spurrier, Matt Rhule, and soon to be Kliff Kingsburry wasn’t very successful and half them coaches run high tempo offense’s in college. NFL players will not like the high tempo snapping the ball every 15 seconds. NFL rosters are smaller than college rosters and will struggle to keep quality defensive players healthy.
 
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Southeastern VFL said:
If a school is going for those $10 million+ contract why not go 5 years for $50 million instead of 10 years for $100 million. Just revisit it every 5 years and go from there.
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If Heupel wins or even plays for a NC in his 2nd year, there would be no issue justifying a $10M-$11M/year salary and tacking on a giant buyout.
 
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VOLfrombama said:
Making a name for yourself is why he will stay.

But I think that DW will give him 100 million reasons to stay once the season is over.
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This is the thinking right here. This university can afford to give him an astronomical contract with a buyout so high that even Phil Knight wouldn’t even look this direction.
 
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TennesseeTarheel said:
8 mil is a rounding error in the NFL.

Now, I want to keep him, but an NFL job wouldn't be 24/7 365 chasing recruits.
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To me, a HC job in the NFL would be like working for a soulless big corporation compared to a HC job at UT which is more like a family business. I quit my corporate job 10 years ago to start my own business. Working as hard as ever at 67 and would never go back. This makes me hope Heupel sees it sorta that way too. But as other posters have said, if he sees winning a SB as his personal Mt. Everest then the NFL may lure him yet. But IMHO it would be a shocker if he leaves TN without winning a couple of nattys.
 
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#91
Watching the post game interviews on field this season, especially the ones at Neyland against FL, ALA and KY, that seems to be genuine happiness on his face. He has a team that legitimately could contend for a NC in year two after losing 25+ players as he came on the scene and the majority of current players are not kids he recruited. Not even HH. He has an administration and a fan base that is 100% behind him. He has the national media all talking about the work he has done and calling us relevant again and how good it is for college football. The ceiling here for him is not even in sight yet.

He is on a mission to win conference and national championship and he will do that at TN faster than he would anywhere else in the country that is currently searching for a new coach.

Where could / would he go that would be a step up from UT? Forget the money…name a better program that he would choose over TN.
 
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VOLanooga said:
Watching the post game interviews on field this season, especially the ones at Neyland against FL, ALA and KY, that seems to be genuine happiness on his face. He has a team that legitimately could contend for a NC in year two after losing 25+ players as he came on the scene and the majority of current players are not kids he recruited. Not even HH. He has an administration and a fan base that is 100% behind him. He has the national media all talking about the work he has done and calling us relevant again and how good it is for college football. The ceiling here for him is not even in sight yet.

He is on a mission to win conference and national championship and he will do that at TN faster than he would anywhere else in the country that is currently searching for a new coach.

Where could / would he go that would be a step up from UT? Forget the money…name a better program that he would choose over TN.
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These last two paragraphs were posted by about 10 different people on a cold January night in 2010. I doubt Heupel is leaving but trying to predict what these guys will do impossible.
 
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#94
1) Heupel has no NFL experience of any significance to speak of.
2) NFL historically doesn’t pay as much for first time NFL head coaches. Matt Ruhle was an exception.
3) Heupel family is settled here now. Children are middle-high school age. Moving at that time is a family decision
4) Boyd proved with Barnes he’ll keep his coaches if he wants to.

Heupel may move 8-10 yrs from now but not until his children are grown.
 
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Southeastern VFL said:
If a school is going for those $10 million+ contract why not go 5 years for $50 million instead of 10 years for $100 million. Just revisit it every 5 years and go from there.
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It’s not just the Annual salary but the buyout clause. At 5/50 million, the most the coach could get if fired is probably $40M. At 10/100 he might negotiate 80 or 90 like Jumbo.
 
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#1fulmerite said:
For everyone thinking we are going to lose CJH, who do you think is going to buy out his contract?

For everyone wanting to pay Saban like money before we lose CJH, who is going to poney up $8 million to buy out his contract?

History is a great example to pay attention to. How many coaches have had an excellent first year or two then receive a major contract only to have it bought out. We can see it is about to happen with Jumbo and the Charlie Wise deal at Notre Dame, among others.
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Double the salary of everyone on the coaching staff sounds about right.
 
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wmcovol said:
1) Heupel has no NFL experience of any significance to speak of.
2) NFL historically doesn’t pay as much for first time NFL head coaches. Matt Ruhle was an exception.
3) Heupel family is settled here now. Children are middle-high school age. Moving at that time is a family decision
4) Boyd proved with Barnes he’ll keep his coaches if he wants to.

Heupel may move 8-10 yrs from now but not until his children are grown.
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Agree with all of this. I also think we'll see Heupel extended with a HUGE raise (and buyout) later this month or early December to send a message before ESD.
 
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DD4ME said:
If I was an AD I would have the largest goal achievement incentives ever seen. .

Top 5 recruiting class - 1 million
SEC title game appearance - 1 million
SEC title - 3 million
Playoff Appearance - 4 million
National Championship - 6 million.

If you won it all you could land 15 million. Otherwise pay em a normal higher level salary like 7 million and don't have huge buyouts. IMO paying them this way keeps them focused.

Add an automatic increase for the payouts for repeats. Example bump payout totals 25% for repeats. 50% for three peats etc.

So a repeat SEC title would net the guy 5 mill instead of 4 for the prior year. 1.25 for appearance 3.75 for win.
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Not sure what business you're in DD, but are you hiring?
 
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VOLtaism said:
LSU paid Ogre 17 million and turned around and gave Kelly 100 million 10 year contract with a 90 million guaranteed. 8 million is not a large sum now days.
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Dumbest business deal ever and I don’t care what Kelly does .
 
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