Electric Vehicles

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#276
LouderVol said:
Same reason big oil hasnt diversified much. If they were smart they would be the ones driving this. They have capital to finding the next source and system to sell.

People dont want to change. They want things to get better but they dont want the change that comes with it.
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I'm also of the mind that businesses know "if you build it, they will come." I'm not saying they should move away from gas and diesel pumps, but adding additional options does nothing but increase their profits. The trend towards EVs becoming more commonplace is undeniable.

First chain station like Loves or Pilot that puts in rapid charging EV stations will make serious bank. Bet on it.
 
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Picked a bad time to build a redneck Lexus. Filling up with Premium and getting 11ish MPG is tough. Spending $600-700 a month on gas is no bueno.
 
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VolStrom said:
I've been looking to buy a new battery, apparently they have abandoned the prorated warranty in favor of the 1,2,3 year full replacement.
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Batteries prices have gone crazy. Recently replaced one on the lawnmower $59.99. Last summer I bought the same battery for another mower for $29.99
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
Imma go lay a couple 30 round mags in the back floor board out of spite right now.

A four door pickup truck is the most useful and versatile vehicle ever created.
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As long as you dont complain about the rising costs....

I would say the EVs most people are going to buy are price competitive with your 70k truck.
 
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LouderVol said:
As long as you dont complain about the rising costs....

I would say the EVs most people are going to buy are price competitive with your 70k truck.
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So I can complain about rising costs as well as drive a behemoth vehicle and it’s silly to claim otherwise. While I realize that my choice of transportation will cost me more in fuel to drive it I can also understand the concept that fuel costs affect EVERYTHING I purchase.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
I have zero use for a minivan. Plus tell me how I can get 20 sheets of plywood in the back of a minivan while still carrying around four adults.

And you COULD put all the kids in the bed of the truck they just wouldn’t be comfortable and you might get a ticket.
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For anyone who regularly needs to carry around 20 sheets of plywood and 4 adults then a minivan isn’t your vehicle. Same if you haul a large boat or trailer. For the other 99% of the population the minivan is more useful, practical, and fuel efficient. A Toyota mv has a 3500 lb towing capacity so a utility trailer will still allow you to haul most anything the average person uses. Fold down or remove rear seats if you aren’t hauling a bunch of folks and you can cram a ton of stuff in the back. JMO
 
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OHvol40 said:
Long term, though, I can see this being a nudge to alternatives both on the basis of cost and in an attempt to be less reliant on outside parties. It makes too much sense not to move that way.
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The US was energy independent prior to Biden's inauguration. If that was a goal, why did the Democrats undo that almost immediately once they got the White House back?

The major issue lost in all of this is the electricity to charge all of these cars and vehicles has to be created somewhere. Most estimates are the US will need an additional 30-100% of electricity production and the corresponding infrastructure to transmit power to replace fossil fueled vehicles.

Where are plans to build all these new power plants and transmission lines? What's a realistic time frame to build all this that takes into account the years of permitting, court actions and environmental studies it takes to build anything of substance in this country now?
 
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walkenvol said:
For anyone who regularly needs to carry around 20 sheets of plywood and 4 adults then a minivan isn’t your vehicle. Same if you haul a large boat or trailer. For the other 99% of the population the minivan is more useful, practical, and fuel efficient. A Toyota mv has a 3500 lb towing capacity so a utility trailer will still allow you to haul most anything the average person uses. Fold down or remove rear seats if you aren’t hauling a bunch of folks and you can cram a ton of stuff in the back. JMO
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My post was tongue in cheek. More on point I’d say we Americans prefer more useful vehicles across the board than the run of the mill midsize four door sedan. The minivan and truck are both tuned to specific customers. I don’t have kids so I have zero use for a minivan.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
My post was tongue in cheek. More on point I’d say we Americans prefer more useful vehicles across the board than the run of the mill midsize four door sedan. The minivan and truck are both tuned to specific customers. I don’t have kids so I have zero use for a minivan.
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I see a lot of elderly driving minivans. I assume it’s due to the ease of getting in & out with the lower platform allowed by being front wheel drive as opposed to stepping up into trucks / SUV’s or squatting down into cars. The older I get the more I think about these types of things
 
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walkenvol said:
I see a lot of elderly driving minivans. I assume it’s due to the ease of getting in & out with the lower platform allowed by being front wheel drive as opposed to stepping up into trucks / SUV’s or squatting down into cars. The older I get the more I think about these types of things
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They are a goto vehicle for people with disabilities due to the mods you can make to accept things like wheelchairs. I don’t see another vehicle having that flexibility.
 
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dobre_shunka said:
The US was energy independent prior to Biden's inauguration. If that was a goal, why did the Democrats undo that almost immediately once they got the White House back?

The major issue lost in all of this is the electricity to charge all of these cars and vehicles has to be created somewhere. Most estimates are the US will need an additional 30-100% of electricity production and the corresponding infrastructure to transmit power to replace fossil fueled vehicles.

Where are plans to build all these new power plants and transmission lines? What's a realistic time frame to build all this that takes into account the years of permitting, court actions and environmental studies it takes to build anything of substance in this country now?
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The US imported 7.9 million barrels of oil per day in 2020. What does energy independence mean to you?

I think everyone understands that energy to power electric cars has to come from somewhere and that the infrastructure for a majority EV US won’t happen overnight. I pointed out that the volatility in the oil market and recently skyrocketing prices are a great motivation to figure out how to be energy independent with a shift toward alternative sources that are both sustainable and cleaner while reducing our reliance on a global oil market largely controlled by OPEC.
 
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hog88 said:
Yes but he has the choice, it's the fact our government is trying to take choice away is what has people riled up.
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So all I have seen referenced is that the government wants some percentage of EV sold by 2026. I dont see how they can force people to buy them, so maybe what meant is they want manufacturers to make a certain percentage of EV.

That doesnt take choice away. Unless they are banning ICE vehicles or setting some cap on total production.
 
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OHvol40 said:
The US imported 7.9 million barrels of oil per day in 2020. What does energy independence mean to you?

I think everyone understands that energy to power electric cars has to come from somewhere and that the infrastructure for a majority EV US won’t happen overnight. I pointed out that the volatility in the oil market and recently skyrocketing prices are a great motivation to figure out how to be energy independent with a shift toward alternative sources that are both sustainable and cleaner while reducing our reliance on a global oil market largely controlled by OPEC.
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The US was a NET exporter of oil. That is what energy independence means.
 
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Grand Vol said:
I'm also of the mind that businesses know "if you build it, they will come." I'm not saying they should move away from gas and diesel pumps, but adding additional options does nothing but increase their profits. The trend towards EVs becoming more commonplace is undeniable.

First chain station like Loves or Pilot that puts in rapid charging EV stations will make serious bank. Bet on it.
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Some resturants are doing it. I guess it's an enticement to come in and have some steak and taters while your car charges. Seems like hotels would have them too.
 
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LouderVol said:
How many people actually need a truck? Especially for a daily driver? You hauling your boat to work everyday?

I get having a truck, but most people dont have a use to justify needing a truck.

Even hog with his business you really think he is hauling equipment in his truck? Rolling out to jobsites on the side of Everest for a daily debrief? Or does he use it to get to the office 75% of the time?
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Somebody has a case of the socialist judge. Castro would be proud.
 
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