‘23 EN TE Emmanuel Okoye (Tennessee commit)

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1. Not sure why some morons are talking about rodney garner in this thread, because it's been put out there this morning that we are recruiting Okoye at TE. It has also been put out there that Okoye is a 23' kid that can reclassify and is likely to be enrolling at some school this summer.

So with this bit of new information, why we are recruiting him actually makes a lot more sense. Being able to immediately come in this year and start learning how to play TE is huge. If he was a 24' kid, it just didn't make any sense to me with who we had on the board already that this kid would be ahead of guys like Reddell, Caleb Odom, Dillon Hipp, Echols, and Leblanc and we had Echols already in the boat. Seeing as Okoye is actually going to be a 23' kid that enrolls into college this summer is a totally different ballgame.

2. Given our lack of depth at TE, having a body with this much upside to come in this summer is a big deal. Also i would like to point out that i saw this guy as a TE over a DE and our coaches seem to agree.

3. What is the point of a recruiting message board if we are not here to discuss, question, project, and guess which recruits we prefer, what positions we think they will end up, what our team needs are, and things of this nature.

Apparently even expressing the idea of not taking a big project player no matter how much potential he has in the 24' class and questioning the reasoning of a project player in the 24' class at both TE and DE that on the surface we are recruiting are much better players as of right now, not 2-3 years from now, is crazy talk. What is funny is none of us even know what the coaches board is, who the coaches actually want, which offers are actually committable, and for what positions we are offering at, whether or not this is just an offer to confuse and keep UGA and BAMA busy etc...

I thought it was pretty obvious from my first couple posts that taking this guy over Reddell, Odom, Leblanc was not something i would do because i think this guy is 2-3 years away from being a good SEC level player and those guys are all SEC level players day 1 and would be ready to play in year 1. Reddell and Odom are freakishly athletic as well, but far more skilled, and polished and ready to play at the college level. Apparently this line of thinking is just blasphemous and how dare you question our staff, and coach Huepel you freaking charlatan chandler bing.
 
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chandler bing said:
We aren't at a point program wise where we should be taking players that are 2 to 3 year projects just because they have immense potential. We are short on bodies at TE as it is. We need guys who can contribute quickly and provide good depth. Just 2 years ago we had 68 scholarship players. Yes Huepel has done a fantastic job to rebuild the program so quickly, but we are still a ways depth wise compared to UGA, BAMA, tOSU etc... We can't afford to suffer a couple injuries at TE for example and have this guy in the 2 deep next year. We need guys who can play soon still.

Huepel has us closing that gap faster than any of us had thought possible, but we aren't at a point where you can take on too many projects. When we are 3 deep at almost every position, and playing time is at a minimum, than you start taking a couple of projects with huge upside that are ok sitting and learning the game for 2-3 years before they contribute. We need guys ready to play and be in the 2 deep right now at TE and DE.
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This staff inherited a team full of projects and had them competing for a championship in year two. I think I'll trust their opinion on the matter.
 
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chandler bing said:
1. Not sure why some morons are talking about rodney garner in this thread, because it's been put out there this morning that we are recruiting Okoye at TE. It has also been put out there that Okoye is a 23' kid that can reclassify and is likely to be enrolling at some school this summer.

So with this bit of new information, why we are recruiting him actually makes a lot more sense. Being able to immediately come in this year and start learning how to play TE is huge. If he was a 24' kid, it just didn't make any sense to me with who we had on the board already that this kid would be ahead of guys like Reddell, Caleb Odom, Dillon Hipp, Echols, and Leblanc and we had Echols already in the boat. Seeing as Okoye is actually going to be a 23' kid that enrolls into college this summer is a totally different ballgame.

2. Given our lack of depth at TE, having a body with this much upside to come in this summer is a big deal. Also i would like to point out that i saw this guy as a TE over a DE and our coaches seem to agree.

3. What is the point of a recruiting message board if we are not here to discuss, question, project, and guess which recruits we prefer, what positions we think they will end up, what our team needs are, and things of this nature.

Apparently even expressing the idea of not taking a big project player no matter how much potential he has in the 24' class and questioning the reasoning of a project player in the 24' class at both TE and DE that on the surface we are recruiting are much better players as of right now, not 2-3 years from now, is crazy talk. What is funny is none of us even know what the coaches board is, who the coaches actually want, which offers are actually committable, and for what positions we are offering at, whether or not this is just an offer to confuse and keep UGA and BAMA busy etc...

I thought it was pretty obvious from my first couple posts that taking this guy over Reddell, Odom, Leblanc was not something i would do because i think this guy is 2-3 years away from being a good SEC level player and those guys are all SEC level players day 1 and would be ready to play in year 1. Reddell and Odom are freakishly athletic as well, but far more skilled, and polished and ready to play at the college level. Apparently this line of thinking is just blasphemous and how dare you question our staff, and coach Huepel you freaking charlatan chandler bing.
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You claimed definitive statements about the state of the program. i.e. "The program is not in a place to..."

So, you claimed your opinion as fact and people basically replied by telling you whose opinion they would trust more. Sounds like you got more info and changed your opinion to agree with the ones we decided to trust in the first place. So, you ended up where we were, and we didn't have to write several dissertations in the process. Win/win.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
You claimed definitive statements about the state of the program. i.e. "The program is not in a place to..."

So, you claimed your opinion as fact and people basically replied by telling you whose opinion they would trust more. Sounds like you got more info and changed your opinion to agree with the ones we decided to trust in the first place. So, you ended up where we were, and we didn't have to write several dissertations in the process. Win/win.
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The program is not in a place depth wise at the TE position IMO, to take a project player with a lot of potential over guys like Reddell, Odom, Leblanc and Hipp. I would 100 out of 100x take one of those guys over Okoye because he is so raw compared to them. Okoye being able to enroll this summer and count against the 23' class and getting on campus a year earlier, totally changes the situation. He is absolutely a take if you can get him in the 23 class and get him on the roster for this season. That now gives us another talented guy at a position group in need, and he is in school a year ahead, and getting a jump start on his development. 2 - 3 years from this summer is quite different than next summer.
 
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chandler bing said:
The program is not in a place depth wise at the TE position IMO, to take a project player with a lot of potential over guys like Reddell, Odom, Leblanc and Hipp. I would 100 out of 100x take one of those guys over Okoye. Okoye being able to enroll this summer and count against the 23' class and getting on campus a year earlier, totally changes the situation. He is absolutely a take if you can get him in the 23 class and get him on the roster for this season.
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This is a recruiting forum where opinions are shared. You shared yours.

Good on you.

Have a good night.
 
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Chandler Bing is writing too damn much.
Not going to read all that🙄..😎.

With that said I still want Reddell, or Odom way more. Those kids have football instincts and great athleticism with it.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
You claimed definitive statements about the state of the program. i.e. "The program is not in a place to..."

So, you claimed your opinion as fact and people basically replied by telling you whose opinion they would trust more. Sounds like you got more info and changed your opinion to agree with the ones we decided to trust in the first place. So, you ended up where we were, and we didn't have to write several dissertations in the process. Win/win.
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Have you listened to a Huepel press conference this spring? What has he and the other coaches talked about repeatedly? Having more depth compared to the past couple years. How much more competition we finally have. How we are closing the gap and have come a long ways from 2 years ago, but still not where we need to be depth wise but he likes what they have accomplished so far. Iron sharpens iron, competition is better at many position groups has increased.

TE depth has been an obvious need, the fact that the staff begged Jacob Warren to come back for his 6th year. We took in transfers Mccallan Castles, Hunter Salmon. Huepel, Hazle and Alec Abeln have been putting a lot of time into trying to get Frosh Ethan Davis ready for a lot of playing time which is again not an ideal situation.

This is stuff coming from the coaches, journalists that cover UT football, it's not even just my individual opinion. It is obvious the program is not in a place to afford to miss at the TE position. We run a lot of 2 TE sets or 1 TE and an H-back. It's hardly definitive statement and opinion of mine when our own coaches have said that our depth is not where they want it to be yet but they are pleased with how much better it is compared to 2 years ago.
 
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chandler bing said:
Have you listened to a Huepel press conference this spring? What has he and the other coaches talked about repeatedly? Having more depth compared to the past couple years. How much more competition we finally have. How we are closing the gap and have come a long ways from 2 years ago, but still not where we need to be depth wise but he likes what they have accomplished so far. Iron sharpens iron, competition is better at many position groups has increased.

TE depth has been an obvious need, the fact that the staff begged Jacob Warren to come back for his 6th year. We took in transfers Mccallan Castles, Hunter Salmon. Huepel, Hazle and Alec Abeln have been putting a lot of time into trying to get Frosh Ethan Davis ready for a lot of playing time which is again not an ideal situation.

This is stuff coming from the coaches, journalists that cover UT football, it's not even just my individual opinion. It is obvious the program is not in a place to afford to miss at the TE position. We run a lot of 2 TE sets or 1 TE and an H-back. It's hardly definitive statement and opinion of mine when our own coaches have said that our depth is not where they want it to be yet but they are pleased with how much better it is compared to 2 years ago.
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Wow. You really seem to like the sound of your own voice.
 
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chandler bing said:
Have you listened to a Huepel press conference this spring? What has he and the other coaches talked about repeatedly? Having more depth compared to the past couple years. How much more competition we finally have. How we are closing the gap and have come a long ways from 2 years ago, but still not where we need to be depth wise but he likes what they have accomplished so far. Iron sharpens iron, competition is better at many position groups has increased.

TE depth has been an obvious need, the fact that the staff begged Jacob Warren to come back for his 6th year. We took in transfers Mccallan Castles, Hunter Salmon. Huepel, Hazle and Alec Abeln have been putting a lot of time into trying to get Frosh Ethan Davis ready for a lot of playing time which is again not an ideal situation.

This is stuff coming from the coaches, journalists that cover UT football, it's not even just my individual opinion. It is obvious the program is not in a place to afford to miss at the TE position. We run a lot of 2 TE sets or 1 TE and an H-back. It's hardly definitive statement and opinion of mine when our own coaches have said that our depth is not where they want it to be yet but they are pleased with how much better it is compared to 2 years ago.
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Let me get this straight, my answer was "I'll trust the staff."

You write another dissertation basically asking if I trust the staff.
 
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chandler bing said:
Have you listened to a Huepel press conference this spring? What has he and the other coaches talked about repeatedly? Having more depth compared to the past couple years. How much more competition we finally have. How we are closing the gap and have come a long ways from 2 years ago, but still not where we need to be depth wise but he likes what they have accomplished so far. Iron sharpens iron, competition is better at many position groups has increased.

TE depth has been an obvious need, the fact that the staff begged Jacob Warren to come back for his 6th year. We took in transfers Mccallan Castles, Hunter Salmon. Huepel, Hazle and Alec Abeln have been putting a lot of time into trying to get Frosh Ethan Davis ready for a lot of playing time which is again not an ideal situation.

This is stuff coming from the coaches, journalists that cover UT football, it's not even just my individual opinion. It is obvious the program is not in a place to afford to miss at the TE position. We run a lot of 2 TE sets or 1 TE and an H-back. It's hardly definitive statement and opinion of mine when our own coaches have said that our depth is not where they want it to be yet but they are pleased with how much better it is compared to 2 years ago.
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This will be my last reply to you on this.

You didn't say that we are in a place that doesn't need competition. You basically said that we're in a place that we have to have first year starters (no talented projects). That's ridiculous.

My response was that the staff has already proven what they can do with roster problems, and I trust them. Basically, if they want him and got him, I'm very happy and won't complain. I definitely won't go into one of our recruit's threads and trash the idea of him coming here.

You got a bit more info and got on board. That's all good.

Then you kept the posts rolling asking us for vindication. Just because you finally got on board with us, now you're spamming us with some odd need for our praise, it seems. It reads like you need us to fawn about how smart you are.

Well, you aren't.

You basically just came in:

Grumble, grumble...

Morons...

Grumble...

Oh, I see...

Look at me. Look at me. Look at me.

It's not a recipe for us to adore you.
 
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To the group:

We have eight tight ends on the roster, three of which are RS Srs, one RS Jr, and two RS Sophs. We'll be able to field a team if Okoye doesn't push for playing time this year, or even next.

Think about this, this kid has been playing football for 1.5 years, and is rated a 4 star with offers from GA, Ole Miss, Cal, Nebraska... Also, he's apparently a freak athlete.

If we land him, no matter the class he reports in, I suspect it'll be a win for the program. I don't think the program is in such a place that we can only afford to target first year starters. I like that our staff finds talent. I am excited for the future if the staff is going for players with ultra high ceilings.
 
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chandler bing said:
1. Not sure why some morons are talking about rodney garner in this thread, because it's been put out there this morning that we are recruiting Okoye at TE. It has also been put out there that Okoye is a 23' kid that can reclassify and is likely to be enrolling at some school this summer.

So with this bit of new information, why we are recruiting him actually makes a lot more sense. Being able to immediately come in this year and start learning how to play TE is huge. If he was a 24' kid, it just didn't make any sense to me with who we had on the board already that this kid would be ahead of guys like Reddell, Caleb Odom, Dillon Hipp, Echols, and Leblanc and we had Echols already in the boat. Seeing as Okoye is actually going to be a 23' kid that enrolls into college this summer is a totally different ballgame.

2. Given our lack of depth at TE, having a body with this much upside to come in this summer is a big deal. Also i would like to point out that i saw this guy as a TE over a DE and our coaches seem to agree.

3. What is the point of a recruiting message board if we are not here to discuss, question, project, and guess which recruits we prefer, what positions we think they will end up, what our team needs are, and things of this nature.

Apparently even expressing the idea of not taking a big project player no matter how much potential he has in the 24' class and questioning the reasoning of a project player in the 24' class at both TE and DE that on the surface we are recruiting are much better players as of right now, not 2-3 years from now, is crazy talk. What is funny is none of us even know what the coaches board is, who the coaches actually want, which offers are actually committable, and for what positions we are offering at, whether or not this is just an offer to confuse and keep UGA and BAMA busy etc...

I thought it was pretty obvious from my first couple posts that taking this guy over Reddell, Odom, Leblanc was not something i would do because i think this guy is 2-3 years away from being a good SEC level player and those guys are all SEC level players day 1 and would be ready to play in year 1. Reddell and Odom are freakishly athletic as well, but far more skilled, and polished and ready to play at the college level. Apparently this line of thinking is just blasphemous and how dare you question our staff, and coach Huepel you freaking charlatan chandler bing.
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That’s a tall TE.
 
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vol_in_ga said:
Thought he was an edge?

Also doubt a guy that’s graduating early and not played a ton of football would be of any use this fall. Likely redshirting and trying to get ahead of the 24 EEs to close the knowledge gap before spring ball.
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If he ends up at TE, then this is the ideal time for him to sit, train and develop while 3 TE’s man the position. Then his name is up there for a big role next season.
 
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chandler bing said:
1. Not sure why some morons are talking about rodney garner in this thread, because it's been put out there this morning that we are recruiting Okoye at TE. It has also been put out there that Okoye is a 23' kid that can reclassify and is likely to be enrolling at some school this summer.

So with this bit of new information, why we are recruiting him actually makes a lot more sense. Being able to immediately come in this year and start learning how to play TE is huge. If he was a 24' kid, it just didn't make any sense to me with who we had on the board already that this kid would be ahead of guys like Reddell, Caleb Odom, Dillon Hipp, Echols, and Leblanc and we had Echols already in the boat. Seeing as Okoye is actually going to be a 23' kid that enrolls into college this summer is a totally different ballgame.

2. Given our lack of depth at TE, having a body with this much upside to come in this summer is a big deal. Also i would like to point out that i saw this guy as a TE over a DE and our coaches seem to agree.

3. What is the point of a recruiting message board if we are not here to discuss, question, project, and guess which recruits we prefer, what positions we think they will end up, what our team needs are, and things of this nature.

Apparently even expressing the idea of not taking a big project player no matter how much potential he has in the 24' class and questioning the reasoning of a project player in the 24' class at both TE and DE that on the surface we are recruiting are much better players as of right now, not 2-3 years from now, is crazy talk. What is funny is none of us even know what the coaches board is, who the coaches actually want, which offers are actually committable, and for what positions we are offering at, whether or not this is just an offer to confuse and keep UGA and BAMA busy etc...

I thought it was pretty obvious from my first couple posts that taking this guy over Reddell, Odom, Leblanc was not something i would do because i think this guy is 2-3 years away from being a good SEC level player and those guys are all SEC level players day 1 and would be ready to play in year 1. Reddell and Odom are freakishly athletic as well, but far more skilled, and polished and ready to play at the college level. Apparently this line of thinking is just blasphemous and how dare you question our staff, and coach Huepel you freaking charlatan chandler bing.
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Is there a non-intentional reason you’re misspelling Heupel?
 
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