Erik Ainge-Heisman Rank-CBS.Sportsline

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#126
Hey Hate, If you don't use stats then alot other defensive players should have won the heisman. Why was Woodson the only defensive to ever win it?
 
#127
#127
SWS22 said:
Hey Hate, If you don't use stats then alot other defensive players should have won the heisman. Why was Woodson the only defensive to ever win it?
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I agree that there are some other defensive players that should have won. However, that's no arguement against Woodson.
 
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#128
hatvol96 said:
I agree that there are some other defensive players that should have won. However, that's no arguement against Woodson.
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Alot of people have never liked Manning and I think that hurt his chances in the heisman that year.
 
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#129
To those who bought up the other guys compared to Woodson, if you are going to go solely on offensive and punt return stats, there were guys better than all the guys you have bought up. Woodson far outshined those guys on defense.
 
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#130
Back to Ainge, remember the original topic, I beleive he really could turn Pro after this year. I'm not saying anything about success or if he is ready because since when has that mattered to the NFL. They tend to draft on potential and EA is showing what he is capable of doing. Who wouldn't want a 6'6" QB with a gun, who else is out there besides Quinn with NFL size? Take the money and run. Fortunately we have Crompton that looks like he is going to be a good one also. :hi:
 
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#131
OrangePappy said:
Back to Ainge, remember the original topic, I beleive he really could turn Pro after this year. I'm not saying anything about success or if he is ready because since when has that mattered to the NFL. They tend to draft on potential and EA is showing what he is capable of doing. Who wouldn't want a 6'6" QB with a gun, who else is out there besides Quinn with NFL size? Take the money and run. Fortunately we have Crompton that looks like he is going to be a good one also. :hi:
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Before his injury, Brian Brohm, IMO, was the best NFL QB talent in college football ... and it wasn't close.

Will HE come out early? I doubt it.

Troy Smith will get a 1st round pick, most likely, regardless of his size.

Before Drew Stanton's mediocre 1st half, he was a possible 1st rounder.

Trent Edwards, believe it or not, could be a 3rd rounder or sooner.

Kevin Kolb might go early. Jordan Palmer, too. Jeff Rowe has early round size and the resume.

The class isn't very top heavy, but there are a lot of other undersized guys that could get picked early because of their stats. Chris Leak is a perfect example.

Ainge, if he wants a long NFL career more than the immediate guaranteed money, will wait until he graduates.
 
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VolinArizona said:
Before his injury, Brian Brohm, IMO, was the best NFL QB talent in college football ... and it wasn't close.

Will HE come out early? I doubt it.

Troy Smith will get a 1st round pick, most likely, regardless of his size.

Before Drew Stanton's mediocre 1st half, he was a possible 1st rounder.

Trent Edwards, believe it or not, could be a 3rd rounder or sooner.

Kevin Kolb might go early. Jordan Palmer, too. Jeff Rowe has early round size and the resume.

The class isn't very top heavy, but there are a lot of other undersized guys that could get picked early because of their stats. Chris Leak is a perfect example.

Ainge, if he wants a long NFL career more than the immediate guaranteed money, will wait until he graduates.
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If Troy Smith is a first round pick, some GM is signing his own death warrant.
 
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VolinArizona said:
Before his injury, Brian Brohm, IMO, was the best NFL QB talent in college football ... and it wasn't close.

Will HE come out early? I doubt it.

Troy Smith will get a 1st round pick, most likely, regardless of his size.

Before Drew Stanton's mediocre 1st half, he was a possible 1st rounder.

Trent Edwards, believe it or not, could be a 3rd rounder or sooner.

Kevin Kolb might go early. Jordan Palmer, too. Jeff Rowe has early round size and the resume.

The class isn't very top heavy, but there are a lot of other undersized guys that could get picked early because of their stats. Chris Leak is a perfect example.

Ainge, if he wants a long NFL career more than the immediate guaranteed money, will wait until he graduates.
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I hope EA stays but I'm afraid he will go if he checks out your list. :peace2:
 
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VolinArizona said:
Trent Edwards, believe it or not, could be a 3rd rounder or sooner.

Kevin Kolb might go early. Jordan Palmer, too. Jeff Rowe has early round size and the resume.
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I'm gonna have to plead complete ignorance here. I've never heard of Edwards or Kolb.

And I called myself a college football fan.:mf_surrender:
 
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tidwell said:
I'm gonna have to plead complete ignorance here. I've never heard of Edwards or Kolb.

And I called myself a college football fan.:mf_surrender:
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Edwards is the SR QB at Stanford who put up good numbers as a JR last season and has good size. However, as you could guess with an 0-6 record, he doesn't look as good.

Kevin Kolb is the QB at Houston, who before the loss to ULL, I thought, was the best QB in the country. If Kolb were at Miami, Florida State, or Georgia Tech, they'd be undefeated and wouldn't have any competition for the NC.
 
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tidwell said:
I'm gonna have to plead complete ignorance here. I've never heard of Edwards or Kolb.

And I called myself a college football fan.:mf_surrender:
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Kolb plays for Houston. I saw him in person against the "U." He's pretty good. Edwards plays at Stanford. There's absolutely no reason you should have heard of him.
 
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#144
I see. Thanks for the info.

I knew I should've watched some of that Houston/Miami game. :)

Didn't Stanford get shutout by UCLA? :wacko:
 
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#145
VolinArizona said:
Edwards is the SR QB at Stanford who put up good numbers as a JR last season and has good size. However, as you could guess with an 0-6 record, he doesn't look as good.

Kevin Kolb is the QB at Houston, who before the loss to ULL, I thought, was the best QB in the country. If Kolb were at Miami, Florida State, or Georgia Tech, they'd be undefeated and wouldn't have any competition for the NC.
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Those three teams could have Matt Hasselback or Donovan McNabb at QB and they wouldn't win a National Championship.
 
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#146
tidwell said:
I see. Thanks for the info.

I knew I should've watched some of that Houston/Miami game. :)

Didn't Stanford get shutout by UCLA? :wacko:
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Stanford is as bad as any team as I have seen in a major conference in the last decade.
 
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#149
read an article this morning on KNS...talking about EA getting some heisman love, and his quote was:
"That kind of stuff is fun, but being on the Heisman list doesn’t win you football games," he said. "I don’t get caught up in it, the guys on the team don’t get caught up in the hype. It won’t affect us at all.
"Obviously that stuff’s fun on a personal level, but it never got us a first down."

Good stuff.
 
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jakez4ut said:
read an article this morning on KNS...talking about EA getting some heisman love, and his quote was:
"That kind of stuff is fun, but being on the Heisman list doesn’t win you football games," he said. "I don’t get caught up in it, the guys on the team don’t get caught up in the hype. It won’t affect us at all.
"Obviously that stuff’s fun on a personal level, but it never got us a first down."

Good stuff.
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Good point by EA.In the past,there have been several Heisman UT QB candidates/mentions such as Shuler and Manning and the hype never bothered them.
 
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