ESPN Anti-Vol Hype?

#101
#101
Liper said:
I think it's interesting that Notre Dame has won more Heistman trophies than the entire SEC.

It's also interesting that BAMA has never had a winner in all of its glory, nor TN.

If you look at the concentration of winners you'll see a trend following the major market areas.

The award is flawed anyway.
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Name an Alabama player who has ever had a year worthy of winning it. Also, I didn't realize Norman, OK was a major market.
 
#105
#105
Let's look at this alleged "trend"-Here are the locations of the schools for Heisman winners since '86:
'86-Miami, FL
'87-South Bend, IN
'88-Stillwater, OK-Media Mecca.
'89-Houston, TX
'90-Provo, UT-Hugely influential media center.
'91-Ann Arbor, MI
'92-Miami, FL
'93-Tallahassee, FL-Another media center.
'94-Boulder, Co-Isn't that America's sports media center?
'95-Columbus, OH
'96-Gainesville, FL- Comparable to New York in influence.
'97-Ann Arbor, MI
'98-Austin, TX
'99-Madison, WI-Huge media center. America couldn't get information if it weren't for Mad Town.
'00-Tallahassee-Again, a dominant media center.
'01-Lincoln, NE-Gigantic national media presence.
'02-Los Angeles, CA
'03-Norman, OK-Isn't CNN based there?
'04- Los Angeles, CA
'05- Los Angeles, CA
 
#106
#106
hatvol96 said:
Let's look at this alleged "trend"-Here are the locations of the schools for Heisman winners since '86:
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It's not the circulation of the local newspaper that counts. South Bend has a HUGE national following, their own TV and Bowl contracts, and a tiny local market. But the South Bend Tribune is not the measurement I would look toward.

What I mean by trend is that there "seems" to be a slight bias toward a couple of geogrpahical areas that, when in doubt, "tend" to garner greater support.

Incidentally, knowing that the SEC has the most talent each year makes me wonder how one school (ND) can have more awards.

More importantly, however, is that I think the whole dumb award is pointless. It's like splitting hairs over something that's irrelevant.
 
#107
#107
Liper said:
It's not the circulation of the local newspaper that counts. South Bend has a HUGE national following, their own TV and Bowl contracts, and a tiny local market. But the South Bend Tribune is not the measurement I would look toward.

What I mean by trend is that there "seems" to be a slight bias toward a couple of geogrpahical areas that, when in doubt, "tend" to garner greater support.

Incidentally, knowing that the SEC has the most talent each year makes me wonder how one school (ND) can have more awards.

More importantly, however, is that I think the whole dumb award is pointless. It's like splitting hairs over something that's irrelevant.
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Look when Notre Dame won those Heismans. Several were before the SEC and SWC integrated. That's one reason. A huge portion of the player pool was either playing at obscure HBC&Us or not playing at all.
 
#108
#108
Liper said:
More importantly, however, is that I think the whole dumb debate is pointless. It's like splitting hairs over something that's irrelevant.
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Taking a page from VolinArizona, FYP.
 
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