ESPN Bubble Watch

#151
#151
MemphisCanes said:
That still likely puts them behind Bama and Ole Miss in the SEC standings, and likely with a lower RPI than at least Ole Miss if not both.

Looking at the resumes for these teams, Tennessee doesn't really have any standout wins that the committee can look to in order to include them over Missy and Bama when those teams have better conference records. Gotta get the win over Florida.
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As it sits UT has a better resume than Bama and Ole miss...you think those 2 are gonna win out, not likely. And we saw how my h conference standings mattered last year, UT was 2nd but didn't get in.

UT can go 3-1 and still have a very good shot at making the dance.
 
#152
#152
MemphisCanes said:
If I understand you correctly, I think I agree. Tennessee has the inside track on Bama currently, but not Ole Miss, even after the USC disaster.
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If both teams win out UT RPI>Ole Miss RPI if both teams lose 1 UT RPI> Ole Miss RPI...if it then turns to resume its not really that close, UT has a much better resume, especially SOS.
 
#153
#153
Shaun1985 said:
If Tennessee drops the game to Florida, they need help getting in. I see no other way around that. Were just now beign considered by some for the tournament so if you can't win the biggest games left in the season, I wouldn't even be mad if we ended up on the wrong side of the bubble.
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If Tennessee drops Florida or Missouri and finishes at 19-11 they likely are 5 or 6. That gets them a bye...if they go 2-1 at SECT to finish at 21-12 their RPI is projected at 47 which when coupled with us closing 10-2 down the stretch would almost certainly get us in.

Now, I'd like to breathe easy on Sunday, so winning out is obviously preferred method.
 
#154
#154
bleedingTNorange said:
As it sits UT has a better resume than Bama and Ole miss...you think those 2 are gonna win out, not likely. And we saw how my h conference standings mattered last year, UT was 2nd but didn't get in.

UT can go 3-1 and still have a very good shot at making the dance.
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I don't believe that UT has a better resume than Ole Miss, but they may have a better resume than Bama.

I also never said that either of those teams would win out, although Ole Miss has a cakewalk of a schedule left.

UT CAN go 3-1 and have a very good shot at the dance if 1 of those wins is Florida. I'm more worried about the game @ UGA than either of the home games for UT.
 
#155
#155
bleedingTNorange said:
If both teams win out UT RPI>Ole Miss RPI if both teams lose 1 UT RPI> Ole Miss RPI...if it then turns to resume its not really that close, UT has a much better resume, especially SOS.
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Like I said above, Ole Miss' remaining schedule is a cakewalk.

Right now Ole Miss has the better resume, in my unbiased opinion.
 
#156
#156
I believe UT needs 20 w's just to get on the bubble. SEC sux this year, and there have been teams from the sec that did not get in with 20-21 w's over the last few years.
 
#157
#157
MemphisCanes said:
I don't believe that UT has a better resume than Ole Miss, but they may have a better resume than Bama.

I also never said that either of those teams would win out, although Ole Miss has a cakewalk of a schedule left.

UT CAN go 3-1 and have a very good shot at the dance if 1 of those wins is Florida. I'm more worried about the game @ UGA than either of the home games for UT.
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Who has ole miss beaten? There schedule is garbage.
 
#160
#160
MemphisCanes said:
I don't believe that UT has a better resume than Ole Miss, but they may have a better resume than Bama.

I also never said that either of those teams would win out, although Ole Miss has a cakewalk of a schedule left.

UT CAN go 3-1 and have a very good shot at the dance if 1 of those wins is Florida. I'm more worried about the game @ UGA than either of the home games for UT.
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Compare the resumes...right now RPI is 1 spot different. SOS, top 50 wins and most other category the committee looks at are all in UTs favor.
 
#164
#164
Catbone said:
If we lose to UGA does that mean we are done?
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No, that actually wouldn't be horrible (better than losing to auburn). It would mean we beat Florida and Missouri and auburn on the road.

IMO we can go 3-1 and still have a good chance, we'll just have to show strong at the SECT.
 
#165
#165
If we beat Florida what percantage chance you think we have from that point forward to get into the big dance? I would say at least 50% at that point right?
 
#166
#166
bleedingTNorange said:
No, that actually wouldn't be horrible (better than losing to auburn). It would mean we beat Florida and Missouri and auburn on the road.

IMO we can go 3-1 and still have a good chance, we'll just have to show strong at the SECT.
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Somebody asked the question earlier on one of these threads. You seem to be a good sourse so, if the trolls on here are disappointed and we do win out. Or we finish 3-1 and win a couple in the SECT does that have a positive effect on Ole Miss' RPI and SOS? I guess what I'm getting at is would it be enough to offset the benefit Ole Miss, Ala., and Ark might get? I thought so, but never really thought about schools we lost too benefitting from a good run we make in the end.
 
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#167
#167
The real problem here is that the other teams in the SEC fighting for a chance at the tournament (Arky, Ole Miss, Bama) are all teams we lost heads up matches against....and Ole Miss twice. jeez
 
#170
#170
GoobieVol said:
Somebody asked the question earlier on one of these threads. You seem to be a good sourse so, if the trolls on here are disappointed and we do win out. Or we finish 3-1 and win a couple in the SECT does that have a positive effect on Ole Miss' RPI and SOS? I guess what I'm getting at is would it be enough to offset the benefit Ole Miss, Ala., and Ark might get? I thought so, but never really thought about schools we lost too benefitting from a good run we make in the end.
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Arkansas and Bama are behind us at this point...the thing with ole miss IMO is that If we close the way we are talking we will be rolling and ole miss has been stumbling. IMO is closing strong will be more than enough to offset it.
 
#172
#172
bleedingTNorange said:
Arkansas and Bama are behind us at this point...the thing with ole miss IMO is that If we close the way we are talking we will be rolling and ole miss has been stumbling. IMO is closing strong will be more than enough to offset it.
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Agree. I do know one thing.... If they get Ole Miss and Ark. we might owe LSU a little somethin somethin. They would have beaten Ala, Ark, and Ole Miss in the last couple of weeks of the season.
 
#173
#173
bleedingTNorange said:
Like I said...compare them. Pull the resumes, almost all categories the committee looks at are in UTs favor.
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Both teams have losses to 100+ teams. Ole Miss has 1 top 50 win vs. UT's 2, but if UT continues to do well, then Ole Miss will have 3 top 50 wins. Ole Miss has the better RPI, better road record, better win ratio vs top 50-100 teams. It's not nearly as favorable to the Vols as you'd like to believe.

Also, look at the most recent brackets that have gone up on The Bracket Matrix. Tennessee is only listed on 3 of the brackets 40+ updated since Saturday, Ole Miss is listed on 22 of them.

UT is almost in a catch 22 with Ole Miss because the Rebels swept the Vols this season. If UT does well, then Ole Miss will have the better resume. If UT does poorly, then, well, the resume comparison is a moot point.
 
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