ESPN: Butch Jones a "fantastic hire" for Tennessee

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ETNVol said:
:lolabove: When we see the 2nd rate staff he assembles, the fail of this hire will really start to sink in for some of you.

Bill Parcells used a term frequently in the past, "JAG". As in, "He's a JAG." In other words, "just a guy".

We have yet another JAG as a coach. We have one as basketball coach. Sad day for UT sports.
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Please provide a link to the staff. I can't find it anywhere and I've been looking for it. :crazy:

So far, all I've been able to find is that Jay is staying and Tee has been contacted. :whistling:
 
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psulions2007 said:
Maybe you should watch more college football.

Franklin has taken Vandy to heights not seen before. An 8-4 season at Vandy is pretty outstanding.

Spurrier still has yet to have tremendous success at South Carolina. It is safe to say he's regressed a bit since at Florida. He's made strides...sure...but the blowouts are still there.

Bielema has 3 straight conference championships and BCS bids... enough said.

Sumlin took a 6-6 Big XII team and, in his first year coaching the team and in a new conference, went 10-2 with a young team and beat Alabama in Tuscaloosa. No doubt that Sumlin is a great coach who will be competing for national championships as early as next year.
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Why are you on a TN board. Can't you get enough misery on your Penn State board?
 
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Volnation needs to unite around our new hfc. He is a proven winner and has recruits all over the South and as far away as California. He hasnt been an SEC guy so far, but every coach who is had to start somewhere. He has years of head coaching experience and has won his conference title 4 of 6 years. He was named Big East Coach of the Year each of the last two years. He turned down other big schools to come and coach our Vols. I believe he truly wants to be here and put UT back on top of college football. He has experience with the pros which should help him with interacting with star athletes. He doesnt have any NCAA baggage that some of the other coaches who were available has. He seems focused and ready to get started. I say we ALL need to be united behind him 100% so we are doing our part to help get UT football back to past glory. We have Butch Jones whether you like it or not. I like it. Get busy backing him and the Vols or get out of the way! Naysayers are not productive! Go Big Orange!!!!
 
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psulions2007 said:
Technically he lost 56-17 against Georgia while at Central Michigan, but that's besides the point. What is the point is if you have watched these coaches multiple times on gameday... their decisions, their successes, their failures, how many championships they have won, how many big games they have lost, etc. What won't go away is a blowout loss against Derp Dooley's (a solid Tier 4 coach) Tennessee team in BJ's best season as a coach.

Based on that and comparing it against existing coaches, you've hired a solid Tier 3 coach. There is always chances of movement within the future... but this is certainly far from a homerun or solid hire that Tennessee desperately needed.
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A Penn State fan on a UT board? You do realize UT fans aren't afraid to say anything, right?


And Vandy didn't beat a team with a winning record, so 8-4 isn't impressive.
 
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psulions2007 said:
Technically he lost 56-17 against Georgia while at Central Michigan, but that's besides the point. What is the point is if you have watched these coaches multiple times on gameday... their decisions, their successes, their failures, how many championships they have won, how many big games they have lost, etc. What won't go away is a blowout loss against Derp Dooley's (a solid Tier 4 coach) Tennessee team in BJ's best season as a coach.

Based on that and comparing it against existing coaches, you've hired a solid Tier 3 coach. There is always chances of movement within the future... but this is certainly far from a homerun or solid hire that Tennessee desperately needed.
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You do realize that your team will be forever known as the the one who hid the most heinous crime in the last 15 years in CFB? Seriously, you have bigger fish to fry then come on here and talk about our hire. You need to figure out where you are going to store that Paterno statue and how to bury Sandusky's body.

BTW, good luck keeping O'Brien, word is he wants out.
 
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I'm reading all of this vitriol, and I can't help but wonder to what extent will the "fans' of the University of Tennessee football program continue to spew hateful and frankly disgusting comments upon a coach who was good enough to come here to coach our football team that we all claim to love. In 2008, we made the mistake of firing Phil Fulmer because for the second time in four seasons, he coached the Vols to a losing record. People don't realize that in most years, Fulmer was blessed with talented quarterbacks who were among the very best at their position in all of college football. We had guys like Heath Shular, Peyton Manning, Tee Martin, Casey Clausen, and Eric Ainge who slung the ball all over the place, or in the cases of Shular and Martin, were dual threats and could kill you running the football. However, in 2005 and 2008, Fulmer ran into a little problem: he had inadequate play out of his quarterback(s) which led to the offense not being able to score more than two touchdowns a game in most cases. In 2005, the problem was somewhat unpredictable because everyone assumed that Ainge would follow up his stellar freshman season with a sophomore campaign that would push Tennessee back into the national championship picture. Who would blame Fulmer for being optimistic for that team, for they started out the season ranked #3 in the polls behind USC and Texas. What we got was a 5-6 record and a loss to Vanderbilt as the ultimate kick in the nuts. The quarterback situation was in shambles, as Ainge was coming off missing the final four games of the 2004 season after suffering a season-ending shoulder injury, and Rick Clausen was nowhere near the talent his brother Casey was nor did he repeat the same success he enjoyed in his brief few appearances in '04. Then there's '08, and we assumed that Crompton had learned enough technique under Cutcliffe to bounce back after losing ugly games against LSU and Arkansas in 2006 when he was not ready for prime time. As it turned out, two years of preparation didn't quite prepare Crompton for prime time, ever. We lost homecoming to Wyoming, and just like in 2005, we had a championship defense under Chief, but the offense couldn't score enough points or stay on the field long enough to help the defense. So, what was our answer? Mike Hamilton fired the head coach who won us a national championship just ten years earlier and hired the village poster boy for bad behavior in Lane Kiffin, who bolts Tennessee and takes almost all of his recruits with him to USC. So what does Mike Hamilton do? He makes the mistake of hiring the first coach interested in the job after Kiffin left in Derek Dooley and he further trashes the program with athletes who didn't go to class, poor recruiting, and even worse in-game coaching. It got so bad under him that his assistant coaches started a mass exodus after his second season because they knew that Dooley wasn't long for this world with the job. Finally, mercifully, the Dooley era came to an ceremonious end for most Vol fans. Sadly, between him and Lane Kiffin, the football program had become the butt of jokes nationwide.

We just hired a head coach. We didn't get the ones we wanted, but I feel we got the right one. This guy cares about the unique traditions and this great university. He said it was his dream job, and I believe it, because not only is coaching at one of the top ten football schools in the history of the NCAA Division 1 FBS, he used to watch Tennessee play as a young man. (If you don't believe me, listen to the press conference again and hear for yourself the sincerity of his words.) As Mike Ditka said about his being hired by George "Papa Bear" Halas to coach the Chicago Bears at the beginning of the 1982 calendar year, "I got the job because it meant something to me." And that's the case with Coach Jones. The job means something to him. The job meant little to guys like Mike Gundy, Larry Fedora, Jimbo Fisher, and Charlie Strong. It sure as hell didn't mean anything to Jon Gruden. However, it means something to Butch Jones emotionally, and isn't that what we've always wanted in a Tennessee coach?
 
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The girls all look prettier at closing time. Hart closed the bar down this morning and left with the uglist girl in the room.
This is a big dissapointment.
 
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TNGrad2012 said:
I'm reading all of this vitriol, and I can't help but wonder to what extent will the "fans' of the University of Tennessee football program continue to spew hateful and frankly disgusting comments upon a coach who was good enough to come here to coach our football team that we all claim to love. In 2008, we made the mistake of firing Phil Fulmer because for the second time in four seasons, he coached the Vols to a losing record. People don't realize that in most years, Fulmer was blessed with talented quarterbacks who were among the very best at their position in all of college football. We had guys like Heath Shular, Peyton Manning, Tee Martin, Casey Clausen, and Eric Ainge who slung the ball all over the place, or in the cases of Shular and Martin, were dual threats and could kill you running the football. However, in 2005 and 2008, Fulmer ran into a little problem: he had inadequate play out of his quarterback(s) which led to the offense not being able to score more than two touchdowns a game in most cases. In 2005, the problem was somewhat unpredictable because everyone assumed that Ainge would follow up his stellar freshman season with a sophomore campaign that would push Tennessee back into the national championship picture. Who would blame Fulmer for being optimistic for that team, for they started out the season ranked #3 in the polls behind USC and Texas. What we got was a 5-6 record and a loss to Vanderbilt as the ultimate kick in the nuts. The quarterback situation was in shambles, as Ainge was coming off missing the final four games of the 2004 season after suffering a season-ending shoulder injury, and Rick Clausen was nowhere near the talent his brother Casey was nor did he repeat the same success he enjoyed in his brief few appearances in '04. Then there's '08, and we assumed that Crompton had learned enough technique under Cutcliffe to bounce back after losing ugly games against LSU and Arkansas in 2006 when he was not ready for prime time. As it turned out, two years of preparation didn't quite prepare Crompton for prime time, ever. We lost homecoming to Wyoming, and just like in 2005, we had a championship defense under Chief, but the offense couldn't score enough points or stay on the field long enough to help the defense. So, what was our answer? Mike Hamilton fired the head coach who won us a national championship just ten years earlier and hired the village poster boy for bad behavior in Lane Kiffin, who bolts Tennessee and takes almost all of his recruits with him to USC. So what does Mike Hamilton do? He makes the mistake of hiring the first coach interested in the job after Kiffin left in Derek Dooley and he further trashes the program with athletes who didn't go to class, poor recruiting, and even worse in-game coaching. It got so bad under him that his assistant coaches started a mass exodus after his second season because they knew that Dooley wasn't long for this world with the job. Finally, mercifully, the Dooley era came to an ceremonious end for most Vol fans. Sadly, between him and Lane Kiffin, the football program had become the butt of jokes nationwide.

We just hired a head coach. We didn't get the ones we wanted, but I feel we got the right one. This guy cares about the unique traditions and this great university. He said it was his dream job, and I believe it, because not only is coaching at one of the top ten football schools in the history of the NCAA Division 1 FBS, he used to watch Tennessee play as a young man. (If you don't believe me, listen to the press conference again and hear for yourself the sincerity of his words.) As Mike Ditka said about his being hired by George "Papa Bear" Halas to coach the Chicago Bears at the beginning of the 1982 calendar year, "I got the job because it meant something to me." And that's the case with Coach Jones. The job means something to him. The job meant little to guys like Mike Gundy, Larry Fedora, Jimbo Fisher, and Charlie Strong. It sure as hell didn't mean anything to Jon Gruden. However, it means something to Butch Jones emotionally, and isn't that what we've always wanted in a Tennessee coach?
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You had this speach ready 2 weeks ago. All you had to do is insert the coaches name. That was very nice of Jones to come take our 3 million and coach our team. What a favor he is doing us.
 
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I heard he gets crazy in practice and blasts music....hope we get to see some inside video of it....GET HYPE! time to support the coach flat out!
 
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babyavi said:
You do realize that your team will be forever known as the the one who hid the most heinous crime in the last 15 years in CFB? Seriously, you have bigger fish to fry then come on here and talk about our hire. You need to figure out where you are going to store that Paterno statue and how to bury Sandusky's body.

BTW, good luck keeping O'Brien, word is he wants out.
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I kind of doubt O'Brien leaves, hearing his buyout is something ridiculous, like $10 million.

Edit: Checked it, and it is $16 million this year, with a reduction of $2 million per year... not happening.
 
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I was truly impressed by AD Hart’s press conference announcing the change in direction for leadership of the Tennessee football program. He said all the right things. He gave us the highest expectations of what to expect from the next hire for HC of UT. Everything Vol fans wanted to hear was laid out before us on the grand stage of a Sunday afternoon press conference. And then began Epic Fail. No communication of any sorts lead to speculation of the highest order. Gruden hysteria was allowed to take hold of the fan base, while nothing was being done to achieve the lofty objectives presented to us in that Sunday press conference. Once the Gruden hype deflated into an embarrassing rejection, official attention was turned to OSU’s golden boy Mike Gundy (66-35, 1 conf title, and spent 18 of 22 years at his alma matter OSU). Shouldn’t a Vice Chancellor and AD understand the value of “homework”; “research”, and maybe practice those a wee bit? My three week old daughter knew he wasn’t going anywhere. Nevertheless, epic fail proceeded furiously with Charlie Strong. I can only imagine the thoughts that went through his mind between the time he was offered the UT HC job and THEN Gundy turned it down. I’m certain this made it very easy for Louisville’s brass to compel him to stay where he is truly wanted. Finally, our inept AD stumbles across a qualified candidate that truly desires to coach the Tennessee Volunteer football program and bring it back from it’s current state of disarray. If hubris and ineptitude had not been driving the coaching search to begin with, I would think Butch Jones should have been one of the first individuals contacted and gauged for interest about leading our great football program. Let us just be thankful that even in the face of incompetence leading the coaching search, we have landed someone with a great track record and the true potential to be fabulous coach at Tennessee. Coach Jones cannot be blamed for the embarrassment that lead to his hiring. I do not like being in this position as an Alum or fan, however; I’m glad to deal with a little embarrassment now than endure the years of embarrassment we all endured due to the abject failure of AD Hamilton’s decisions. I wish the best of luck to Coach Jones. As long as he succeeds, we won’t have to worry about another coaching search debacle lead by Hart.

As a side note, I would like to propose that Hart’s title be changed from “Vice Chancellor and AD” to “Dean of Football Bat Engineering.”
 
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CMcEver said:
I kind of doubt O'Brien leaves, hearing his buyout is something ridiculous, like $10 million.

Edit: Checked it, and it is $16 million this year, with a reduction of $2 million per year... not happening.
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He can resign. Take a leave of absence, pull an Urban Meyer.
 
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90 Vol said:
Listen, ESPN and the sunshine pumpers can try to spin this any way they want. The truth is that Tennessee football was at a crossroads and we made another budget hire. It's not Butch Jones' fault, it's a great opportunity for him. SEC football is currently an arms race and we bought a Red Ryder BB gun.
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At $3 million per year, its not exactly a budget hire.
 
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Press said:
You had this speach ready 2 weeks ago. All you had to do is insert the coaches name. That was very nice of Jones to come take our 3 million and coach our team. What a favor he is doing us.
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Oh really? I guess you have all the answers then, Press. I guess you can explain what happened that at least five different coaches that we interacted with (Gruden, Fisher, Gundy, Strong, and Fedora) turned us down. Yeah, I'd say it's a pretty nice thing that Jones did by accepting our pitiful excuse for a coaching job seeing as how it's become the joke of the college football world.
 
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Hi all, I am new here and this is my first post but I have been lurking for quite a while without a user ID. Just stopping in to read several times a day (in fact when I saw the original Gruden Cliff Notes had 1,200,000 hits my thoughts were "have I already visited this thread a million times?").

I came here for the latest on Gruden and I was on that train. Disappointed when it fell of the tracks, then disappointed that Strong didn't work out. I originally thought WTF when they hired Butch Jones but wanted to do some research on him.

So far I LIKE what I see. I saw the clip of him firing up his team. I saw the press conference and the meeting with the current UT players. So I am no longer thinking WTF and thinking Hey, this could be really good. I'm willing to give the guy a chance. He as a winner's attitude and WANTS to win and WANTS to be the best. Hopefully good things are still to come. I may not post much but I am gonna be here every day reading on the staff in hopes that he reels in Tee.

Thanks for your time everyone and I have enjoyed reading everything since the Gruden train. It was exciting and is exciting once again.

Mike

(BTW I live in Panama City, FL, graduated from UT in 1994)
 
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MikeInFla said:
Hi all, I am new here and this is my first post but I have been lurking for quite a while without a user ID. Just stopping in to read several times a day (in fact when I saw the original Gruden Cliff Notes had 1,200,000 hits my thoughts were "have I already visited this thread a million times?").

I came here for the latest on Gruden and I was on that train. Disappointed when it fell of the tracks, then disappointed that Strong didn't work out. I originally thought WTF when they hired Butch Jones but wanted to do some research on him.

So far I LIKE what I see. I saw the clip of him firing up his team. I saw the press conference and the meeting with the current UT players. So I am no longer thinking WTF and thinking Hey, this could be really good. I'm willing to give the guy a change he as a winner's attitude and WANTS to win and WANTS to be the best. Hopefully good things are here to come. I may not post much but I am gonna be here every day reading on the staff in hopes that he reels in Tee.

Thanks for your time everyone and I have enjoyed reading everything since the Gruden train. It was exciting and is exciting once again.

Mike

(BTW I live in Panama City, FL, graduated from UT in 1994)
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Welcome to VolNation.com, Mike! I hope that some of the people around here prove to be worse with their bark than their bite as some tend to be pretty acerbic at times.

You know, now that I think of it, I'm glad that we didn't get Gruden. Gruden never was a head coach at the college level, so there was no guarantee that he would have ever been successful. Also, he wouldn't have stayed for more than two or three years because in my opinion, the NFL is more of a challenge to him than anything Tennessee could have offered in his mind most likely. It's like that article in another thread stated: he is a pretty boy just like Kiffin, and he therefore doesn't know a thing about loyalty.
 
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alaVOL said:
Along with the rest of the SEC.
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Do you honestly think that Gruden is incapable of failure? The guy won a Super Bowl, yes, but he also experienced abject failure on a number of occasions as the head coach to the Bucs. What makes you think that Gruden would have made a good hire when he had no college coaching experience other than as an assistant?
 
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knoxtnguy said:
until i see some football im not on any train just yet. Just because he's TN new coach doesn't mean we have to pick a side.
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What are the two sides you are choosing from? If you don't want to support the new staff and the players, by all means, don't.
 
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psulions2007 said:
Alabama fans are already marking off wins against Tennessee for the next three years on their board.
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Yea and they are also sleeping with their cousins too ......just sayin ....... Cbj has won everywhere he's coached at ...... Go to YouTube and watch some of his videos ...... Wouldn't be surprised if we don't beat one or two that we are not suspose to beat .....imo ..... He11 the whole time dooley was here how many times did we hear the words championship ...... Cbj wins championships the last 4 out of 6 years that says something all by itself..... Do a little research the more I've seen the more i like the guy.....imho
 
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