Explosions in Norway

Watching the news coverage this morning. Every channel is reporting that the suspect did this to ignite a European-wide cleansing of all Muslims. He hopes to cause a revolution to eliminate multiculturalism.

All channels are reporting this. except one.
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And every channel was dead on with the "facts" they initially reported.

Fox has done a fair job, citing the guys gsvol-esque anti Muslim blogs and anti-multiculturalism rants.


Perhaps you should read before you jump to conclusions about who's reporting what. After browsing through CNN and a few other national sites, it appears after you are drawing some of your own conclusions from their articles and attributing your own conjecture to them.
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And every channel was dead on with the "facts" they initially reported.

Fox has done a fair job, citing the guys gsvol-esque anti Muslim blogs and anti-multiculturalism rants.


Perhaps you should read before you jump to conclusions about who's reporting what. After browsing through CNN and a few other national sites, it appears after you are
drawing some of your own conclusions from
their articles and attributing your own
conjecture to them.

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Please forgive me but explain to me what anti multiculturalism.
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This whole tragedy begs this question to be asked: Are we gonna see something like this happen in America and look back and say, "we should have done something about the extremely right-wing, Anti-Muslim, delusional member of the message board we post on everyday", the way many in Norway are currently reacting to postings the Norwegian whack job made on the internet?


Can't wait to see how this goes!
 
I don't think that anyone here would ever contemplate such a thing.

I'd like to see a less vitriolic, more reasoned approach to the subject from some folks, yes. But don't see anyone moving past the hateful rhetoric we see from them every day already
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I'd like to see a less vitriolic, more reasoned approach to the subject from some folks, yes. But don't see anyone moving past the hateful rhetoric we see from them every day already
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It's almost like you're trying to set others up to take shots at you.
 
I hope no one on here lost a friend or family member in this tragedy because it's incredibly offensive and disrespectful to the memory of the people lost to proffer this utter nonsense as anything but whackjob, sensationalist, agenda-driven bull****.

So what the CIA director testified to under oath to
congress is whackjob, sensationalist, agenda-driven
bull****?

Do you think it incredibly offensive and disrespectful
to the memory of the people who died in the OKC
bombing tonot bring out all the facts and to gloss
over the involment of others besides McVeigh and
Nichols?

I sure do.
 
So what the CIA director testified to under oath to
congress is whackjob, sensationalist, agenda-driven
bull****?

Do you think it incredibly offensive and disrespectful
to the memory of the people who died in the OKC
bombing tonot bring out all the facts and to gloss
over the involment of others besides McVeigh and
Nichols?

I sure do.

His testimony which amounted to the following:"We have a hunch, in the CIA, that this could be connected to Islamist militants; however, we have no conclusive evidence and the investigation, as of right now, is pretty stagnant. Do not shut the investigation down though, with more money we can make it even more inconclusive. Oh, and in a few years we will make the claim that the Iraqi's most definitely have weapons of mass destruction...we will never find them, though, but based on our intelligence (which happens to all fall to the non-corroborated testimony of one single individual) the US will enter a very costly war that will last at least 8 years..."

There is no conclusive evidence that links McVeigh and Nicholls to Islamists. The only link is circumstantial and falls on the: well, the terrorists in NYC used fertilizer bombs and the terrorists in OKC used fertilizer bombs...they must be connected. This would be the same as connecting every single murderer that uses a gun to the same higher ideology...since, of course, they all used guns.
 
Was Labour sympathetic to Islam (or perceived that way)?

Good question.

You make the call.

Jew-hate exposed on socialist youth camp on eve of massacre News that matters

This was the message from AUF leader Eskil Pedersen
the very day before the massacre took place in Utøya
in Norway. 85 of the Labor youth camp was massacred
by a Norwegian Freemason templar.

The day before the massacre, AUF leader Pedersen
invited the Norwegian Foreign Minister Jonas Gahr
Støre to the camp. Støre in the very minister in
Norway who recognized The Hamas, and held secret
talk with the leadership in the Islamic terrorist
organization.

This is what Pedersen is recorded saying to the
Norwegian newspaper Dagbladet, on 21st of July.
This was 48 hours before the tragedy took place.

“I acknowledge that economical boycott
of Israel is a dramatic tool to use. But we
are tired of Israel’s behavior. Large parts
of the Word reacts towards Israel all the
time, but Israel do not pay attention.
Our advice to the Government of Norway
is a signal, that we are tired of Israel”

explains Pedersen.

So is the labour party youth camp a modern day
revival of the nazi socialist brown shirts??

Threre are some similarities.


Is Oslo Normay Gunman Anders Behring Breivik Really a Right-Wing Extremist? | TheBlaze.com

Quickly, he has been labeled “extreme right wing,”
but is that really the fairest designation given what
we know thus far?

According to several outlets, Breivik identified with
some conservative causes. But the more one digs,
the more one finds that Anders Behring Breivik holds
the views of a racist, bigoted, zealot that really
can’t be fit into a neat box.
----------------------------

That’s certainly a mixed bag. And some of that
information would seem to hint at a possible extreme
leftist position, perhaps anarchism, would it not? It
certainly doesn’t reflect the views of a conservative
Christian, as he claimed to be.


It’s also important to note that the terms of American
politics are not easily transferable to European politics.
-------------------------

Considering what we know about Breivik, then, could
it be that the term “extreme right wing” is a misnomer?
Especially considering that when you start dealing with
extremist groups and individuals who fall well beyond
the fringe, their beliefs often blur — they handpick a
tenant from the right and bastardize it, grab an ideology
from the left and skew it, and then create their own
belief system.

Breivik’s beliefs — and the actions he implemented —
may show he and his ideology are as fuzzy as they
come.
 
Good question.

You make the call.

Jew-hate exposed on socialist youth camp on eve of massacre News that matters



So is the labour party youth camp a modern day
revival of the nazi socialist brown shirts??

Threre are some similarities.


Is Oslo Normay Gunman Anders Behring Breivik Really a Right-Wing Extremist? | TheBlaze.com

Way to both tacitly justify these actions and distance yourself from said actor in the same post. I am impressed, GS.
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This whole tragedy begs this question to be asked: Are we gonna see something like this happen in America and look back and say, "we should have done something about the extremely right-wing, Anti-Muslim, delusional member of the message board we post on everyday", the way many in Norway are currently reacting to postings the Norwegian whack job made on the internet?


Can't wait to see how this goes!

I hope not, even god forbid something like this happens. After 9/11, most people went on point to say that the terror attack did not represent all Muslims. If some nut job right or left winger attacks somebody like this, it would represent their own twisted views and the group they are part of. I did not paint everybody who is against abortion with being the same as the nuts that bombed the abortion clinics.
 
gs, economic boycotts of a nation are ethnic-hate acts? Fascinating.

More fascinating is the underlying sentiment of GS's post. If these kids do hate Jews then, in GS's world, this is not an atrocity (i.e., they deserved to be killed).

GS might not be celebrating in the street or burning a Norwegian flag; however, I will go on a limb and make the assumption that he is happy these "leftist, Jew-haters" were killed.
 
Think of it as wanting nations to be one culture, one identity.

Not a melting pot, with intermingled cultures.

Why One culture, One identity? Having multicultural in this country has made it what it is today. We have beloved a holiday and whiskey brought here by the Irish for an example. Every culture that has came to this country took something the the old land and made an American institution.
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Why One culture, One identity? Having multicultural in this country has made it what it is today. We have beloved a holiday and whiskey brought here by the Irish for an example. Every culture that has came to this country took something the the old land and made an American institution.
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Yea. Some people don't like that. Some people think it is a terrible thing.

Some people want "their nation" to be white, blond haired and blue eyed, only.

Or... ya know, not Muslim. Or... not Jewish.
 
Yea. Some people don't like that. Some people think it is a terrible thing.

Some people want "their nation" to be white, blond haired and blue eyed, only.

Or... ya know, not Muslim. Or... not Jewish.

That's BS man. I wonder if gsvol thinks this too because some of his post are crazy.
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