Face Mask No Call

#76
#76
I keep waiting for one of you or many of you to sue these officials and the sec for losses from betting due to the lack of competence these officials have had these first few games
 
#77
#77
If a NBA ref can fix games, it would be naive think it couldn’t happen in college football.

“Two years of reporting later, the story can now be told: This is the definitive account of how Tim Donaghy conspired to fix NBA games -- and how, in so doing, he unwittingly enriched an array of gamblers to the tune of likely hundreds of millions of dollars.”
I loved those 2k era Sacramento Kings teams. That game 6, in 2002, when the lakers shot 27 fts in the 4th quarter…
 
#78
#78
Seems as though this a topic every year. It mu stick out like a sore thumb on film. Do they get grade?
 
#81
#81
I'm sure the SEC refs get with ESPN before the games to see if
they should screw the Vols again. It's all a big fb conspiracy against the Vols.
 
#82
#82
Is Heupel helping the bookies by not disclosing suspensions and injuries to the public? Thought about this last week when UT was a 6.5 favorite at Florida and all of Vegas was picking Florida. Then the next week we find out about hidden suspensions. And Sampson never saw the field.
No and he shouldn't disclose anything. There is no right that anyone knows whos injured. Is their insiders letting Vegas know ? Maybe. Like I said some student waterboy getting a 5k handshake wouldn't surprise me.
 
#85
#85
If you watch a lot of college football you see it everywhere. My biggest gripe is the inconsistency. when is PI not PI. When is a pick not a pick. When is out of bounds and reestablishment or targeting not. That's just from yesterday. Maybe just the HUMAN element. Everything isn't always a conspiracy. But, then again.
 
#87
#87
Is anybody on here a relative or a close friend to a Division 1 P5 referee. I've often wondered if they are asked or are they embarrassed by calls they miss on National TV and called ut by announcers like several the UF game. Do they get reprimanded or do they just say we picked these guys we know their capable and we are going to hang with them to the bitter end. Or do they have a Union where they are untouchable. I mean I see lots of very bad calls a lot game changing in all 3 major sports and never hear of anyone getting any grief.
 
#89
#89
Means your post was made wearing a tinfoil hat. What? You think the mafia is controlling the refs??
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You can go back even before gambling was easy and there are numerous case were refs where shaving points making more than their jobs paid. To think it never goes on is to have your head in the sand. Theres millions of $$ bet every week. especially since digital gambling they can spread small bet of a couple thousand over many different states with bettors that cant be tied to.
 
#90
#90
To the ref who witnessed an obvious face mask call on Nico, are you really that stupid?

Good thing he didn’t get severely injured on that play.

Embarrassing that this is the best officiating NCAA has to offer.

The obvious PI call on their TD that was then picked up was the worst. You threw the flag. You saw the infraction. So why did you pick it up?
 
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You can go back even before gambling was easy and there are numerous case were refs where shaving points making more than their jobs paid. To think it never goes on is to have your head in the sand. Theres millions of $$ bet every week. especially since digital gambling they can spread small bet of a couple thousand over many different states with bettors that cant be tied to.
right and stuff is starting to happen in college atheltics too. Bama's baseball coach got caught feeding insider information to bettors. He got fired, but the SEC has not implemented any of the systems or protections to protect the integrity of competition. I wonder why that is!
 
#94
#94
To the ref who witnessed an obvious face mask call on Nico, are you really that stupid?

Good thing he didn’t get severely injured on that play.

Embarrassing that this is the best officiating NCAA has to offer.
It would be different if it were new or not almost uniformly against UT. The officiating in EVERY UT game this year has been terrible and terrible in a one-sided way.
 
#96
#96
Means your post was made wearing a tinfoil hat. What? You think the mafia is controlling the refs??
The options are gross incompetence or some form of dishonesty. Considering how one-sided these calls and non-calls have been this year... it is becoming harder to simply chalk it up to incompetence.

Last week an official stood and watched a DB stretch 9's jersey... and didn't call it. Remember the phantom holding and PI calls on UT's WRs? Remember the crack back block that occurs on almost all of those WR quick screens but was just called against UT?

We are beginning to go to a point where statistically simple incompetence... is no longer a reasonable conclusion. Bad calls usually even out. Can you name a bad call this year that favored the Vols?
 
#97
#97
It would be different if it were new or not almost uniformly against UT. The officiating in EVERY UT game this year has been terrible and terrible in a one-sided way.
If there is a sophisticated betting cartel that's illegally influencing the outcome of college football games, their #1 goal would be not to follow a pattern. A cheating system, that could be predicted from the outside, would be the last thing the cartel would want.
So, what would be more likely ?
That this cartel, that has kept their system hidden from the general public for years, has continually fixed every game against the same team (UT). Or, that a fan of a specific team (UT again) has a cognitive bias when viewing the calls against his favorite football team ?
 
#98
#98
If there is a sophisticated betting cartel that's illegally influencing the outcome of college football games, their #1 goal would be not to follow a pattern. A cheating system, that could be predicted from the outside, would be the last thing the cartel would want.
So, what would be more likely ?
That this cartel, that has kept their system hidden from the general public for years, has continually fixed every game against the same team (UT). Or, that a fan of a specific team (UT again) has a cognitive bias when viewing the calls against his favorite football team ?
I didn't say anything about a betting cartel. Personally I would consider that fairly unlikely. A crew conspiring to bet on games or an official who did so on his own would be slightly more likely but still fairly unlikely. It DOES happen... but guys also get caught doing it.

It could be as simple as not liking UT or Heupel or Hadden or UT's style of play and tempo. I don't know. All I know that there have been several egregiously bad calls and they've all gone against UT.

If I'm biased then show me the calls that went in UT's favor comparable to those that went against them. I'm open to considering my own bias here... but I think the facts are pretty straight forward. Go back to the game where Hadden was called twice for running into a WR on balls that were so badly underthrown that they could/should have been called uncatchable... then compare that to an opposing DB that did the same thing to a UT WR in the end zone with 2 officials bracketing the play.

Show me where UT has benefited from bad officiating as much as they've been hurt by it.
 
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#99
#99
I didn't say anything about a betting cartel. Personally I would consider that fairly unlikely. A crew conspiring to bet on games or an official who did so on his own would be slightly more likely but still fairly unlikely. It DOES happen... but guys also get caught doing it.

It could be as simple as not liking UT or Heupel or Hadden or UT's style of play and tempo. I don't know. All I know that there have been several egregiously bad calls and they've all gone against UT.

If I'm biased then show me the calls that went in UT's favor comparable to those that went against them. I'm open to considering my own bias here... but I think the facts are pretty straight forward. Go back to the game where Hadden was called twice for running into a WR on balls that were so badly underthrown that they could/should have been called uncatchable... then compare that to an opposing DB that did the same thing to a UT WR in the end zone with 2 officials bracketing the play.

Show me where UT has benefited from bad officiating as much as they've been hurt by it.
We don't have the same crews ref every game that we play. For every game to be affected would require some kind of coordination among the refs.
I'll do some research and see what I can come up with as far as counter examples.
PS. It's a pleasure to doubt someone's premise and have them reply in an intelligent and civilized manner. I thank you for that. It doesn't happen often.
 
When something like this happens, there should be either coaches or officials ability to demand to review it, and make the correction! It is directly related to player safety not a simple procedure call! It makes no sense why this doesn’t happen, o matter who the teams are.
 

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