Face Mask No Call

[AthensVol2007]

They get paid, but you’re right. They’ve got day jobs.

They get paid fairly handsomely too.

 

[JacketVol]

If this doesn't result in that official being suspended or fired then I'm not sure what level of incompetence/dishonesty would do it.

true and this is a player safety issues as well as Wright's hit that was not even reviewed for targeting.........someone should've taken that umpire out later in the game..............oh, I am sorry.......didn't see you there...............just like you couldn't see them trying to break our QB's neck you moran

 

[Wireless1]

When something like this happens, there should be either coaches or officials ability to demand to review it, and make the correction! It is directly related to player safety not a simple procedure call! It makes no sense why this doesn’t happen, o matter who the teams are.

I might have disagreed against KY last year........

 

[Volnanza]

To the ref who witnessed an obvious face mask call on Nico, are you really that stupid?

Good thing he didn’t get severely injured on that play.

Embarrassing that this is the best officiating NCAA has to offer.

He's going to the bank tomorrow to deposit his check. Yes. I think that is happening.

 

[orangerush]

My neck still hurts.

 

[sjt18]

We don't have the same crews ref every game that we play. For every game to be affected would require some kind of coordination among the refs.
I'll do some research and see what I can come up with as far as counter examples.
PS. It's a pleasure to doubt someone's premise and have them reply in an intelligent and civilized manner. I thank you for that. It doesn't happen often.

IIRC, this crew has called a UT game already this season.

Again, I'm not really making assumptions and don't deny my bias. But I'm objective enough to smile and say, "We got away with one there" or "The refs gave us a gift on that one". I've been aggravated several times and just haven't seen it balance out yet.

Each week the teams send in their officiating complaints to the SEC office. They're reviewed by the head of officials and maybe all the crew chiefs. If so and these really are just honest mistakes then we should start seeing UT catch some of those "breaks" rather than being victims of them.

I wish I had a source that broke flags down by the call. UT has hurt themselves a lot with unforced pre-snap penalties. That said, opponents have been flagged 2, 9, 5, and 5 in opponent order. The Vols have been flagged 4, 10, 10, and 5. Opponents have had penalty yds totaling 10, 75, 30, and 40. Against the Vols- 35, 88, 79, and 40.

The call against Castles and the no call on the face mask are just inexplicable.

 

[jaxvol]

They get paid fairly handsomely too.

From web ...

"The median salary for a football ref in the NCAA (of which the SEC is a part) is around $57,000, according to Comparably. According to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics, the median salary for referees, umpires and other sports officials in 2021 was $35,860."

 

[AthensVol2007]

From web ...

"The median salary for a football ref in the NCAA (of which the SEC is a part) is around $57,000, according to Comparably. According to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics, the median salary for referees, umpires and other sports officials in 2021 was $35,860."

$58k for a side hustle adding up to maybe 50 hours a season isn’t a bad day at the office.

 

[MemphisVol77]

Is anybody on here a relative or a close friend to a Division 1 P5 referee. I've often wondered if they are asked or are they embarrassed by calls they miss on National TV and called ut by announcers like several the UF game. Do they get reprimanded or do they just say we picked these guys we know their capable and we are going to hang with them to the bitter end. Or do they have a Union where they are untouchable. I mean I see lots of very bad calls a lot game changing in all 3 major sports and never hear of anyone getting any grief.

After the 2019 bama game (buck fama, btw), a Bama fan who happened to be the brother of a ref who called that game turned his Facebook page into a tribute of his ref brother.

That game was one of the worst examples of terrible officiating I can recall from recent memory.

Bituli got ejected for targeting on a flag that wasn't called targeting on the field and the video gave no indication of a helmet to helmet hit.

One of our DL (I think Middleton) got ejected for unsportsmanlike conduct for essentially reaching out his arm and steadying himself off their QB's shoulder.
One of Bama's DL concussed Mauer with a helmet to face mask late hit after the throw. Happened right in front of the refs, he wasn't even penalized.

We were on the goal line and tried to go Wildcat with Jennings taking the snap at one point. The play was whistled dead for no reason and the refs made up something about checking the spot.

There were a few more, it was bad.......

 

[KTrain]

$58k for a side hustle adding up to maybe 50 hours a season isn’t a bad day at the office.

Yep, most of them have full time jobs, some do use vacation time and sick days for travel but those are the higher paid ones and some make a lot of under the table money.

 

[vol_sec]

At least these refs didn’t tackle a UT player like what happened to South Carolina, vs LSU years ago. They need to screen refs for favoring a team or being bias towards another. Example, if close family members are bama fans, you shouldn’t be calling a Bama game.

 

[sjt18]

$58k for a side hustle adding up to maybe 50 hours a season isn’t a bad day at the office.

You get what you pay for. If you want full time professional officials which I would imagine the SEC does... and you want the best as I would imagine the SEC does then you have to pay them. Very likely this is still a sideline gig for most of those guys. Pay them and then have them available to officiate team practices.

Maybe hire NFL officials and make it worth their while to work two days a week.

The incompetence just has to stop.

 

[butchna]

When they picked up the flag on the pick play in the end zone...

Which Mason called as it was happening.

 

[sjt18]

The bottom line is this. The SEC makes about $750 million per year from football. The NCAA just screwed fans over big time to get more commercials while shortening actual plays per game. So those revenues are likely to increase. Devoting about 1% or $8 million to officiating crews would increase their pay to around $100K/yr on average and allow them to enforce a much higher standard of performance.

 

[508mikey]

He's going to the bank tomorrow to deposit his check. Yes. I think that is happening.

gets directly deposited into their Fan Duel accounts

 

[Weevol]

You get what you pay for. If you want full time professional officials which I would imagine the SEC does... and you want the best as I would imagine the SEC does then you have to pay them. Very likely this is still a sideline gig for most of those guys. Pay them and then have them available to officiate team practices.

Maybe hire NFL officials and make it worth their while to work two days a week.

The incompetence just has to stop.

I think NFL Refs are part time also.

 

[sjt18]

I think NFL Refs are part time also.

Well then... maybe the SEC just needs to set the bar higher for their officials. They guys who made the crack back call against Castles and the one who missed the face mask should be fired. No excuse for either call.

 

[508mikey]

Well then... maybe the SEC just needs to set the bar higher for their officials. They guys who made the crack back call against Castles and the one who missed the face mask should be fired. No excuse for either call.

and the clown that reviewed the fumble that was ruled a no catch after the WR ran 3 yards with it

 

[GAVol]

Well then... maybe the SEC just needs to set the bar higher for their officials. They guys who made the crack back call against Castles and the one who missed the face mask should be fired. No excuse for either call.

The crackback call was terrible, but at least that one was a judgement call with something to actually evaluate. They're not going to see everything, but the missed facemask with the official staring right at it was inexplicable.

 

[NOTembarassedanyMO]

It means it appears you're all in on a bat **** crazy conspiracy theory.

So far conspiracy theorists are up on the kool-aid crew about 20-0 so there is that LOL

 

[sjt18]

The crackback call was terrible, but at least that one was a judgement call with something to actually evaluate. They're not going to see everything, but the missed facemask with the official staring right at it was inexplicable.

True. But there are other "judgment" calls that UT should have harassed the SEC about. Hadden was called twice for running into WRs on balls so badly underthrown that they probably should have been (and in other SEC games were) called uncatchable. Later in the game, Milton threw to the corner of the end zone. The ball was catchable but the DB ran into UT's WR without turning his head or playing the ball at all- no call.

#9 was had his jersey stretched by a UF DB right in front of a sideline official with the ball in the air. No call.

They're starting to pile up. The Vols have hurt themselves with pre-snap penalties. But the other penalties do not seem to be getting called equitably.