Falcons players = Cry babies

#76
#76
hatvol96 said:
I don't have to tell my friends to do anything. Their Super Bowl rings are testaments to what they think about Rich McKay.
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I guess they have completely ignored McKay's performance since they won that ring. And if they like you give full and entire credit for those rings, they'd make good members of the Phil Fulmer Fan Club. They'd appreciate one ring a decade ago and mediocre performance since.
 
#77
#77
CSpindizzy said:
Yeah. It was all him. It was all him. No one else. They won a division as he walked in the door. Go look at their record since. Tell me please what he's done since.

You see, I find it humorous that you assume I am casting my lot with a fleabag franchise. Please tell me why you think this? And if I was casting my lot with a fleabag franchise wouldn't it be contradictory to cast my lot with Petrino? That sentence made no sense.

And as long as you're giving props to McKay for supposedly taking a fleabag franchise to the Super Bowl, your logic should also be applied to the guy you've repeatedly slammed in Tony Dungy. Shouldn't your logic apply across the board? I find it ironic that logic used to prop up a GM cannot be applied to the HC in a very similar situation.
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As is usually the case with you, you've been unable to grasp two simple concepts. 1. Rich McKay assembled the team in Tampa with little to no input from anyone else. That's how GMs in the NFL generally operate. 2. I could care less what he does, has done, or will do in Atlanta. Were it left to me, all of Fulton County would be used for a live action recreation of Gone With The Wind.
 
#79
#79
Vercingetorix said:
Again, the soundbites you're talking about were all from earlier in the week; there hasn't been any new anti-Petrino material since then. You're blaming the players for the fact that other people are continuing to talk about it, and that hardly seems fair. There's plenty of better things to blame them for, after all.
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Have you missed all of my posts about their pathetic play and work ethic? I believe you will see several posts from me that instead of running their mouths last week, they should have been working on Sunday's game. They got on camera and in the newspapers making the whole team's failure out to be about his picking on the veterans or not talking to the players, etc. Does that excuse poor punting and kicking? Poor special teams? Poor defense? Poor off-field actions?
 
#81
#81
CSpindizzy said:
Have you missed all of my posts about their pathetic play and work ethic? I believe you will see several posts from me that instead of running their mouths last week, they should have been working on Sunday's game. They got on camera and in the newspapers making the whole team's failure out to be about his picking on the veterans or not talking to the players, etc. Does that excuse poor punting and kicking? Poor special teams? Poor defense? Poor off-field actions?
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Did you rip Jason Taylor and the rest of the losers in Miami for attacking Saban after he left the Dolphins?
 
#82
#82
CSpindizzy said:
Have you missed all of my posts about their pathetic play and work ethic? I believe you will see several posts from me that instead of running their mouths last week, they should have been working on Sunday's game. They got on camera and in the newspapers making the whole team's failure out to be about his picking on the veterans or not talking to the players, etc. Does that excuse poor punting and kicking? Poor special teams? Poor defense? Poor off-field actions?
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Uh, it was a figure of speech. I know that you blame them for damn near everything imaginable.
 
#83
#83
hatvol96 said:
As is usually the case with you, you've been unable to grasp two simple concepts. 1. Rich McKay assembled the team in Tampa with little to no input from anyone else. That's how GMs in the NFL generally operate. 2. I could care less what he does, has done, or will do in Atlanta. Were it left to me, all of Fulton County would be used for a live action recreation of Gone With The Wind.
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Proof? And that's how teams generally operate? You are telling me a coach and an owner does not have ANY input or preference on this? I guess all of those coaches who are hired on understanding of operational control and decision making authority are smoking crack for asking for that? Odd that some of the best coaches in the game ask for that. And quite odd a few posts back you claimed several coaches' players and their teams as a point of an argument. Why the flip? First it's all the GM. Then it's about the coaches' players. Now the GMs are the ones with full control.

And again, I'm not sure where the inability to grasp the logic that if he was so skilled why couldn't he carry over his skills in coming to Atlanta? It doesn't matter if the city is as bad as post Katrina 9th Ward. If he was as good as you claimed and truly had the control you claim, why didn't he work that same magic here? Dump city aside, are you saying that the dirty city just dampened those mad skills of his?
 
#87
#87
CSpindizzy said:
Manuels needs to be inducted in a hall of fame.
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Manuel's is a good bar, but I wish they had a better draft selection. For as many taps as they have, there's never anything very interesting available. I'd go there more often if they had better beer.
 
#89
#89
CSpindizzy said:
And quite odd a few posts back you claimed several coaches' players and their teams as a point of an argument. Why the flip?
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I was ridiculing how utterly mindless your "it was Dungy's team' line of thinking is. I'll dumb it down for you next time.
 
#90
#90
CSpindizzy said:
Proof? And that's how teams generally operate? You are telling me a coach and an owner does not have ANY input or preference on this? I guess all of those coaches who are hired on understanding of operational control and decision making authority are smoking crack for asking for that? Odd that some of the best coaches in the game ask for that.
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How many Super Bowls did Bill Parcells win in situations where he made the personnel decisions? A few coaches have been given real personnel power over the years. Most have failed so miserably, that's why the vast majority of teams aren't stupid enough to give coaches personnel power. If you want a nice education as to how personnel decisions are made in the NFL, read Feinstein's Next Man Up. It's pretty accurate. Coaches give their opinions. GMs are free to disregard them and most do. The only owners who even think about giving their opinions on players are megalomaniacal imbeciles like Jerry Jones and Daniel Snyder.
 
#91
#91
hatvol96 said:
Were it left to me, all of Fulton County would be used for a live action recreation of Gone With The Wind.
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Now that's funny :) ... Just do me a favor and save Cobb County, OK? Although the Chattahoochee River is a nice natural firewall for that purpose.
 
#92
#92
hatvol96 said:
I was ridiculing how utterly mindless your "it was Dungy's team' line of thinking is. I'll dumb it down for you next time.
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I guess your "it was all McKay" line was genius. Odd how one side is dumb but the flipside with the same logic is smart. Still waiting for proof on McKay. Odd how in Tampa Bay he was a miracle worker turning water into wine and in Atlanta the team regressed. Again, the man you make out to be some messiah clearly has some flaws. So that leaves a huge gap in whether the Tampa Bay acts were truly all his workings.
 
#94
#94
hatvol96 said:
Other than the fact he took Tampa from being the laughingstock of the league to a Super Bowl title? I believe Atlanta won a division with him as the GM. How many of those have they won in their sorry history? Just because you've chosen to cast your lot with a fleabag franchise in a town that should have remained as Sherman left it, that's no reason to cast your lot with trash like Petrino.
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HE took...no one else. Yes, you're saying it's all McKay.
 
#97
#97
hatvol96 said:
Find that line and I'll give you $100. Oh, it doesn't exist. You're really not very good at this.
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And amazingly you deflect when you're cornered with the truth. Odd how you insisted all of Tampa Bay's hey day was McKay and just sang his praises but yet when he was given control elsewhere he could not duplicate "his" success. If all of Tampa Bay's success was truly about him shouldn't such magnificent skill be able to duplicate if not exceed? Again, you fail to indicate and prove how Tampa Bay was all him and no one else. This has to be some of the worst logic I've ever seen.
 
#99
#99
CSpindizzy said:
And amazingly you deflect when you're cornered with the truth.
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Amazingly, someone with your limited mental capacity and ability to reason somehow manages to remember to breathe. Shouldn't you be cleaning the Smith family's toilets?
 
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