FBI, Lowder, Dye Etc Unbelievable Summary on the Newton Situation (Must Read)

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TXVOL07 said:
You're in the minority Kid.
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No doubt. Also, I'm just trying to keep things going in the discussion. Something is going on - I just don't know what yet and I keep seeing a reality being created that is built on some major assumptions. Again, the 9/11 truther versions of events come to mind.

I don't buy into the grand conspiracy that has "the Plains burning". But something definitely is going on.
 
#152
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I wouldnt be shocked to see a ton of heads rolling from very high places at Auburn before all this is over. Speculation or not concerning Cam, enough has been uncovered in unrelated areas to call for concern.
 
#153
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TXVOL07 said:
and what good is a NC if the glass football never gets delivered?
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Absolutely no good, to anyone other than certain Auburn fans and those who want to live to see Auburn play in the NC game.

There will forever be a fan base at Auburn that will not, regardless of what happens, believe that this is anything other than an orchestrated attempt to bring Auburn down because they were about to win a title.

And by their reasoning, they are innocent until vacated. I think they'd rather take the chance than simply surrender the opportunity.

They pull him and nothing comes out, Auburn fans will roast that staff and administration.

They don't pull him and he wins, and nothing comes out, all is well.

They don't pull him and he wins and it is vacated, well... try to convince a Memphis fan that they never made it to the title game with Derrick Rose.
 
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TXVOL07 said:
You're in the minority Kid.
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I don't necessarily think thats true. I think a lot more folks than u imagine would like to have A&M. Now, as far as the ones that are the most vocal, you may indeed be right. If AU were to indeed be dropped, you could be known as the 12th man of the SEC.
 
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#156
Im more interested in beating the hell outta Nebraska than discussing us coming to the SEC again. Lets save it for a later date, and get back to Cam and the dismantling of Auburn Athletics.

I dont want to be the cause of a thread getting off topic.
 
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fl0at said:
I think, from a PR point of view, a better comment that effectively means the same thing would be:


If I am a PR guy, I'd have about 15 scripted responses already written and in the hands of anyone that might see a camera.

Acknowledge, deflect and evade all without coming off as dismissive and arrogant.
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Auburn is making Marcia Clark, Christopher Darden, and George Bush look smart, calm, collected, and together from a PR perspective.
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#159
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TXVOL07 said:
Im more interested in beating the hell outta Nebraska than discussing us coming to the SEC again. Lets save it for a later date, and get back to Cam and the dismantling of Auburn Athletics.

I dont want to be the cause of a thread getting off topic.
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Cam has a better chance of getting off scott free than you do of beating nebraska. Nothing personal, but like you I think your coach is a blithering idiot.
 
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volinbham said:
Again to be Devil's Advocate - so far we know that Cecil shopped Cam to MSU. Seems he would have shopped him elsewhere but those allegations have not surfaced.

The NCAA rep indicated that to be ineligible, Cam had to have taken some part in the process.

So, while there's likely more to it so far him being ineligible is not a done deal.
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Isn't there something going around that Cam himself stated that he didn't go to Miss State because his father picked AU because the money was better? That shows he knew exactly what was happening.
 
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Cecil asked for money from Miss. St, thats a known fact. Cecil admitted to it.

No way Cecil didnt ask for money from Auburn. If he asked Miss. St., he asked Auburn

No doubt in my mind Cam knew about the money. Cam is no angel, if he steals laptops and cheats on grades, he isnt going to think twice about taking money. He thinks people will turn a blind eye because he is a super athlete.
 
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BigOrange15 said:
They aren't going to kick Auburn out. The NCAA will bring the judgement hammer down, but Auburn isn't going anywhere imo.
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I agree. This forum speculation is getting way ahead of the facts. What precedent is there for kicking a school out of a conference? We're not talking Missouri State here, we're talking a major revenue-generating athletic program.
 
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Velo Vol said:
we're talking a major revenue-generating athletic program.
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That old "ya gotta spend money to make money" adage defends that aspect, eh?

The speculation is merely a mental stroking leading to talk of loss of SACS accreditation and possible expulsion from the SEC via voting among the various schools.

It is probably the least likely thing to occur, but it is fun to ponder. Least for me.
 
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#171
There is a whole lot more to this story than the Newtons, but the Newtons just seem like the kind of people who take things that aren't theirs, and demand things that are not ethically right. College football is a sleazy business, but these guys have taken it to a whole new level.

Yay, to the Barners for redirecting a lot of heat away from Tennessee's programs!
 
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orangeslice said:
if all this is true, AL must be one of the most corrupt states in the country. According to this report, Chizick didn't know about it so he may have been lied to and that's the reason he played Cam. These 'big players' need to be punished as harshly as possible if indeed this web of corruption is proven to be true. There are many reputable people at AU and for it to be destroyed by unscrupulous crooks is pathetic. It could happen at any university so we need to hold our administration accountable and demand integrity in our athletic programs. How sad that Cam's collegiate experience will be forever tainted by this scandal and maybe he was not aware of everything....if true, his father is a poor excuse for a man. All for the love of money...Cam will probably make a lot of money eventually but what about HONOR? What a devastating scenario for young people to observe and how disgusting that our society can be so corrupted by greed and dishonesty. I am not naive and nothing really shocks me anymore but I am sickened by what college sports has become..God help us!
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IMO the Alabama political/judicial system is as corrupt as Chicagos or NYC at its worst.
 
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CountVolcula said:
Cecil asked for money from Miss. St, thats a known fact. Cecil admitted to it.

No way Cecil didnt ask for money from Auburn. If he asked Miss. St., he asked Auburn

No doubt in my mind Cam knew about the money. Cam is no angel, if he steals laptops and cheats on grades, he isnt going to think twice about taking money. He thinks people will turn a blind eye because he is a super athlete.
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Just an alternative theory (that I'm not claiming; just presenting).

Cam looks set to go to MSU anyway. Cecil thinks to himself "maybe I can get some cash out of this". When MSU doesn't play ball he say screw you we'll go to Auburn. The Cam statement about the "money" could refer to the fact that MSU didn't pay not necessarily that Auburn did.

Perhaps they felt his chance to be a star and get paid (NFL) was better at Auburn after they heard the Auburn pitch. Auburn is higher profile than MSU and looked to have a better pathway to TV time and championship potential than MSU.

Just a possible explanation.
 
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This lays out how the FBI got involved in all this and really makes Auburn look guilty... It is a long read but if you stay with it, it makes it hard not to think Auburn is going to get hammered after this plays out.
 

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