Federal Indictment of Donald Trump

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StarRaider said:
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Don’t care who the President is or what party, I swear these WH spokespersons will carry any water they’re told. Have some damn dignity and turn in your resignation. Instead, they hang around and look like fools regurgitating scripted excuses and lies, as if it’s not obvious to everyone else on the planet.
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
I don't believe they were planted for a second, but I find it ironic that you would make fun of the suggestion since I am sure you believe the documents were planted at Mar a Lago. Trump says distrust everything and you do. Others say it and you mock.
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I am sure you don't know me . I distrusted the government and in particular democrats long before Trump . You keep focused on everything Trump. He wouldn't be running again if they would have left him alone.
 
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RockyTop85 said:
It’s an executive order and it does not say the president can declassify with a fart.
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But executive orders are as binding on successive presidents as a fart.

It is not known whether Trump had any docs he had not already classified in the months prior as Kash Patel has stated, or not among those in his declass authorization on Jan 19, 2021. Which DOJ had attempted to run the clock out on, and even after Trump accepted their redactions Garland decided he didn't have to honor the declassification order. That doesn't nullify their declassification, it means our AG is political and petty. Memorandum on Declassification of Certain Materials Related to the FBI’s Crossfire Hurricane Investigation – The White House

Does Trump believe he can simply think declassification and it happens, or is he jabbing the left who'd lose their shite in any event? Who knows. But what we do know is that while farting docs into declassification is a humorous approximation of thinking them into declass, Trump actually did notify everyone in the nation he was doing so. And that more than fulfills any constitutional obligation, real or imagined. Probably 95% of the wailing/gnashing over the class status of the docs would be unnecessary by this simple observation, but hell! - what's more fun than convincing oneself (with DOJ pulling our strings) that Trump has gone from election collusion with Russians to selling them nuke secrets?
 
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Why do we need so much classifies information? None of this classified stuff is concerning the military or technology, this is all about having dirt on citizens. No reason the archives has to classify everything.

Why does the jfk investigation need to be classifies? Because it shows how much of a shadow gov our fbi and cia has become.
 
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hog88 said:
What does it say about the procedure a president must follow? You can link it if you want.
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And there you go.
In the thousands of frantic reports regarding, how many told the public the system is a creation of the executive and rules to live by for everyone except the executive? That the constitution delegates that authority to the president and underling bureaucrats answer to him in the matter, not the other way around - ? Executive Order 13526- Classified National Security Information

It's stunning, really. We're in a period of continuous waves of mass psychosis generated by government. It has no precedent in my lifetime.
 
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NCFisher said:
And there you go.
In the thousands of frantic reports regarding, how many told the public the system is a creation of the executive and rules to live by for everyone except the executive? That the constitution delegates that authority to the president and underling bureaucrats answer to him in the matter, not the other way around - ? Executive Order 13526- Classified National Security Information

It's stunning, really. We're in a period of continuous waves of mass psychosis generated by government. It has no precedent in my lifetime.
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I read that when it was linked by someone else a few days ago. It doesn't cover POTUS and his authority nor does it set a procedure POTUS must follow.

I suspect the reason Rocky hasn't replied is because he cannot find anything limiting the powers of POTUS when it comes to declassifying material (other than the nuclear mentioned earlier).
 
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hog88 said:
I read that when it was linked by someone else a few days ago. It doesn't cover POTUS and his authority nor does it set a procedure POTUS must follow.

I suspect the reason Rocky hasn't replied is because he cannot find anything limiting the powers of POTUS when it comes to declassifying material (other than the nuclear mentioned earlier).
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Exactly; I read it months ago as it was unfolding and argued it then against the same people who still refuse to acknowledge it. I'm not directing that at RT85 and assume he hasn't read it, but that he'll conclude the same.

I once thought you could pose objective arguments and move people from fallacious positions. I was wrong; that's a rarity. Most, once invested, just wait for you to move on and then resume. It makes one question why bother at all.
 
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NCFisher said:
But executive orders are as binding on successive presidents as a fart.

It is not known whether Trump had any docs he had not already classified in the months prior as Kash Patel has stated, or not among those in his declass authorization on Jan 19, 2021. Which DOJ had attempted to run the clock out on, and even after Trump accepted their redactions Garland decided he didn't have to honor the declassification order. That doesn't nullify their declassification, it means our AG is political and petty. Memorandum on Declassification of Certain Materials Related to the FBI’s Crossfire Hurricane Investigation – The White House

Does Trump believe he can simply think declassification and it happens, or is he jabbing the left who'd lose their shite in any event? Who knows. But what we do know is that while farting docs into declassification is a humorous approximation of thinking them into declass, Trump actually did notify everyone in the nation he was doing so. And that more than fulfills any constitutional obligation, real or imagined. Probably 95% of the wailing/gnashing over the class status of the docs would be unnecessary by this simple observation, but hell! - what's more fun than convincing oneself (with DOJ pulling our strings) that Trump has gone from election collusion with Russians to selling them nuke secrets?
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Strong and OWNED worthy.
 
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OrangeTsar said:
That’s why you have to impeach Harris first, refuse to confirm her replacement, THEN impeach Biden 😉
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Absolutely agree. Nixon did it that way. Dumped Agnew and picked up Ford. Problem is nobody has anything other than incompetence to nail Harris with, and her incompetence is basically no worse than joe's.
 
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