Federal Indictment of Donald Trump

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lawgator1 said:
What is your explanation for why he took so many and, more importantly, intentionally kept them when directed by authorities and even his own lawyers to return them?
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All I could guess is he took stuff relevant to investigation of him that he thought showed wrong doing or bias against him so he could insure they wouldn't get buried.
 
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lawgator1 said:
What is your explanation for why he took so many and, more importantly, intentionally kept them when directed by authorities and even his own lawyers to return them?
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Apparently the amount he took isn't that unusual. Maybe and pure speculation on my part as to why he didn't return them, maybe he believed the documents he refused to return belonged to him. Remember, he did had over several boxes of documents well before the raid.
 
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evillawyer said:
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This is your reply to an indictment for classified information possibly in the wrong hands?!!!!?? HRC was 10000 times more guilty. Trump is an ass, but HRC is so much worse.
But hey, partisan hacks will partisan hack. Hope you are happy jack.
Can there please be one unifying American factor in this upcoming election, please, please, please. You leftist and rightist are ruining America.
Land of the used to be free because of the gotcha anti trumps and but Biden is worse.
Vote any non incumbent in your next election and watch America prosper again. F*** division, speak as one voice. Bring our country out of divisiveness.
 
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turbovol said:
You'll acknowledge that there is a big difference between this---7 indictments--versus Burisma, which doesn't involve Biden or anyone in his administration and is 0 indictments.

Yes, of course, the gangster will get a trial. He was just convicted in one trial, and there are a few more in his future.

Meanwhile, there is this--oh, my:

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Once again I’m asking you to clarify. Is it possible that being indicted is not a sign of guilt Are all guilty people indicted? And the FBI has a document ALLEGING…..see what I did there….that Burisma paid the OG (older gangster) 5 large. Is Biden not a part of the Biden administration? Actually don’t answer that, there’s a joke In there somewhere. As far as it aging well. It aged about as well as the OGs comments on classified docs the week before they were found with radiator fluid from the Vette leaking on them.
 
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lawgator1 said:
What is your explanation for why he took so many and, more importantly, intentionally kept them when directed by authorities and even his own lawyers to return them?
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Seriously? Have you ever watched any interview with Trump? Any debate? Any news clip? YouTube post? Facebook video? Audio recording where he didn’t think he was the most awesomeness dude to ever grace your presence or brag about assaulting women? Jesus bro, he thinks he can do whatever. I guarantee you most high ranking politicians are egotistical scumbags and hold themselves to the same esteem. And you can’t just wave your hand and gloss over the other presidents that have been caught red handed with classified material and excuse Biden , Pence , Obama, Bush so on and so forth.
 
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turbovol said:
You'll acknowledge that there is a big difference between this---7 indictments--versus Burisma, which doesn't involve Biden or anyone in his administration and is 0 indictments.

Yes, of course, the gangster will get a trial. He was just convicted in one trial, and there are a few more in his future.
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Trump was convicted? Must have missed that.
 
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Weezer said:
Trump is an egomaniac. That doesn't change that Hillary, Biden, and Pence have all broken the same laws of mishandling classified information. The idea that because he's an egomaniac means it's okay to prosecute him but not the others is absurd. The real reason "justice" is being pursued against Trump is politics. I have zero desire to see him as POTUS again, but there are some who are quaking in their boots at the idea.

With every year that passes, I see more and more 1984 in our government. It's scary. And what's scarier is the amount of people choosing to embrace it.
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I agree, but I also see an element of bringing it upon yourself
 
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This is what happens when you don't read your company-approved talking points before you go on air.

 
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hog88 said:
Because Trump has a bigger following than any Dem and if Biden runs again you won't have near the "anyone but Trump" vote that was there in 2020. Only the hard core Dems will be out pulling that lever for Biden, those that voted against Trump will either stay home or vote for him this time around. Biden has been an unmitigated disaster and only those blinded by partisanship can't see it.

Now with that being said, I hope like hell Trump withdraws and stays out of the election completely.
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Even assuming that’s a plausible theory for the general election, it still ignores the reality that this makes him more likely to win the primary which, if they’re scared, they’d hope to avoid.
 
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joevol24 said:
This is your reply to an indictment for classified information possibly in the wrong hands?!!!!?? HRC was 10000 times more guilty. Trump is an ass, but HRC is so much worse.
But hey, partisan hacks will partisan hack. Hope you are happy jack.
Can there please be one unifying American factor in this upcoming election, please, please, please. You leftist and rightist are ruining America.
Land of the used to be free because of the gotcha anti trumps and but Biden is worse.
Vote any non incumbent in your next election and watch America prosper again. F*** division, speak as one voice. Bring our country out of divisiveness.
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RockyTop85 said:
Even assuming that’s a plausible theory for the general election, it still ignores the reality that this makes him more likely to win the primary which, if they’re scared, they’d hope to avoid.
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I think they are hoping for a conviction or a deal for his withdrawal, plus this splits the Rs and will lead to internal division within the party.
 
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RockyTop85 said:
Even assuming that’s a plausible theory for the general election, it still ignores the reality that this makes him more likely to win the primary which, if they’re scared, they’d hope to avoid.
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If Trump supporters were smart -- and they're clearly not -- they'd support a republican in the primaries that actually has a chance in the general because if the Republicans win the White House, Trump gets an immediate pardon. If Trump runs against Biden, you'll see an unheard of turnout to defeat Trump. Then Biden wins again and no pardon.
 
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illumiVOLi said:
And Clinton was any better or Biden? Don’t get me wrong I freaking hate Trump. All both parties trot out are a bunch of old dinosaurs with so many skeletons in their closet when they speak a bone flies out of their mouth. We need some young blood.
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I agree. I'm about to the point of capping the max age for a president at 72.
That is why I continually say it is about the primary vote. I did not support Clinton in the 2016 primary nor Biden in the 2020 primary. It's the people who support sh!t candidates in the primaries who are most to blame.
 
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hog88 said:
I think they are hoping for a conviction or a deal for his withdrawal, plus this splits the Rs and will lead to internal division within the party.
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I just don’t think it splits the republicans very much. If it had happened next January, maybe. I don’t think people are firmly enough entrenched with a specific primary candidate for this to be more of a wedge than it was 2 years ago. And Trump/Trump being in trouble is just part of political landscape now. If that is their strategy they are 8 years too late.

The other two ideas seem plausible, although I think only the plea bargaining him out of politics would concern me. If they go through pretrial motions, this favorable judge, a trial, his defense, and a petit jury and come out with a conviction then that’s how the system is supposed to work.
 
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evillawyer said:
If Trump supporters were smart -- and they're clearly not -- they'd support a republican in the primaries that actually has a chance in the general because if the Republicans win the White House, Trump gets an immediate pardon. If Trump runs against Biden, you'll see an unheard of turnout to defeat Trump. Then Biden's wins again and no pardon.
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I think if Democrats were smart they’d stop thinking Trump doesn’t have a chance and find someone better than Biden.

Trump’s most vulnerable moment was when it was fresh on everyone’s mind that he was hamming it up and joking about disinfectant while people were dying from COVID, and he still lost a close race.

Hog’s theory of the 2024 general isn’t unbelievable. The average voter isn’t going to recognize Trump’s contributions to the current economic problems, most will lay that entirely on Biden, and his base is going to show up again.
 
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