Ferguson Riots

[govols/cc]

Good one. At least you stopped saying "critical thinking".

It's funny when you say it......and also sad

 

[n_huffhines]

Just saw a video that looks like Brown jumping an old man. Brutal. Do not recommend.

ITOT we were wondering why some stories get legs and others don't. Obviously Brown's case is racially charged. I kinda feel like if middle America would grab onto stories like the 12 YO in Cleveland being shot by cops, or Garner being killed by a banned arm bar*, and ask for change, then minority America would be less inclined to go nuts over something like Brown's death. I think if we can meet them halfway about police brutality, it would go a long way towards improving relations.

*I know, I know, "it's Garner's fault". What you're going to say is exactly what I am talking about. You can't meet them halfway.

 

[Weezy]

The fake video?

 

[Grand Vol]

Just saw a video that looks like Brown jumping an old man. Brutal. Do not recommend.

ITOT we were wondering why some stories get legs and others don't. Obviously Brown's case is racially charged. I kinda feel like if middle America would grab onto stories like the 12 YO in Cleveland being shot by cops, or Garner being killed by a banned arm bar*, and ask for change, then minority America would be less inclined to go nuts over something like Brown's death. I think if we can meet them halfway about police brutality, it would go a long way towards improving relations.

*I know, I know, "it's Garner's fault". What you're going to say is exactly what I am talking about. You can't meet them halfway.

You surely are a dreamer.

Even after the facts of the matter came out, they were ignored in lieu of a more convenient excuse to loot and pillage.

 

[n_huffhines]

You surely are a dreamer.

Even after the facts of the matter came out, they were ignored in lieu of a more convenient excuse to loot and pillage.

Well, my point was that people would be less inclined to ignore facts if they were ever met halfway. Middle America ignores facts and tries to excuse the 12 YO shooting.

I would say I'm a dreamer just for hoping that middle America would care about police brutality when it comes to crimes they don't commit, specifically against groups of people they don't relate to (liberal, "lazy", etc.).

Rough up somebody for a parking violation. They'll be against that for sure. Rough up somebody (and the guy ends up dead) over avoiding cigarette tax? Well, that's not a crime middle America commits, so they don't give a damn.

 

[Carl Pickens]

Well, my point was that people would be less inclined to ignore facts if they were ever met halfway. Middle America ignores facts and tries to excuse the 12 YO shooting.

I would say I'm a dreamer just for hoping that middle America would care about police brutality when it comes to crimes they don't commit, specifically against groups of people they don't relate to (liberal, "lazy", etc.).

Rough up somebody for a parking violation. They'll be against that for sure. Rough up somebody (and the guy ends up dead) over avoiding cigarette tax? Well, that's not a crime middle America commits, so they don't give a damn.

Surely you meant to say repeat offenders that through their own actions put themselves in direct confrontation with the cops....

 

[Grand Vol]

Well, my point was that people would be less inclined to ignore facts if they were ever met halfway. Middle America ignores facts and tries to excuse the 12 YO shooting.

I would say I'm a dreamer just for hoping that middle America would care about police brutality when it comes to crimes they don't commit, specifically against groups of people they don't relate to (liberal, "lazy", etc.).

Rough up somebody for a parking violation. They'll be against that for sure. Rough up somebody (and the guy ends up dead) over avoiding cigarette tax? Well, that's not a crime middle America commits, so they don't give a damn.

And my point is that some just don't care about facts because it gives them an excuse to riot and burn. I'm all for the free expression of dissatisfaction with police tactics. But peacefully and with regard for other people's property and rights. Not like what we've seen in Ferguson or the NYPD Chief getting blood thrown all over him.

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

Why is this soooo hard for you (huff) to understand? When a person, anybody & it doesn't mean the color of skin, "resist arrest" from the cops more than likely you'll get hurt as in the case of Garner. Cigarette tax or jaywalking it doesn't matter. Garner's choice was a bad decision to not comply w/officers. You resist arrest you'll be in some pain.

 

[n_huffhines]

Why is this soooo hard for you (huff) to understand? When a person, anybody & it doesn't mean the color of skin, "resist arrest" from the cops more than likely you'll get hurt as in the case of Garner. Cigarette tax or jaywalking it doesn't matter. Garner's choice was a bad decision to not comply w/officers. You resist arrest you'll be in some pain.

I didn't even really bring up skin color.

There should be no arrest in the first place.

There should be no choke-hold in the second place.

Your point doesn't factor into my assessment of the criminal justice system. I agree that you can use some force when people resist arrest. I don't agree with excessive force, and I don't agree with unjust laws.

 

[CNCVol88]

I didn't even really bring up skin color.

There should be no arrest in the first place.

There should be no choke-hold in the second place.

Your point doesn't factor into my assessment of the criminal justice system. I agree that you can use some force when people resist arrest. I don't agree with excessive force, and I don't agree with unjust laws.

When you're a repeat offender like he was there should be.

 

[Vol8188]

Just saw a video that looks like Brown jumping an old man. Brutal. Do not recommend.

ITOT we were wondering why some stories get legs and others don't. Obviously Brown's case is racially charged. I kinda feel like if middle America would grab onto stories like the 12 YO in Cleveland being shot by cops, or Garner being killed by a banned arm bar*, and ask for change, then minority America would be less inclined to go nuts over something like Brown's death. I think if we can meet them halfway about police brutality, it would go a long way towards improving relations.

*I know, I know, "it's Garner's fault". What you're going to say is exactly what I am talking about. You can't meet them halfway.

Most things I've read claim that video was not michael brown and I'm inclined to believe that. The guy looks too short.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Liqiour store or payday loan first to reopen

I'll go with liquor store since none of them will be getting any paychecks, and the liquor store can't tell illegal crack money from legitimate earnings.

 

[n_huffhines]

When you're a repeat offender like he was there should be.

Repeat offender of an unjust law means nothing to me.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Repeat offender of an unjust law means nothing to me.

It should, because it is relevant. I an ordered society, like the one we supposedly live in, you don't get to choose. If you and your anarchy buddies win the day, I'm going to tear the tags off my mattresses. :machgun:

 

[n_huffhines]

It should, because it is relevant. I an ordered society, like the one we supposedly live in, you don't get to choose. If you and your anarchy buddies win the day, I'm going to tear the tags off my mattresses. :machgun:

So, every speeding violation should be ticketed? If no, then you agree that this is a false argument. If you say yes, then you are a fool.

You don't have to answer.

 

[volbeast33]

So, every speeding violation should be ticketed? If no, then you agree that this is a false argument. If you say yes, then you are a fool.

You don't have to answer.

The cops didn't get to decide what to do....garner already went into his F u this and FU that....I guarantee u that u act that way and very single speeding ticket will be enforced.

 

[n_huffhines]

The cops didn't get to decide what to do....garner already went into his F u this and FU that....I guarantee u that u act that way and very single speeding ticket will be enforced.

So, because the cop's pride gets hurt, the law should be enforced? And the guys who give cops handies after minor infractions are OK to let off the hook.

 

[Vol8188]

So, because the cop's pride gets hurt, the law should be enforced? And the guys who give cops handies after minor infractions are OK to let off the hook.

I do love the feel of a firm night stick in my hand.

 

[Carl Pickens]

I didn't even really bring up skin color.

There should be no arrest in the first place.

There should be no choke-hold in the second place.

Your point doesn't factor into my assessment of the criminal justice system. I agree that you can use some force when people resist arrest. I don't agree with excessive force, and I don't agree with unjust laws.

How do you know there should have been no arrest? You saw an edited video and not all of what actually transpired beforehand.
Was he not creating a disturbance in front of the store? Why are you so compelled to defend this type of person?

 

[Carl Pickens]

Repeat offender of an unjust law means nothing to me.

What unjust law are you referring to? Do you think his record only shows the selling of cigarettes?

 

[volbeast33]

So, because the cop's pride gets hurt, the law should be enforced? And the guys who give cops handies after minor infractions are OK to let off the hook.

Do u have any common sense at all? If u break the law and want any chance of getting out of it all....the best way to do that is not to tell the one whose choice it is to F off.....

I think u need to watch Chris Rocks video....How to not get your a&& kicked by the police......very funny and true

 

[govols/cc]

Well, my point was that people would be less inclined to ignore facts if they were ever met halfway. Middle America ignores facts and tries to excuse the 12 YO shooting.

I would say I'm a dreamer just for hoping that middle America would care about police brutality when it comes to crimes they don't commit, specifically against groups of people they don't relate to (liberal, "lazy", etc.).

Rough up somebody for a parking violation. They'll be against that for sure. Rough up somebody (and the guy ends up dead) over avoiding cigarette tax? Well, that's not a crime middle America commits, so they don't give a damn.

You just don't understand how some people are in the real world.

 

[utvolpj]

Do u have any common sense at all? If u break the law and want any chance of getting out of it all....the best way to do that is not to tell the one whose choice it is to F off.....

So it's the job of the Police to decide what laws are enforced and which ones aren't? Where is this statute? Is it written in there about the subjects demeanor, race, sex, etc?

 

[volbeast33]

So it's the job of the Police to decide what laws are enforced and which ones aren't? Where is this statute? Is it written in there about the subjects demeanor, race, sex, etc?

Weren't u on the other end of that argument regarding Eric Garner the other day.....I'm fine with thm giving a ticket every time someone breaks the law.....I also know that some times they will give warnings for minor offenses....I'm ok if they don't though.

 

[utvolpj]

Weren't u on the other end of that argument regarding Eric Garner the other day.....I'm fine with thm giving a ticket every time someone breaks the law.....I also know that some times they will give warnings for minor offenses....I'm ok if they don't though.

Not really. If there are laws that don't need to be enforced then why are they on the books? In the case of Garner, if they would not detain and cite/arrest everyone doing the exact same thing then it's a useless law. Officers are not law makers