Fiesta Bowl Game Thread: #2 Ohio St (13-0) vs #3 Clemson (13-0) (ESPN 8PM EST)

[LittleVol]

Do you even know what “leading with the crown” is?

Obviously you don't, because you haven't answered either my questions.

Answer the questions...
Don't answer with a question of your own.

 

[VolsSportsFan]

His head was up...but it hit Lawrence's head.

That's what the TARGETING was for.

It's a bogus rule that isn't Lawrence or Wade's fault.

If his “head was up”, then why the hell did he hit him with the top of his helmet?

 

[BowlBrother85]

His head was up...but it hit Lawrence's head.

That's what the TARGETING was for.

It's a bogus rule that isn't Lawrence or Wade's fault.

Yes, it was.

 

[volinbham]

Curious, is this the first time you noticed that call in a game?

the crazy thing is that it doesn't even have to be helmet to helmet - you lead with the crown and even if Lawrence doesn't duck it could still be called. Can't hit a basically stationary person with the crown of your helmet first

 

[Lawrence Wright]

Clemson dropped a pick six though

And Dobbins dropped a TD that would have extended OSU’s lead.

 

[VolsSportsFan]

Obviously you don't, because you haven't answered either my questions.

Answer the questions...
Don't answer with a question of your own.

Obviously you don’t the way you described his hit. His head was NOT up.

 

[VolsSportsFan]

the crazy thing is that it doesn't even have to be helmet to helmet - you lead with the crown and even if Lawrence doesn't duck it could still be called. Can't hit a basically stationary person with the crown of your helmet first

Apparently this is too difficult to grasp for some here.

 

[zeppelin128]

I do not dislike Clemson like some here do. I like Lawrence as a player.

I don't really have an opinion on Clemson. But I absolutely loathe Ohio and refuse to root for them unless they are playing Bama or Florida.

 

[BowlBrother85]

If his “head was up”, then why the hell did he hit him with the top of his helmet?

He didn't hit him the crown... Lawrence was crouching down. It's a cheap call.

 

[VolsSportsFan]

Yes, it was.

NO, it wasn’t.

 

[LittleVol]

If his “head was up”, then why the hell did he hit him with the top of his helmet?

Because Lawrence shrunk down into the hit...the facemask and the top or the helmet are inches away from each other.

 

[VolsSportsFan]

He didn't hit him the crown... Lawrence was crouching down. It's a cheap call.

The defender hit him with HIS crown.

Geezus.

 

[volinbham]

I don't really have an opinion on Clemson. But I absolutely loathe Ohio and refuse to root for them unless they are playing Bama or Florida.

samesies

 

[BigOrangeAl 1979]

Clemson winning another national title would be worse for UT than LSU or OSU winning it

 

[volinbham]

The defender hit him with HIS crown.

Geezus.

LOL

 

[BowlBrother85]

the crazy thing is that it doesn't even have to be helmet to helmet - you lead with the crown and even if Lawrence doesn't duck it could still be called. Can't hit a basically stationary person with the crown of your helmet first

That isn't right. You can hit a QB with your helmet first... it just can't be in the knees while he is in the pocket, and it can't be helmet to helmet. And Wade did not lead with the crown of his helmet, nor did he launch himself into Lawrence. Wade did make helmet to helmet contact, though... so, by the letter of the rule, it is correct... but cheap.

 

[golfballs]

OSU losing to LSU in New Orleans would cause the entire Big 10 to meltdown.

 

[volinbham]

Clemson winning another national title would be worse for UT than LSU or OSU winning it

 

[BowlBrother85]

The defender hit him with HIS crown.

Geezus.

No, he didn't.

 

[ABINGDON VOL FAN]

I don't really have an opinion on Clemson. But I absolutely loathe Ohio and refuse to root for them unless they are playing Bama or Florida.

Historically I despise Ohio State, Michigan, Notre Dame and FSU. I doubt I would ever want to see them win against any of UT’s biggest rivals in the SEC.

 

[LittleVol]

Curious, is this the first time you noticed that call in a game?

No. Not sure why that's relevant .
And I've complained about these calls for 3 4 years now.

That was a great defensive play negated because of "protection of the game".

Was not malicious at all. Lawrence ducked into it.

 

[Orange_Crush]

Because Lawrence shrunk down into the hit...the facemask and the top or the helmet are inches away from each other.

Lawence ducking doesn't change the angle that Wade's helmet arrives. His head was down. He hit with the crown. It was extremely obvious on replay.

 

[VolsSportsFan]

His head was up...but it hit Lawrence's head.

That's what the TARGETING was for.

It's a bogus rule that isn't Lawrence or Wade's fault.

You're telling me the OSU defender's head was up on this play.....if so, please get your freakin' eyes checked.

 

[zeppelin128]

OSU losing to LSU in New Orleans would cause the entire Big 10 to meltdown.

And it will be glorious.

 

[Zues1]

OSU losing to LSU in New Orleans would cause the entire Big 10 to meltdown.

And NO to burn to the ground, which might be a good thing