Fire Her!!!!!!!!

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#26
One note: I was at the game, and the one complaint you cannot make is lack of effort. The Ladies played with intensity and energy the entire game. Their defensive effort kept them in it.
 
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allenfan1 said:
Well you will see who is overrated when they get in the pros. You already saw Russell in the Olympics and what she could do.
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Really? Russell has concrete in her feet , can't jump and can barely move. What did she do in the Olympics ?
 
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Band-AidVol said:
I've never seen such piss poor awareness out of a Lady Vols team, and it has been like this since she took over. Shot clock violations with no clue it's winding down, turnovers, no hustle, and I could go on and on. She is destroying the program Pat built and she needs to go.
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Lock her up ! Lock her up!
 
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If Currie and Davenport don't do their job and replace Holly then you know where LV basketball stands on the list of importance to them.
 
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Top Gun said:
If Currie and Davenport don't do their job and replace Holly then you know where LV basketball stands on the list of importance to them.
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It ranks below the revenue sports to UT admin. They just want WBB to be revenue-neutral, and they're not going in the red by paying Holly's buyout. The worst she'll get is no extension and a talk about expectations. That's just the reality of UTAD.
 
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I'm not a die hard lady vols fan, but I do bleed orange and always watch them 3 or 4 times throughout the season. When the tourney rolls around, I make sure to watch. Saying that, I think a lot of fans my age (35) are like me. Growing up we use to go watch the boys play but always wanted to watch the lady vols. Why? Because we beat the living piss out of people. I also always remember never worrying about them bc I knew that every year was a chamionsip year. Took those days for granted. I have nothing bad to say about coach warlick, she has been doomed from jump street bc the shoes she had to fill are just too big. The game has changed a lot since the glory days of coach summit. Women's basketball has grown and thus created much more opportunities for young ladies to become great players. The playing field and talent level is much more even across the country now and will only get better. Eventually, the same thing will happen to uconn. Imo, we are not even the best program in the sec, let alone the country. This job needs to be treated like it matters. Produce or pack. Obviously she is not meeting expectations and the fan base was lost a long time ago. It's time to make a change and look for a young energetic coach that thinks outside the box. Lady vols tradition is gone, so let's start a new one before our name no longer carries respect. GBO AND GO LADY VOLS!!
 
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Amb3096 said:
I sense that they were probably sold on the Tennessee legacy than Holly. Even if she's sacked, I can imagine that they would still want to come and be part of the class that can hopefully turn around the team's trajectory.

Wishful thinking, however. I don't think she's going to get fired for at least the next 2 years. The worst case scenario is that the freshmen are just good enough to get Tennessee back in the rankings and the S16/E8, thus saving Holly unless the new AD is thinking "FF or bust"
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This is a very likely scenario. Next year, I predict a 20-9 regular season won-loss record. This record will buy Holly another season as HC at least,
 
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A few thoughts...

If Holly goes and the LV's sign a top notch coach I don't believe they would lose a single recruit. And if they did it quick enough it might keep DD and MR on the team.

By making a quick move Currie would send an important message to ALL UT's sports teams: Winning is important -- we won't settle for long-term mediocrity.

I don't think Holly will EVER be able to satisfy most of the LV fan base. So is it better to do the inevitable sooner... or later?

The new recruits will be freshmen. While we'd love to see them play well from day one, it's not likely... and it's not the most important thing... how they play in their second, third, and fourth years is. If we accept the fact that player don't develop well under Holly's coaching -- and that seems to be the consensus -- then why sacrifice a crucial year of player development in the hope of a slightly better season? (And if MR and DD leave I doubt that would actually occur!)
 
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LA Vol said:
It ranks below the revenue sports to UT admin. They just want WBB to be revenue-neutral, and they're not going in the red by paying Holly's buyout. The worst she'll get is no extension and a talk about expectations. That's just the reality of UTAD.
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Would definitely be interesting if they went the no extension route. That can be a kiss of death in the recruiting world.
 
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ocoandasoc said:
The new recruits will be freshmen. While we'd love to see them play well from day one, it's not likely... and it's not the most important thing... how they play in their second, third, and fourth years is. If we accept the fact that player don't develop well under Holly's coaching -- and that seems to be the consensus -- then why sacrifice a crucial year of player development in the hope of a slightly better season? (And if MR and DD leave I doubt that would actually occur!)
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That's what I see as the opportunity cost. Holly's track record of developing players, especially guards, is piss poor. Diamond is the exact same player today as she was when she was a freshman in college. Middleton, Carter, Reynolds, and Jackson have all been busts playing under Holly in spite of their high school accolades.

Maybe Anastasia and Evina will come in and be better, but they better be All-SEC level on day 1, because I wouldn't bet money on their improving under Holly. The improvement between freshman and sophomore year is usually the biggest leap, and that has been a serious deficiency for Holly as a coach.
 
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She may very well get another year or so with this latest class but CHW track record has kinda spoken for itself. A head coach she is not. Don't let this sink lower it has, pls.
 
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Amb3096 said:
That's what I see as the opportunity cost. Holly's track record of developing players, especially guards, is piss poor. Diamond is the exact same player today as she was when she was a freshman in college. Middleton, Carter, Reynolds, and Jackson have all been busts playing under Holly in spite of their high school accolades.

Maybe Anastasia and Evina will come in and be better, but they better be All-SEC level on day 1, because I wouldn't bet money on their improving under Holly. The improvement between freshman and sophomore year is usually the biggest leap, and that has been a serious deficiency for Holly as a coach.
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about guards at UT. Guards come to UT and lose their games! This school is a guard graveyard! When is the last time we had a great guard? I don't think we've had a stellar point guard since Marciniak, frankly--what was that, 20 years ago? Moore was athletic, pretty good, but her teams weren't very good. We brought in a JC guard for the Parker years. It's been spotty recruiting at both guard spots and no development. Massengale? Thought she'd be very good but wasn't--soft, not a good defender, etc. Simmons--a shooter and not a scorer, not a great all-around game. Reynolds? Big disappointment. I'm sure all would have benefited from better coaching. They come in highly rated and leave as ...meh. Lawson was probably the best all-around guard we've had since Marciniak.
 
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Velo Vol said:
How does she manage to sign top players with such a mediocre record?
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People forget the previous two years were busts--bad years. The year before last we signed NOBODY--unprecedented. Got a one-year-transfer who's now done and a two-year transfer, I think, coming off a knee injury, and a late signee who will never play. The year before that we signed Jackson--athletic but no offensive game--and Cooper, who will also be coming off a knee injury and didn't exactly light it up as a freshman. She has potential but struggled mightily against zone defenses. So basically one potentially solid player in two classes.
 
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Velo Vol said:
How does she manage to sign top players with such a mediocre record?
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I do not mean this in any way to reflect on TN, but that is the question that bangs around in my head whenever a new highly sought recruit commits to play for Warlick. Do these kids ever watch games she is coaching in?

TN is a great program with great facilities and I get the 'you can help lead us back to the promise land and bring TN back to it's rightful place' is a great pitch, but ... the product Holly puts on the floor is not attractive, and her press conferences are sort of frightening.
 
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armchair said:
about guards at UT. Guards come to UT and lose their games! This school is a guard graveyard! When is the last time we had a great guard? I don't think we've had a stellar point guard since Marciniak, frankly--what was that, 20 years ago? Moore was athletic, pretty good, but her teams weren't very good. We brought in a JC guard for the Parker years. It's been spotty recruiting at both guard spots and no development. Massengale? Thought she'd be very good but wasn't--soft, not a good defender, etc. Simmons--a shooter and not a scorer, not a great all-around game. Reynolds? Big disappointment. I'm sure all would have benefited from better coaching. They come in highly rated and leave as ...meh. Lawson was probably the best all-around guard we've had since Marciniak.
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wow that was a knock at coach summit hoss.all 4 yrs when moore ran team they made final 4 oh wait she blew her knee in game against duke in regular season so she didn't play final 4.a little history for a so called lady vol fan.
 
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Did ya'll REALLY think this was going to end well? C'mon! They've sucked ALL year. They're NOT getting any better because they are in the Tourney.

Ya'll get all worked up buying the hype. "Oh, just wait when we get to the tourney... we're gonna make a RUN!!" Riiiight. Until they play a decent team.
 
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I used to defend CHW but she sucks bad! Time for her to go. Maybe the new AD will give her the boot. We can only hope!
 
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Watching her coach is as fun as having a root canal procedure. Take us out of the PAIN. Spend some real money and hire a good coach. No more bargain basement blue light special types.

SPEND THE DOLLARS. No alumni players please.
 
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