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#126
champyvol said:
wow ainge. who hired sanders. who stuck with sanders. never said i was smart only said it was my opinion. i've been a fan since 82 and always will be. unlike you though i would like us to be back on top. in my opinion as long as phil is there it isn't going to happen. he hasn't done it since 98, i don't think it will happen in the next 3 years. the team is on a downward trend and i'm afraid the Wildcats of kentucky may run all over us. maybe you like getting beat by vandy and kentucky, but i don't. by the way they really are not points or facts, they are just opinions. all opinions are worth something champ even yours, i just don't agree with them.
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Exactly my point, "champ".....You go into every game, no matter who it is we play expecting to LOSE....Yeah I'm realistic in my hopes when we play, yeah I've went into a few games thinking we might lose but never KNOWING that we'd lose.....You can blow that right out your butt
 
#127
#127
#10_Ainge_#10 said:
Exactly my point, "champ".....You go into every game, no matter who it is we play expecting to LOSE....Yeah I'm realistic in my hopes when we play, yeah I've went into a few games thinking we might lose but never KNOWING that we'd lose.....You can blow that right out your butt
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i don't go into every game. just the ones against ranked teams, especially at home. the cal game i was thinking i might be wrong this year, but after the florida game i felt the same way. i figured we would lose the LSU game and we did and i knew we were in for a whoopin last night and we took one. i have to be realistic. look at next year and it is a year off. i have us with 3 L's already, SC, Arkansas, Georgia. mainly because they will be ranked and we usually lose to ranked teams at home. plus i think there coaches are better. i can honestly see a 7-5 or 8-4 year next year and that seems to be the norm for tennessee football. if fans are happy with that then thats fine, but i'm not.
 
#128
#128
champyvol said:
i don't go into every game. just the ones against ranked teams, especially at home. the cal game i was thinking i might be wrong this year, but after the florida game i felt the same way. i figured we would lose the LSU game and we did and i knew we were in for a whoopin last night and we took one. i have to be realistic. look at next year and it is a year off. i have us with 3 L's already, SC, Arkansas, Georgia. mainly because they will be ranked and we usually lose to ranked teams at home. plus i think there coaches are better. i can honestly see a 7-5 or 8-4 year next year and that seems to be the norm for tennessee football. if fans are happy with that then thats fine, but i'm not.
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Thank you, you've given me a reason to laugh today......We lost to Florida by one point because of a BS blow to the head call.....We lost to LSU because of a blown fumble call...and there is no excuse for last night.....those other two really aren't excuses....IF we had played well enough to, we would have won....But seriously, thinking that because we have 3 home games against teams that will be ranked and saying you already have us with 3 losses is dumb....Obviously, you're a fan that thinks just because on paper the game should be won by the other team or by us, it'll happen....There's a reason why they play the game
 
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#129
#10_Ainge_#10 said:
Thank you, you've given me a reason to laugh today......We lost to Florida by one point because of a BS blow to the head call.....We lost to LSU because of a blown fumble call...and there is no excuse for last night.....those other two really aren't excuses....IF we had played well enough to, we would have won....But seriously, thinking that because we have 3 home games against teams that will be ranked and saying you already have us with 3 losses is dumb....Obviously, you're a fan that thinks just because on paper the game should be won by the other team or by us, it'll happen....There's a reason why they play the game
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true so we can lose at home.:) thats just my thinking the last 4 years or so, we just don't get it done at home. teams are getting better and we are not, without a great recruiting class this year we will be in trouble from next year on. the kids are smart they are staying away from UT for a reason. you figure out why.
 
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#130
Wade got beat all night (with a gimpy player). He never has his body turned right. Some guy running the d never answered. he never gave him help he never took him out. He was a deer in headlights when it counted.

He did take the blame for last night. Chavis at least knew what went went wrong from the interview. But after the fact is miles different in real time.
 
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#131
Ooltewah Vol said:
Anyone who even thinks this should be banned. You have got to be kidding me. Why can't you just understand we are not going to be perfect every game or even every season? It hasn't been that long ago, that we were all saying what a great job he has done with the defense.

Let's just get over it and enjoy that we are heads and tails above last year and be thankful.

So for who ever starts any dumb .com about any of our coaches...GO FIND YOU ANOTHER TEAM!!
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So because some of us disagree with your thoughts, we should be banned?!
 
#133
#133
champyvol said:
what do you think arizona, and they are calling the hog fans classless.
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I'm not exactly sure how I feel right now about Fulmer. I'm torn, because I like him a lot but the results haven't been to my own personal satisfaction.

I see a lot of people talk about how we were outmanned, how we don't have the talent, so why should I be devastated?

Here's why: The losing doesn't bother me as much as the fact that we WERE OUTMANNED, we didn't have the talent. That falls directly on coaching, no matter how you slice it.

I'm just confused, to be honest.
 
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#134
VolinArizona said:
I'm not exactly sure how I feel right now about Fulmer. I'm torn, because I like him a lot but the results haven't been to my own personal satisfaction.

I see a lot of people talk about how we were outmanned, how we don't have the talent, so why should I be devastated?

Here's why: The losing doesn't bother me as much as the fact that we WERE OUTMANNED, we didn't have the talent. That falls directly on coaching, no matter how you slice it.

I'm just confused, to be honest.
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i've met most of the coaches and i really like chavis and trooper. chavis actually years back sat and chatted with me and my buddies for awhile, he is a really nice guy. it still doesn't change my opinion though that he might should step down. the D is terrible. hell i really liked sanders he was a nice guy, but i wasn't sad to see him leave and i was glad that he landed another job at kentucky.
 
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#135
Ooltewah Vol said:

a. i meant national titles. b. any week no way. Just being in the top half isn't good enough. Being in the top half, winning some SEC titles and being in the national title hunt every few years is a different story. we know how 98 turned out. what's happened since.




A: 1
B: Yes any week. Don’t even begin to debate that one you will lose and have to be replaced on the debate team for not winning.
C: You defended my point. We are in the upper half we have played for 4 SEC titles in the Fulmer years. Only Fla has more appearances.
National titles. Let's see who has more Ntl. Championships in the Fulmer Years.... Fla. St which has 2. So that says we have as many Ntl. championships as any other D1 school in the BCS time period, other than Fla. State.
Your hearing but you aren't listening. Just give him his report card say what Fulmer and staff will be judged on and maybe we side with you. Till then thank the good lord above that you were born a big orange fan.
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how many national titles has OSU, FSU, Miami, and so many other teams been in the hunt for going into late november and how many times has tennessee? THE TITLE WAS 8 YEARS AGO... get over that man, it's a moot point.
 
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volfanbill said:
how many national titles has OSU, FSU, Miami, and so many other teams been in the hunt for going into late november and how many times has tennessee? THE TITLE WAS 8 YEARS AGO... get over that man, it's a moot point.
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by the way... there's a team called Southern Cal.. you may have heard of them
 
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#137
Big Vol Nasty said:
I would really love to see how many times this quote has been used in here since the season has started:

"Compared to what we did last year"

Rationalizing, Rationalizing, Rationalizing, Rationalizing, Rationalizing, Rationalizing, Rationalizing, Rationalizing
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That and we won it all in 98!
 
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#138
CHavis is one of the best DC in college football. He has been desimated by injuries. We had little depth to begin with after the horrible recruiting year we had last year. We have almost a completely new Def line. Woulda, coulda, shoulda, and ifs just are living in the past. If Chavis gets canned it will be a dark day in big Orange country. Our def has been great for many many years. Every one has a bad year now and then sometimes you just have to push through it. If our def is horrible year in and year out yeah can'em, but not for 1 year. losing Harrell and inky hurt us badly. you just have to tough through it sometimes.
 
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#140
ruslt said:
CHavis is one of the best DC in college football. He has been desimated by injuries. We had little depth to begin with after the horrible recruiting year we had last year. We have almost a completely new Def line. Woulda, coulda, shoulda, and ifs just are living in the past. If Chavis gets canned it will be a dark day in big Orange country. Our def has been great for many many years. Every one has a bad year now and then sometimes you just have to push through it. If our def is horrible year in and year out yeah can'em, but not for 1 year. losing Harrell and inky hurt us badly. you just have to tough through it sometimes.
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Our defense was great in 2005. It wasn't good in 2004.
 
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#141
Ooltewah Vol said:
a. i meant national titles. b. any week no way. Just being in the top half isn't good enough. Being in the top half, winning some SEC titles and being in the national title hunt every few years is a different story. we know how 98 turned out. what's happened since.




A: 1
B: Yes any week. Don’t even begin to debate that one you will lose and have to be replaced on the debate team for not winning.
C: You defended my point. We are in the upper half we have played for 4 SEC titles in the Fulmer years. Only Fla has more appearances.
National titles. Let's see who has more Ntl. Championships in the Fulmer Years.... Fla. St which has 2. So that says we have as many Ntl. championships as any other D1 school in the BCS time period, other than Fla. State.
Your hearing but you aren't listening. Just give him his report card say what Fulmer and staff will be judged on and maybe we side with you. Till then thank the good lord above that you were born a big orange fan.
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Nebraska has won multiple National Titles during TCHFCATUTK's tenure. If you are going to carry water, at least attempt to get the facts correct.
 
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#143
ruslt said:
CHavis is one of the best DC in college football. He has been desimated by injuries. We had little depth to begin with after the horrible recruiting year we had last year. We have almost a completely new Def line. Woulda, coulda, shoulda, and ifs just are living in the past. If Chavis gets canned it will be a dark day in big Orange country. Our def has been great for many many years. Every one has a bad year now and then sometimes you just have to push through it. If our def is horrible year in and year out yeah can'em, but not for 1 year. losing Harrell and inky hurt us badly. you just have to tough through it sometimes.
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Chavis is a good coach, one of the best, doubtful! I am so tired of hearing that! I don't see to many people knocking on his door for other jobs! Again he is good, not great and certainly not one of the best DCs! I will say he might be one of the best Lb coaches!
 
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#144
hatvol96 said:
Nebraska has won multiple National Titles during TCHFCATUTK's tenure. If you are going to carry water, at least attempt to get the facts correct.
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Not under the BCS format they have not. Notice I said BSC time period. Now that is the facts. To be 100% correct during the BCS Fla St. Only has one so we have as many in the past 8 years as anyone.
 
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#145
Ooltewah Vol said:
Not under the BCS format they have not
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The BCS formula hasn't been in effect for TCHFCATUTK'S entire tenure. In fact, nobody has won multiple BCS titles since the system started in '98. If that's the best you can come up with to fluff your hero, you might just want to avoid raising the issue.
 
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#146
Ooltewah Vol said:
Not under the BCS format they have not. Notice I said BSC time period. Now that is the facts.
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So, the first five years of TCHFCATUTK's tenure are irrelevant? Well, given that he spent those years being Steve Spurrier's personal pinata, I can see how a Fulmerite would like to avoid discussing those seasons.
 
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#147
Ooltewah Vol said:
Not under the BCS format they have not. Notice I said BSC time period. Now that is the facts. To be 100% correct during the BCS Fla St. Only has one so we have as many in the past 8 years as anyone.
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Graet logic. How many BCS bowls have we appeared in during that time frame? See how we rank with the other powers by that measure.
 
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#148
hatvol96 said:
Graet logic. How many BCS bowls have we appeared in during that time frame? See how we rank with the other powers by that measure.
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TWO:
I am not saying all is well in Big Orange country. What I am saying is, it is not time to trade in the program for a new set of coaches. Who is out there that could do a better job over the last eight years? I am not 100% satisfied with where we are, but until we can see who can right the ship. I believe we have smoothed out some of the ruff waters and let's just see what else can be done. It isn't time to go firing Chavis. That was the topic of this thread. This years D has been through some tuff times, and let’s not forget that. Sure we could be better, and I believe Chief will bring us there.
 
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#149
Ooltewah Vol said:
TWO:
I am not saying all is well in Big Orange country. What I am saying is, it is not time to trade in the program for a new set of coaches. Who is out there that could do a better job over the last eight years? I am not 100% satisfied with where we are, but until we can see who can right the ship. I believe we have smoothed out some of the ruff waters and let's just see what else can be done. It isn't time to go firing Chavis. That was the topic of this thread. This years D has been through some tuff times, and let’s not forget that. Sure we could be better, and I believe Chief will bring us there.
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There are at least 15 coaches who would have won more game at Tennessee the last eight years than the man who has been running the show.
 
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