'24 FL EDGE Elias Williams (Mizzou commit)

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Whoever Garner puts out there on D line will produce. D-Line hasn’t been our problem, in fact if our secondary was just good and our linebackers were healthy this group would probably had led the nation in sacks and rushing D. I am not worried about the D line, I am much more worried about getting the secondary up to the top half of the sec. I think our linebacker future looks good. We have lots of talent at d end that should make a huge impact next year. Pierce and Joseph with another year in the weight room could be elite D ends next year if they put the work in. And as far as DT’s, West and Hobbs should make huge strides next year. And folks don’t sleep on Whethersby, before he got hurt they were excited that he was going to contribute. And I still think 1 or 2 that can stay will. Plus we may pick 1 or 2 in the portal.GBO
 
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EdEcEko77 said:
Starting to think RG was never the legendary recruiter and it was more the cabin.
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Rodney Garner is a great Coach AND Recruiter. He’s been both at multiple stops, including this go round here.

All schools that want to play, pay. Did then, do now. We’re no different then or now.

RG continues to get it done. Be happy we have him.
 
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85SugarVol said:
Rodney Garner is a great Coach AND Recruiter. He’s been both at multiple stops, including this go round here.

All schools that want to play, pay. Did then, do now. We’re no different then or now.

RG continues to get it done. Be happy we have him.
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A couple of our younger edge guys look elite and he’s recruited that really well. I’d love to see us land or pickup an elite interior guy, but think he’s done a heck of a job for us. Hopefully some
Of his interior guys keep developing, that’s a tough one to be elite at early on. Grown man spot.
 
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Memphisvol87 said:
A couple of our younger edge guys look elite and he’s recruited that really well. I’d love to see us land or pickup an elite interior guy, but think he’s done a heck of a job for us. Hopefully some
Of his interior guys keep developing, that’s a tough one to be elite at early on. Grown man spot.
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Hobbs was a borderline 5* and top 50 recruit. He was a pretty elite recruit for the interior. He'll play a lot next year so we’ll find out if he can live up to that.

But yeah we need to be bringing in 1-2 guys like him in every class to get to where we want to be.
 
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This season was a fluke. You can’t be serious about football and choose to commit to Missouri. I can maybe get local kids, but if you’re not from that state and have commitable offers from really for real football schools - you don’t pick the place with rocks in their end zone and a stadium that seats 30k people if you’re serious about football.
 
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EdEcEko77 said:
This season was a fluke. You can’t be serious about football and choose to commit to Missouri. I can maybe get local kids, but if you’re not from that state and have commitable offers from really for real football schools - you don’t pick the place with rocks in their end zone and a stadium that seats 30k people if you’re serious about football.
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I hear ya but Mizzou had a great year and I’m sure Drinkwitz is selling the ish out of this season.
 
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EdEcEko77 said:
This season was a fluke. You can’t be serious about football and choose to commit to Missouri. I can maybe get local kids, but if you’re not from that state and have commitable offers from really for real football schools - you don’t pick the place with rocks in their end zone and a stadium that seats 30k people if you’re serious about football.
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I don’t necessarily disagree, but I am sure a variation of that exact “fluke” argument is made by other fanbases about us. We’ll see how they fair next year. Their schedule really isn’t that bad. I could see them going 9-3.
 
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AllVol11717 said:
Hobbs was a borderline 5* and top 50 recruit. He was a pretty elite recruit for the interior. He'll play a lot next year so we’ll find out if he can live up to that.

But yeah we need to be bringing in 1-2 guys like him in every class to get to where we want to be.
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Hobbs saw a lot more action down the stretch. West I think will make a good jump between this year and his junior year. He has started emerging at times this year. I think both of these 2 have a big upside over the next 2-3 years. Both have great frames to keep growing. GBO
 
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EdEcEko77 said:
Starting to think RG was never the legendary recruiter and it was more the cabin.
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Yeah cause we don’t have some of the best edge rushers in the nation and will likely be one of the top in the nation next year with all the young talent growing up.
 
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Smyrna ATL Vol said:
Yeah cause we don’t have some of the best edge rushers in the nation and will likely be one of the top in the nation next year with all the young talent growing up.
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rg will always be a recruiter. but for some reason this program seems to always end up 'one of my favorite schools'. hard to argue with their results in 24, but I still think we have some eye glaring deficiencies on the defensive line, and in secondary.

how do we get to that next level?
 
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Smyrna ATL Vol said:
Yeah cause we don’t have some of the best edge rushers in the nation and will likely be one of the top in the nation next year with all the young talent growing up.
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you mean all the edge rushers Mike Ekeler is listed as the primary recruiter for?

Don’t get mad.

RG is a great coach but it seems he isn’t the recruiter he once was. He’s old school and kids are different.

At Auburn he routinely landed elite defensive lineman. Even Tennessee guys we pushed hard for we seemed to always lose to Auburn. We attributed that to RG. All im saying is it most likely was the shady cabin antics.

In 2022 we landed only 1 blue chip dlineman. Tyre West. Then two three stars (Jordan Phillips who has transferred out, and Jayson Jenkins who we all forgot was still on the team).

In 2023 we landed one blue chip in Hobbs and two three stars (Weathersby and Nate Robinson).

In 2024, we have Lindstrom and Heard as the only true DL commits.

Compare this with his classes at Auburn.

Because of this, we have a serious lack of depth along the DL and have to hope some guys elect to stay for their 5th or 6th year.

I’d never suggest RG isn’t a great coach and tbh he’s the coach I have the most trust/confidence on our staff by far. But the whole notion that he’s this elite recruiter hasn’t proven to be correct. Results have shown this so far.
 
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Jackcrevol said:
rg will always be a recruiter. but for some reason this program seems to always end up 'one of my favorite schools'. hard to argue with their results in 24, but I still think we have some eye glaring deficiencies on the defensive line, and in secondary.

how do we get to that next level?
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Where are their holes on the DL?

Edge will be elite.
SDE good
Interior will be good (Hobbs, Weathersby, Eason, Duncan, etc.) I assume many of these young guys will grow into tackles.

Secondary and LB has been lack of development and not recruiting well enough. Although last years class seemed to have brought in some good players that just need time.
 
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EdEcEko77 said:
you mean all the edge rushers Mike Ekeler is listed as the primary recruiter for?

Don’t get mad.

RG is a great coach but it seems he isn’t the recruiter he once was. He’s old school and kids are different.

At Auburn he routinely landed elite defensive lineman. Even Tennessee guys we pushed hard for we seemed to always lose to Auburn. We attributed that to RG. All im saying is it most likely was the shady cabin antics.

In 2022 we landed only 1 blue chip dlineman. Tyre West. Then two three stars (Jordan Phillips who has transferred out, and Jayson Jenkins who we all forgot was still on the team).

In 2023 we landed one blue chip in Hobbs and two three stars (Weathersby and Nate Robinson).

In 2024, we have Lindstrom and Heard as the only true DL commits.

Compare this with his classes at Auburn.

Because of this, we have a serious lack of depth along the DL and have to hope some guys elect to stay for their 5th or 6th year.

I’d never suggest RG isn’t a great coach and tbh he’s the coach I have the most trust/confidence on our staff by far. But the whole notion that he’s this elite recruiter hasn’t proven to be correct. Results have shown this so far.
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Bahahaha

The rushers Ekeler is listed on 247 for. Bahahah

Why don’t you ask most who recruited them? West, Pearce, Bradley, etc.
 
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Smyrna ATL Vol said:
Bahahaha

The rushers Ekeler is listed on 247 for. Bahahah

Why don’t you ask most who recruited them? West, Pearce, Bradley, etc.
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“Bahahahah” he said. Twice.

Dang. You got me there. Hard to argue with such an intelligent and well thought out response.

Guess we’ll just have to agree to disagree.
 
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