‘23 FL OT Francis Mauigoa (Miami commit)

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Joe Dirt said:
The people policing the board and telling everyone else how to feel are worse than the obvious trolls. Yeah some people are taking it too far, but disappointment is the number one emotion in recruiting. Give ‘em a day or two to cool off. “Some of y’all shouldn’t be following recruiting,” give me a break. This is a fan forum. Alabama misses on a recruit and their fans start punching their sister wives. We just come on VN and punch air. That’s what it’s for.
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So you are a proponent of the National Inquirer news methodology. I will see your Tea Baggers and Tree Killers and raise you one Trailer Trash two Mattess Burners. Oh well...... Not a contest I want our fan base to engage in.
 
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People over reacting and showing ignorance here. Spyre targets 25-30 million spent per year on athletics, that’s far from an average NIL. That will pretty much trump most major programs. You’re not however going to outspend a billionaire who wants a Olineman.

To put into perspective, A&M NIL spent somewhere less that 30 million last year on its number 1 class of all time which had 8 five star players in it. This isn’t a one year deal either we need to be prepared to compete every year with these deals. Instead of huge investment into a couple of players we need quantity and quality of talent and how we invest in that talent. In other words why piss away a large percentage of your budget on one player?
 
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DaddyChad said:
People over reacting and showing ignorance here. Spyre targets 25-30 million spent per year on athletics, that’s far from an average NIL. That will pretty much trump most major programs. You’re not however going to outspend a billionaire who wants a Olineman.

To put into perspective, A&M NIL spent somewhere less that 30 million last year on its number 1 class of all time which had 8 five star players in it. This isn’t a one year deal either we need to be prepared to compete every year with these deals. Instead of huge investment into a couple of players we need quantity and quality of talent and how we invest in that talent. In other words why piss away a large percentage of your budget on one player?
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You’re ruining our narrative with your ridiculous common sense...
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If the $4 million is correct then he simply isn't worth that kind of money having never played a down. He looks like a good OL. But OL is probably the most difficult position to evaluate. They seldom even at IMG play opposing players that are on their level physically. How many 4/5* OL busts has UT seen over the years? How many really good or even great OL's do we see in CFB each year that don't have a "blue chip" on the roster?

Miami just spent money they can't spend on someone else. That is going to be part of the NIL game going forward. You might even "bid a player up" to improve your chances of getting someone else.

Coaching and leadership are going to be even MORE important in the NIL era. Can you coach them up? Can you keep your own roster focused when one guy is getting big checks and another who is just as valuable to the team isn't?

We don't know how that will play out. However what we can say with a high degree of certainty is that as it does... there will be some really good players in the portal. They'll remember who recruited them the right way.
 
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chattavol420 said:
We play in the sec and are one of the most storied programs with impeccable grounds and facilities. We also have a young spectacular play calling head coach and imo by far the most exciting qb recruit of the class (who also happens to be of somoan descent). To me…mauigoa is the loser in this scenario. Miami? If it had been bama or uga. Or even USC ok. But crazy he choose Miami.
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I think he chose them because of their history with O-Lineman. I do think money played a big part of it, but if it were me and the coaches had proven success with my specific position group, I would’ve gone with that route. It’s the same reason why Arch chose Texas with Sark.
 
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bigl3327 said:
I would not want some of the posters here as teammates late in the 4th quarter, down by 6 after giving up an interception. Some of yall do not handle adversity well at all.
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I can tell you really understand life… certain people in life get it… it’s always 2 ways to handle adversity you can cry and pout and fold or you can tough through it with the right mentality… for 1 your favorite college team missing on a recruit is not adversity it’s never the huge deal people like to make it it’s ppl going through real adversity if you ever been through something hard you understand this message board stuff is just fun… for 2 we are still recruiting very well in this class even with our misses people act like a few misses undo all of the ones we hit on… apologies bigl this not directed towards you at all just wanted to piggy back… I hate that whoa is me attitude people get especially when it’s about missing a recruit… the UT program is so much bigger than 1 player… like why have a hobby that makes you so negative all the time some of y’all need to take up knitting or something lol…
 
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DaddyChad said:
People over reacting and showing ignorance here. Spyre targets 25-30 million spent per year on athletics, that’s far from an average NIL. That will pretty much trump most major programs. You’re not however going to outspend a billionaire who wants a Olineman.

To put into perspective, A&M NIL spent somewhere less that 30 million last year on its number 1 class of all time which had 8 five star players in it. This isn’t a one year deal either we need to be prepared to compete every year with these deals. Instead of huge investment into a couple of players we need quantity and quality of talent and how we invest in that talent. In other words why piss away a large percentage of your budget on one player?
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I am HOPING that we use the money put back in the war chest to be prepared to add SOME to a few other players offers and be the difference maker for them. The higher up the staff board the better.
 
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BigALWiLson said:
This recruitment is done. Why yall still here ? Next man up
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Dang, I missed the signing ceremony. There is always the possibility that coach could insult his family or the NIL funder does not live up to their deal. Not counting on it, but never say never. If the kid did not lie to our staff along the way I would be good with diving back in down the road. I feel confident our group is reading and following a lawful path, don't know about UM's. I do expect some clarification in the courts on what constitutes EARNING with their NIL vs being paid for mere attendance and on field performance.
 
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Sub Par SUPERSTAR said:
Cristobal is killing it on the recruiting trail, not gonna lie, just stuffing coaches into lockers at this point. He's way more of a problem then I cared to admit, and he is going to make recruiting SoFla an absolute pain in the ass as long as he's there.
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he's not the problem, its ruiz, he's the problem
 
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Interesting take/reporting from Basilio that I hadn't seen before on what decided this recruitment:

It would be easy to get on here today or on my show today and blame Tennessee's NIL turn as the reason Tennessee lost this well thought of prospect. It would also be lazy. Sure Miami has the NIL apparatus in full force and they're spending like drunken sailors, but identity played a part here as well.

I talked with a source at Tennessee last night and they feel like the pull of Miami assistant Joe Salave'a (Associate head coach/Run game coordinator/Defensive line coach) was just too strong to overcome. Salave'a is a Polynesian recruiting prince who was adroitly brought to The U by Mario Cristobal from Oregon. In Eugene, Salvae'a was extremely successful with players that share his nationality. Where I come from this is called identity and intelligent. It's a blow to the Vols for sure but not the end of the world. Perhaps Josh Heupel will consider finding his own Joe Salave'a if in fact he feels so inclined.

The Tony Basilio Show
 
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AresTheVol said:
he's not the problem, its ruiz, he's the problem
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Yep. This. Told the NCAA to go F themselves and he’ll buy whoever he wants.

He is by textbook a single booster buying players for a team. It doesn’t get anymore clear than that this is what the ncaa said couldn’t happen. But Ruiz is an attorney so I would imagine he has all sides covered in doing this. NCAA is an absolute joke.
 
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Everyone already knew that; but why act like Ruiz was not the major factor? Salave'a was there the whole time. He was at Oregon. Why didn't basil report that 3 days, 3 weeks, or 3 months ago? Meh.

Edit: nv. I don't want to be in this.
 
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Dudley Smith said:
Interesting take/reporting from Basilio that I hadn't seen before on what decided this recruitment:

It would be easy to get on here today or on my show today and blame Tennessee's NIL turn as the reason Tennessee lost this well thought of prospect. It would also be lazy. Sure Miami has the NIL apparatus in full force and they're spending like drunken sailors, but identity played a part here as well.

I talked with a source at Tennessee last night and they feel like the pull of Miami assistant Joe Salave'a (Associate head coach/Run game coordinator/Defensive line coach) was just too strong to overcome. Salave'a is a Polynesian recruiting prince who was adroitly brought to The U by Mario Cristobal from Oregon. In Eugene, Salvae'a was extremely successful with players that share his nationality. Where I come from this is called identity and intelligent. It's a blow to the Vols for sure but not the end of the world. Perhaps Josh Heupel will consider finding his own Joe Salave'a if in fact he feels so inclined.

The Tony Basilio Show
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Basilio is completely and entirely FOS. Always has been. Sooner people stop giving this carnival barker their attention the better for them and the program.
 
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AresTheVol said:
he's not the problem, its ruiz, he's the problem
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It's a mix of both. Ruiz is the the money man, but I'd have a hard time believing they'd be doing all of this if Diaz was still there. Miami had absolutely zero going for them before Mario, just a dead fish of a program, now they're trendy and cool again, I have to believe that's mostly because of Cristobal.
 
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Sub Par SUPERSTAR said:
It's a mix of both. Ruiz is the the money man, but I'd have a hard time believing they'd be doing all of this if Diaz was still there. Miami had absolutely zero going for them before Mario, just a dead fish of a program, now they're trendy and cool again, I have to believe that's mostly because of Cristobal.
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Mauigoa isn't going to Miami without Ruiz doing what he's doing
 
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