Florida in trouble

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Lawrence Wright said:
Ron Zook's worst year still resulted in a winning record and a bowl bid.

UT's worst years resulted in losing seasons and home losses to Wyoming.

Many will consider UT's 2010 season to be successful if they can duplicate Zook's performance at UF.
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Yeah Florida has been the superior program for 2 decades now. Shocking news!! I think ill stick with tennessee anyway
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
Ron Zook's worst year still resulted in a winning record and a bowl bid.

UT's worst years resulted in losing seasons and home losses to Wyoming.

Many will consider UT's 2010 season to be successful if they can duplicate Zook's performance at UF.
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so?
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
I was responding to EZE, but thanks for chiming in.

It's like that Nike commercial from a few years back. But instead of "Our best is better than your best" (the 90s), it's more like "Our worst is as good as it gets for you" (the 10s). :)
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But it isnt. Tennessee has 7 undefeated seasons, Florida 0. Your best is not better than our best.
 
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BigOrangePassion1 said:
But it isnt. Tennessee has 7 undefeated seasons, Florida 0. Your best is not better than our best.
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Congrats on that...it will help you get through the 2010 season. If UF wins another 3 NCs with one loss, I'm more than okay with that.

Unless you're in your 80s, UT's most successful period in CFB was the 1990s, and UF was better during that time. What happened before electricity and integration really doesn't concern me.
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
Congrats on that...it will help you get through the 2010 season. If UF wins another 3 NCs with one loss, I'm more than okay with that.
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but this isn't the argument that you were giving me just 2 or three posts earlier.

Zook's ineptitude is immaterial to UF football in 2010, as is Neyland's to Tennessee.
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
Congrats on that...it will help you get through the 2010 season. If UF wins another 3 NCs with one loss, I'm more than okay with that.

Unless you're in your 80s, UT's most successful period in CFB was the 1990s, and UF was better during that time. What happened before electricity and integration really doesn't concern me.
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Geeez, get over your self
 
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BigPapaVol said:
but this isn't the argument that you were giving me just 2 or three posts earlier.

Zook's ineptitude is immaterial to UF football in 2010, as is Neyland's to Tennessee.
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It wasn't for you, it was for EZE who questioned another poster about UF's alleged "sustained excellence" over the past 20 years. UF is the only SEC school without a losing season over that period. I don't know if you'd call that excellence, but it's definitely sustained success. Throw out the Zook years and the term excellence fits somewhat better over that timeframe.

BOP brought up the undefeated season stuff, which is great, but irrelevant as far as I'm concerned. I don't lose any sleep over that. Boise State, Tulane, Utah and Auburn all had undefeated seasons recently, with no rings or crystal footballs to show for it. Besides, all but one of UT's undefeated seasons came before 1938....again, congrats on that.
 
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People also need to account for the job Zook did with a team where Spurrier had basically stopped recruiting the prior 2-3 years and left the cupboard awfully bare for whoever came in and took over. We basically had no offensive line.

That combined with the absurdly high expectations Spurrier had built up over the years led several established coaches to pass on it. Zook came in and did a fair job with what he had. He also recruited lights out and set up the next staff to win even more. And they did.

Dooley is in a somewhat comparable position, minus the expectations. He will be given the time to recruit and re-build the team, and most fans seem accepting of the fact that it won't be this year or next before real results are seen. I think that's one reason that Dooley is going to be given far greater reign to do as he sees fit when it comes to things like discipline and style of football than someone coming in to run a team with an established identity.
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
I was responding to EZE, but thanks for chiming in.

It's like that Nike commercial from a few years back. But instead of "Our best is better than your best" (the 90s), it's more like "Our worst is as good as it gets for you" (the 10s). :)
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Why be an ass to Vol fans on a Vol message board half the time, and be nice as hell the other half? Why cant you be the exception to the rule, and be friendly ALL the time?
 
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This has turned into a praise Florida forum . We all know they are tools and think there better than the rest of the world but this is getting pretty sickning
 
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VoL BaLL 777 said:
Why be an ass to Vol fans on a Vol message board half the time, and be nice as hell the other half? Why cant you be the exception to the rule, and be friendly ALL the time?
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Because the situation doesn't always call for it, for starters.

The majority of posters here understand exactly what UF is up against with the Pouncey situation. In the absence of any additional information, UF vacates a bowl game...no big whoop in the overall scheme of things.
 
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Meanwhile, in Kentucky there are some basketball coaches sitting around reading this and saying, "$100,000!? Just a stinking $100,000? Bwaaa-haaa-haaa!!!"
 
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3 Rocky Top Cove said:
Meanwhile, in Kentucky there are some basketball coaches sitting around reading this and saying, "$100,000!? Just a stinking $100,000? Bwaaa-haaa-haaa!!!"
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That dollar amount is a headscratcher. $100k is a lot of money for a guard.

He was drafted near the end of the first round. I'm guessing he gets maybe $8-10M guaranteed over 3-4 years. The agent's take, six percent of that is $600k best case over the life of the contract. That seems like a lot of risk for that kind of return.

I can see it for a QB like Sam Bradford, but a guy whose top end is mid first round, doesn't make much sense.
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
Little known fact:

Both Pounceys have tattoos across their chests that read "MY FIRST MILLION".

Looks like Maurkice was 10% of the way there when we played Cincinnati.
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Since it's a "little known fact", you must have intimate knowledge of the chest tatoos on both the Pouncey boys huh. Only slightly weird, not that there's anything wrong with that.
 
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UT IE 95 said:
Since it's a "little known fact", you must have intimate knowledge of the chest tatoos on both the Pouncey boys huh. Only slightly weird, not that there's anything wrong with that.
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Note to VolBall 777: In situations like this it's okay to be an ass.
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
That dollar amount is a headscratcher. $100k is a lot of money for a guard.

He was drafted near the end of the first round. I'm guessing he gets maybe $8-10M guaranteed over 3-4 years. The agent's take, six percent of that is $600k best case over the life of the contract. That seems like a lot of risk for that kind of return.

I can see it for a QB like Sam Bradford, but a guy whose top end is mid first round, doesn't make much sense.
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I'm with you on this one. The types of players getting this type of cash or benefits are top 10 guys. I don't really understand why such an investment risk would be made with Pouncey.... :blink:
 
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UT IE 95 said:
Since it's a "little known fact", you must have intimate knowledge of the chest tatoos on both the Pouncey boys huh. Only slightly weird, not that there's anything wrong with that.
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I see it turns you on to go down that road....doesn't it sailor....

Actually there was a picture floating around one of the CFB blogs of the Pounceys and another guy thugging it up with their shirts off and pants sagging.
 
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