Football Scoop reporting Helton is out

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Is that why Pruitt is here ? What about Kirby ? Where is their life time commitment to Bama ? If the OC does well enough that someone comes after them as a HC well good for them. Winning will attract the next great OC here same as the way it works at Bama.
 
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I don't get the love for Freeze. His time at Ole Miss was smoke and mirrors- if you are cheating at the level he was, you can't really look at the results and learn anything from it. Plus, didn't he have a losing record to Memphis? I just don't get Freeze.
 
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Weezer said:
I agree that Friend had it tough, but if anyone should be a scapegoat, it's him. His unit was by far our worse. I understand he had little to work with, but it is what it is. The biggest drawback of our offense was line play. I'm not sure you can argue around that.
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Can't risk getting rid of him and creating doubt for a big possible incoming class of OL.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
What makes you think Pruitt will get fired?
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The same high level reasons the last 2 got fired.

Dude burned a timeout today because he couldn't do the arithmetic fast enough in his head to find out he should go for two. It took us half a season to figure out what a legal punt formation is.

He ripped into our lame duck OCs ass because he tried to run a two minute drill with a lead. Which we ended up scoring 7 on. That should tell you everything. Our rookie OC does the obvious thing and gets yelled at by our clueless head coach.

Whatever. Everyone is right. Our talent pales in comparison to the juggernaught of 2 star instate recruits that is Vandy. The Kentucky and Auburn games were just the result of Pruitts coaching prowess, and not just his inability to stifle any chance we had to win with like all the other weeks.

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And to answer your question, I'm not suggesting he gets fired any time soon, or even hoping he does.

Best to let him recruit decently and underperform, and hope someone comes along that knows how to go get a winning coach.
 
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Ten_Titans said:
The same high level reasons the last 2 got fired.

Dude burned a timeout today because he couldn't do the arithmetic fast enough in his head to find out he should go for two. It took us half a season to figure out what a legal punt formation is.

He ripped into our lame duck OCs ass because he tried to run a two minute drill with a lead. Which we ended up scoring 7 on. That should tell you everything. Our rookie OC does the obvious thing and gets yelled at by our clueless head coach.

Whatever. Everyone is right. Our talent pales in comparison to the juggernaught of 2 star instate recruits that is Vandy. The Kentucky and Auburn games were just the result of Pruitts coaching prowess, and not just his inability to stifle any chance we had to win with like all the other weeks.
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So you are comparing Pruitt to Butch and Dooley? Do you not know the difference between all 3?
 
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jpope9 said:
do you honestly think the OC has no say in blocking scheme?
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Oh absolutely. But you can scheme it so simple a 4 yr old can do it but if you don't have the talent then there's nothing to be done. What OL do you think would have any shot at being a starter for a currently ranked top 5 team?? My vote is 0, no one.
 
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DC_Vol said:
Seems like Pruitt will get some more time despite a **** season.
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Exactly what kind of season were you expecting? Were yoy one of those that expected 8 +/-1 wins? If you were you set yourself up for disappointment.
 
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m1al said:
Exactly what kind of season were you expecting? Were yoy one of those that expected 8 +/-1 wins? If you were you set yourself up for disappointment.
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"We knew we were gonna get pounded by Vandy all year!"

-VN for 8 months.
 
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shotgun83 said:
Oh absolutely. But you can scheme it so simple a 4 yr old can do it but if you don't have the talent then there's nothing to be done. What OL do you think would have any shot at being a starter for a currently ranked top 5 team?? My vote is 0, no one.
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We didn't play a top 5 team, we played Vandy.

The mental gymnastics yall will jump through to blame a poorly coached team on talent is impressive.
 
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Volhoops said:
What is the issue there? Do you want someone who is so mediocre that nobody wants them ? We can't hire based upon a life time commitment to UT.
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Not looking for a lifetime commitment but at most you get 2 years and maybe only one out of Freeze and you are back at square one again.

And before you mention bama and saban, he is the only coach that has ever had success plugging and playing coordinators every year so he is the exception, not the rule.
 
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willinhf said:
Head coach to head coach both in P5 conferences. Lateral move. But yeah, I believe he was the last coach at UT to voluntarily leave.
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I think also the D coordinator that was pretty good under Dooley. Went to Washington I think.

Can’t recall his name this second.
 
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DC_Vol said:
I’ve tried to explain it but let me try a different way. Let’s assume we’re not talking about Tennessee athletics where you may feel like we’re just playing with Monopoly money.

When I have to let someone go at work, and I am their manager, it reflects poorly on me.

I hired that person meaning I did the vetting on the front end and made sure we were on the same page about goals, expectations, experience, etc.

I am ultimately responsible for developing them and getting the most out of them. And ensuring they are contributing to the goals of the organization.

Now sometimes I still have to let someone go, but the question that will ultimately be asked of me is how did you let that happen? It was my job to hire and develop a good fit.

It’s just the real world, Fox, and it’s not different for JP.
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You're also forgetting that it is your job to hold them to the same standards as everyone else and to promote accountability. Do everything you can to make them successful, but than once you have, you hold them accountable
 
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