Foster about to throw us under the bus on ESPN...

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volfanbill said:
Because he's trying to fix a broken system. Good for him.
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It may be broken in some ways, but I've attended UT and let me tell you our players aren't hurting. Gibbs hall is very nice. They have the best food on campus. They are totally pampered now with the new football complex that just opened. They get tons of free gear from Adidas. They get grades practically handed to them a lot of the time. They live a good life I promise. Now, I agree that all of these guys should be able to sell their memorabilia for money, but to say all these guys need salaries is maniacal. If teams were allowed to pay players, it will kill the small schools in college football. No way, even with a set salary across the board, that a team like Ohio could afford to pay players like OSU could, even with a constant salary across the board. Foster might be trying to help college players out, but in the same time he's bringing negative publicity to UT. It's never a good thing to see UT's name in the same sentence as cheating, no matter the cause. Plus, most people that I've seen report or talk about the situation of Foster's don't believe the story fully adds up, which in my eyes it doesn't. The only thing Foster has done is raise question as to who else UT has paid over the years with Fulmer, etc. I've never been a Foster supporter, as I feel he laid down his senior year here to avoid injury, among other things, but this tops all the dumb things he's either said or done. UT to Foster has become a means to end for his agenda, whether that agenda is motivation to be a great RB because he fells "people didn't understand him here" or helping future college players get paid. He's just selfish, and if people are to blind to see these things and think Foster is a great VFL then the word VFL has lost total meaning.
 
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volfanbill said:
So what if they have families or when the cafeteria is closed or they need to dress up for something but all they've been given for free was some adidas climalite t shirts?
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IMO the school has no responsibilities to the kids families. When these kids graduate with a FREE four year degree they and their families will be set for life!

I don't see anything wrong with the coaches buying the kids tacos and don't think the NCAA will touch that with a ten foot pole but paying the Kids to play isn't the right move.
 
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volfanbill said:
So Fulmer deserved millions while Foster deserved cafeteria food, athletic gear and an education. Fantastic.
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He needed those millions to pay those fantastic players that won all those games from 2005-2008...






Sarcasm ... for those that do not get it.
 
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volfanbill said:
So what if they have families or when the cafeteria is closed or they need to dress up for something but all they've been given for free was some adidas climalite t shirts?
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So player chooses to get married and have kids while playing college football, knowing the struggle he has before these choices are made which makes the situation exponentially more difficult, and this becomes the schools problem?
He should get "more" than the other players that are making better choices trying to build something of their lives, not making stupid unnecessary decisions like start a family in that condition?
 
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Thinking out loud.......Taco Foster had a penchant for laying the ball on the ground in key situations of some big games......could he have been involved in a point shaving scheme? Took cash for losing games?

It makes a lot of sense when you look at when he fumbled, against whom he fumbled, and the end result....afterall, he said he was starving.
 
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Why can't college students just live like college students?

Besides, Arian's family could have sent him money when he wanted. They weren't poor.
 
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keckjm said:
It may be broken in some ways, but I've attended UT and let me tell you our players aren't hurting. Gibbs hall is very nice. They have the best food on campus. They are totally pampered now with the new football complex that just opened. They get tons of free gear from Adidas. They get grades practically handed to them a lot of the time. They live a good life I promise. Now, I agree that all of these guys should be able to sell their memorabilia for money, but to say all these guys needs salaries is maniacal. If teams were allowed to pay players, it will kill the small schools in college football. No way, even with a set salary across the board, that a team like Ohio could afford to pay players like OSU could, even with a constant salary across the board. Foster might be trying to help college players out, but in the same time he's bringing negative publicity to UT. It's never a good thing to see UT's name in the same sentence as cheating, no matter the cause. Plus, most people that I've seen report or talk about the situation of Foster's don't believe the story fully adds up, which in my eyes it doesn't. The only thing Foster has done is raise question as to who else UT has paid over the years with Fulmer, etc. I've never been a Foster supporter, as I feel he laid down his senior year here to avoid injury, among other things, but this tops all the dumb things he's either said or done. UT to Foster has become a means to end for his agenda, whether that agenda is motivation to be a great RB because he fells "people didn't understand him here" or helping future college players get paid. He's just selfish, and if people are to blind to see these things and think Foster is a great VFL then the word VFL has lost total meaning.
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As a current student at UT, I mostly agree with that. However, I've had classes with some of the players and I'm pretty sure that they arn't being handed any grades.

Also, let's not all get carried away with this free education/food stuff. These athletes are trading their skill to the university for two things.

1) An college education
2) A chance to be coached up to get into the NFL.
 
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To be honest, I always supported Foster....but that boy was lucky to be at UT. He wasn't very highly recruited coming out of HS. Our coaches were at one of his games scouting another player when they noticed him. We gave him a chance to play in the SEC and he recieved a free education. Whatever his food situation was, I'm sure it was probably better than 90% of the other students at UT. "Broke college kid" is not a new term, I certainly had my fair share of Ramen while a student, I'm sure a lot of other posters on this board did too. He really has always been a drama queen, it's unfortunate that he plays victim rather than appreciate what he got....something I would have been proud to receive. Screw being paid, I would pay money to run out through the T!
 
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Just maybe Aaron's getting too big for his britches? Not enough attention with endorsements? hmmmmm?
He ain't all dat!

GO VOLS..
GO BIG ORANGE .. :rock:
 
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keckjm said:
It may be broken in some ways, but I've attended UT and let me tell you our players aren't hurting. Gibbs hall is very nice. They have the best food on campus. They are totally pampered now with the new football complex that just opened. They get tons of free gear from Adidas. They get grades practically handed to them a lot of the time. They live a good life I promise. Now, I agree that all of these guys should be able to sell their memorabilia for money, but to say all these guys needs salaries is maniacal. If teams were allowed to pay players, it will kill the small schools in college football. No way, even with a set salary across the board, that a team like Ohio could afford to pay players like OSU could, even with a constant salary across the board. Foster might be trying to help college players out, but in the same time he's bringing negative publicity to UT. It's never a good thing to see UT's name in the same sentence as cheating, no matter the cause. Plus, most people that I've seen report or talk about the situation of Foster's don't believe the story fully adds up, which in my eyes it doesn't. The only thing Foster has done is raise question as to who else UT has paid over the years with Fulmer, etc. I've never been a Foster supporter, as I feel he laid down his senior year here to avoid injury, among other things, but this tops all the dumb things he's either said or done. UT to Foster has become a means to end for his agenda, whether that agenda is motivation to be a great RB because he fells "people didn't understand him here" or helping future college players get paid. He's just selfish, and if people are to blind to see these things and think Foster is a great VFL then the word VFL has lost total meaning.
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Exactly right. We all make money for someone else....we get paid much less than we contribute to the bottom line. It's a fact of life...philosophy majors can argue wrong and right....but reality is reality. He makes his own decisions. Fulmer earned which ever vehicle he drives..supply and demand...don't recall seeing many Arian Foster jerseys at games. Im sure Foster has a few rides now and prob hasn't given his old coach a sincere thank you for his generosity. Just another example of how one guy constantly talks to hear himself talk......no one listens until it screws everyone else. I wish the guy the best in his future endeavors...he started as an "under valued commodity" and will finish the same. Fulmer will sit back and enjoy the rest of his days fat and wealthy. Foster....he's no more intelligent than the other bankrupt players that preceded him. But what do I know....I've never made a million
 
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VolAce said:
To be honest, I always supported Foster....but that boy was lucky to be at UT. He wasn't very highly recruited coming out of HS. Our coaches were at one of his games scouting another player when they noticed him. We gave him a chance to play in the SEC and he recieved a free education. Whatever his food situation was, I'm sure it was probably better than 90% of the other students at UT. "Broke college kid" is not a new term, I certainly had my fair share of Ramen while a student, I'm sure a lot of other posters on this board did too. He really has always been a drama queen, it's unfortunate that he plays victim rather than appreciate what he got....something I would have been proud to receive. Screw being paid, I would pay money to run out through the T!
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I am for student-athletes getting paid, but I do think it opens up a can of worms when deciding a formula on if athletes from revenue producing sports get paid more or if BCS level programs get paid more than other programs. With that being said, to posit Arian as a "normal college kid" isn't accurate. I had my fair share of Ramen noodles weeks in college too, but I was not literally making my school millions of dollars during that same time. Something needs to be done.
 
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SmokeyX said:
As a current student at UT, I mostly agree with that. However, I've had classes with some of the players and I'm pretty sure that they arn't being handed any grades.

Also, let's not all get carried away with this free education/food stuff. These athletes are trading their skill to the university for two things.

1) An college education
2) A chance to be coached up to get into the NFL.
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They get lots of help in class, LOTS. I've seen guys get straight lay outs from teachers as to exactly what to study in office hours. They have tutors for their needs, and they have special sit down times where they get one on one time with a proven, special trained tutor. They may not take the test for them, but when all these people say look study this exactly and you will be fine it makes school a lot easier. Most their tutors have had these classes, and have relationships with the teachers. They know how to make things easy for the less academically gifted athletes. They may sale their body to UT, but it isn't for free. A lot of these guys would never come close to graduating if it wasn't for UT, and without a degree of some sorts it's hard to survive out there.
 
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VeryBest said:
I am for student-athletes getting paid, but I do think it opens up a can of worms when deciding a formula on if athletes from revenue producing sports get paid more or if BCS level programs get paid more than other programs. With that being said, to posit Arian as a "normal college kid" isn't accurate. I had my fair share of Ramen noodles weeks in college too, but I was not literally making my school millions of dollars during that same time. Something needs to be done.
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Foster wasn't making UT millions, Fulmer was. Fulmer recruited the guys, and Fulmer got paid to coached them. Life isn't fair, but that doesn't mean if I bust my butt and become a doctor that I should provide for someone who gets a psychology degree and wonders why they can't get a job without going back to school. UT is a means for a lot of these guys to get degrees that quite frankly they couldn't receive without the help that UT provides for them aka tutors for FREE. We live in a society where people look at others and say I should have the right to certain items to be happy, but fail to credit the people who work to get those objects. UT is a provider for student athletes that implements a system that allows players to get a free degrees with FREE help, which I might add cost lots of money for regular students, while bettering themselves in the game they love to play. UT has the best of the best equipment for these guys, and the rehabilitation center where these guys go to get FREE massages and therapy is state of the arc. The therapy and messages they receive weekly cost hundreds on the outside world, and let me tell you those therapist don't work for free. I have no problem with what these guys do with their own possession in terms of selling, but to think we owe them something is crazy. They receive thousands of dollars worth of benefits at UT, and I promise none of our athletes are going hungry. An example of this was at the beginning of two a days when AJ was telling reporters how he couldn't wait to get back to Gibbs hall so he could sleep in his nice bed again. These guys aren't hurting compared to the rest of the student body, I promise.
 
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The jaundiced outlook in post #27 does not represent my thinking at all. Foster's story does strike me as being a little odd, but not too odd. The usual candidates for Stupidest Person of the Year Award claim that Foster is just expressing his own selfishness and seeking attention. Those folks are hopeless, but their foolish talk should be refuted before it resonates with other very stupid people. Foster is a leading RB in the NFL. He has both fame and wealth, earned the hard way. That is by his own hard work and persistence. He does not need attention from this topic.
 
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NO NCAA sanctions will come out of this, you idiots. He got the proper lawyers and paperwork done to where everything he said would could never be pursued by the NCAA, specifically so that way UT was not harmed in any way. Ya'll are really making too damn big of a deal about this.

And I would never blame him for holding a **bit** of a grudge against UT because he only returned for his senior year to help out the team, and the offense screwed his stats... thus diminishing his entire draft stock. He was a 2nd round projection the year before. So yeah, I'd be a little bitter. I don't know how you guys can't see that. But bottom line.... Arian loves UT. Why else would he come back here in the offseason?
 
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All this in an effort to feed the groundswell to pay players. The only way that the players can "fight" the NCAA is if a bunch of pro's come out with a sob story. All this is going to do is F up a bunch of teams for the next 10 years. The pros need to shut the F up and stop trying to "do good". If all the pros (read NFLPA) want the players to get paid, then they need to pony up a couple hundred million a year to do it.
 
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