Fox "News" is Crap

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lawgator1 said:
Another good example.

Its very clever, really. By putting up people they can easily discredit as representative of the left, they delude their viewers into thinking that every Democrat is like Sharpton or Geraldo, when most of us Democrats also roll our eyes at the likes of them.
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but she was elected the first female president/editor-in-chief of the Harvard Law Review in 1976. I thought that carried some serious weight with the Dems :p
 
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lawgator1 said:
You are correct that I don't like them because they are so uber-conservative.

But what I've really been complaining about is not their politics, but their method. And by method I mean intentional distorting of new reports, manipulation of facts, putting up idiots as representatives of the left or all Democrats, etc.

Its not what they stand for that really bothers me -- they can believe what they want --- its the utter disdain for logic and reason, all the while proclaiming that they are the ones who are fair and balanced.

I know you think I feel that way because of the politics, and its my own fault for giving you enough ammunition to make that claim so as to be dismissive of my bigger point. But it really isn't what they are saying that bothers me nearly as much as how they are saying it.
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The same argument you have against George Carlin?

He wasn't intellectual enough for you?
 
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KB5252 said:
and who gives out this award? If what's his name from the old SNL skits (you know the guy that was never funny) has never won that award it can't be legit.
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That's not helping me much. Lately that could be anyone on the show.
 
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worst person in the world is given out by Keith Obamamann at MSNBC. He recently gave the award to Katie Couric after she called out male reporters for being in the tank for Obama.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Come on guys, even those of you on the right have to admit that Fox News is not news -- its just a Republican-based Bush apologist network.

I look and see on this site repeatedly "news stories" that are taken from Fox and which are obviously written to embarass or criticize the Democrat they are based on. They routinely overstate or quote out of context, and its all to advance a conservative agenda.

You may think there is a subtle liberal media bias in the other networks, but Fox is just blatant about it.

Fair and balanced? What a joke!
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Well, don't watch it then. Use your remote and switch to MSNBC, joining about 38 others watching pathetic Keith Overbite and Company!:)
 
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june 10th?

while that's certainly a coup for Olbermann, a narrow victory in a night when he probably lost the overall ratings for all demos.
 
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MG1968 said:
june 10th?

while that's certainly a coup for Olbermann, a narrow victory in a night when he probably lost the overall ratings for all demos.
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what's your point?

mine is that there's a perception on here that nobody watches Olbermann when the facts clearly show that he's quite popular.
 
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And today Drudge has at the top center a news story out of India about some Hindus there are going to send Obama some type of statue.

The Hindu : National : 11-day prayer for Obama’s success


Interesting that Drudge would pick up that story and make it top news ... wonder if there is a concerted effort here, a la Dobson's comment about Obama's "confused theology," to perpetuate concerns that Obama is not who he says he is, religion-wise.

Hmmmmm .....
 
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lawgator1 said:
And today Drudge has at the top center a news story out of India about some Hindus there are going to send Obama some type of statue.

The Hindu : National : 11-day prayer for Obama’s success


Interesting that Drudge would pick up that story and make it top news ... wonder if there is a concerted effort here, a la Dobson's comment about Obama's "confused theology," to perpetuate concerns that Obama is not who he says he is, religion-wise.

Hmmmmm .....
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What do you expect from partisan web sites? What kind of crap are the left-wing sites saying or going to say and/or try to drag up about McCain? I bet I could get on one of those sites right now and find some distortion about McCain/Bush/Rebulicans/etc. You don't have any probem with that, apparently. You should expect nothing less from purely partisan sites.

I'll tell you what is far more disturbing than a partisan site saying or implying something that may be misleading about a candidate - that would be one candidate personally doing that to the other candidate. For example, Obama's speech a couple of days ago where he directly implies that McCain is a racist and and has made race an issue in this election. What a croc. Now that is a disturbing outright lie.
 
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jamesd1628 said:
What do you expect from partisan web sites? What kind of crap are the left-wing sites saying or going to say and/or try to drag up about McCain? I bet I could get on one of those sites right now and find some distortion about McCain/Bush/Rebulicans/etc. You don't have any probem with that, apparently. You should expect nothing less from purely partisan sites.

I'll tell you what is far more disturbing than a partisan site saying or implying something that may be misleading about a candidate - that would be one candidate personally doing that to the other candidate. For example, Obama's speech a couple of days ago where he directly implies that McCain is a racist and and has made race an issue in this election. What a croc. Now that is a disturbing outright lie.
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What are you talking about?
 
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Obama insists race not be used in this campaign! Except for when he needs to refer to it not being used even where it was never used.
 
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I'm more concerned about him wanting to spend us into poverty and raise my taxes than i am about him being black but maybe that is just me.
 
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allvol123 said:
Obama insists race not be used in this campaign! Except for when he needs to refer to it not being used even where it was never used.
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clearly no right thinking individual could possibly disagree with obama on any issue unless they are a racist.
 
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droski said:
I'm more concerned about him wanting to spend us into poverty and raise my taxes than i am about him being black but maybe that is just me.
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Agreed. All sensible people agree. Nobody has heard McCain make race or Obama's funny name an issue in this election. Except, apparently, Obama himself, who said outright that McCain will run his campaign based on Obama's funny name and the fact that he's black. He's calling McCain a racist, pure and simple. And it's just an outright lie.
 
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jamesd1628 said:
Agreed. All sensible people agree. Nobody has heard McCain make race or Obama's funny name an issue in this election. Except, apparently, Obama himself, who said outright that McCain will run his campaign based on Obama's funny name and the fact that he's black. He's calling McCain a racist, pure and simple. And it's just an outright lie.
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Didn't McCain actually protest someone calling him Hussein not too long ago?
 
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jamesd1628 said:
I'll tell you what is far more disturbing than a partisan site saying or implying something that may be misleading about a candidate - that would be one candidate personally doing that to the other candidate. For example, Obama's speech a couple of days ago where he directly implies that McCain is a racist and and has made race an issue in this election. What a croc. Now that is a disturbing outright lie.
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lawgator1 said:
What are you talking about?
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jamesd1628 said:
Here's the quote:

"We know what kind of campaign they're going to run," the Illinois senator said at a fundraising event in Jacksonville, Florida.

"They're going to try to make you afraid of me - 'He's young and inexperienced and he's got a funny name. And did I mention he's black?'"


Here's one link (though I've seen it elsewhere too):

Barack Obama: Republicans will stoke racial fears to stop first black president - Telegraph
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Ummmmm.....

Do you see the problem?
 
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jamesd1628 said:
No. Obama said that McCain would run his campaign based on Obama's funny name and the fact that he's black. Doing that would make McCain a racist. Thus, Obama is calling McCain a racist.
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No matter how you look at it Obama and his camp are certainly trying to imply that McCain is racist. I don't see any other way around that.
 
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jamesd1628 said:
No. Obama said that McCain would run his campaign based on Obama's funny name and the fact that he's black. Doing that would make McCain a racist. Thus, Obama is calling McCain a racist.
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Well, I gather from your response that you do in fact see that there is a significant difference between what you claimed and then the proof you offered to support the claim.



KB5252 said:
No matter how you look at it Obama and his camp are certainly trying to imply that McCain is racist. I don't see any other way around that.
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I haven't seen anything that says or implies that McCain himself is a racist. I'm still waiting to see some evidence of that. And I am especially waiting to see something from Obama that says that McCain is racist. I do not believe that exists.

I've seen plenty of conservative people anticipating that in their writings, I believe in hopes of making race-baiting an issue, even though I haven't seen any actual race-baiting.

About the closest would be that quip by Obama mentioned above by james (actually from what I can see the quote is about a month old, by the way). Obama should not make such statements, I would agree. But that is hardly calling McCain a racist. I would also agree that Obama needs to watch his p's and q's on that, lest he be tagged with the angry black man label attendant to Sharpton, Jackson, and now Rev. Wright. My guess is that he had learned his lesson on that.

I have seen no evidence whatsoever that McCain is a racist. Given the way he talks and acts, I'd be stunned if he was. I think he's an honorable guy and in a sense its too bad for the country that he is running in the environment that he is running in (Bush, gas prices, Iraq war, housing woes, etc.). I think that McCain would make a fine president and I can tell you right now that I imagine that soemthing like 80 % of the country in hindsight would have preferred that McCain had been president in 2001, rather than GWB.
 
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lawgator1 said:
About the closest would be that quip by Obama mentioned above by james (actually from what I can see the quote is about a month old, by the way). Obama should not make such statements, I would agree. But that is hardly calling McCain a racist.
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Then just how on earth would you characterize the comments that explictly say that McCain is going to campaign on the premise that America should be afraid of Obama as president because Obama's black? Does bigot fit better what he's calling McCain?

It is absolutely in Obama's interest to continue with the race garbage because the media hypes him for it and places him on a pedestal for all he's overcome. He will play it until the race is over. He, IMO, is massively overplaying the card, because the GAP doesn't remotely reflect the news media view.

Either way, he's calling McCain a racist unless you have some other explanation for those comments. The fact that they're a month old or that he might have learned from the stupidity isn't germane to the debate.
 
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