Fox "News" is Crap

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lawgator1 said:
I don't quote anybody's talking points.

Ever.





I think what is so annoying about Fox is that they claim in one breath to be fair and objective, and in the next will say something like "Michelle Obama and her racially charged image: Will it be an issue for the campaign?"

I mean its just so obvious. They don't even try to hide it, really.

I just looked on their political page, and the lead story is very critical of Obama, and in all the traditional ways you would expect from the Republicna war machine: Obama is the racist, Obama lies, and Obama does what is politically expedient.

Obama’s Public Financing Reversal Could Widen Playing Field - America’s Election HQ

Never mind saying that he is so popular he can afford to take this tack in the campaign.
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I dont know, maybe because OBAMA LIED!
He said and sponsored legislation to enhance public financing! I dont like the idea of public financing but OBAMA HAS until now. No matter how you spin it he lied.

One of the biggest differences I have seen on this board between Dems and Repubs (I am a independant but conservative) is that the Repubs on here have said critical things about Repubs (Bush and Mcain) but the Dems on here DONT and only act as apologists for their party and elected Dems. You cant even call a lie a lie instead you try to spin it. Liberals talk about being open minded and acceptance but all I have seen from liberals in my life is that acceptance means you agree with them and being open minded means you agree with their point of view as well.
 
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#127
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VolBeef88 said:
I dont know, maybe because OBAMA LIED!
He said and sponsored legislation to enhance public financing! I dont like the idea of public financing but OBAMA HAS until now. No matter how you spin it he lied.

One of the biggest differences I have seen on this board between Dems and Repubs (I am a independant but conservative) is that the Repubs on here have said critical things about Repubs (Bush and Mcain) but the Dems on here DONT and only act as apologists for their party and elected Dems. You cant even call a lie a lie instead you try to spin it. Liberals talk about being open minded and acceptance but all I have seen from liberals in my life is that acceptance means you agree with them and being open minded means you agree with their point of view as well.
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I'm guessing if we gave you the truth serum, you wouldn't say you're an independent.
 
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I'm with you beef. I think it scares me more when I see libs on here failing to see fault when there is clearly fault. I for one call myelf a conservative and I will be the first to call bs when I see it. If BO gets elected I'm afraid that when he screws the pooch the libs will continue to think his poo smells like roses.
 
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tim said:
I'm with you beef. I think it scares me more when I see libs on here failing to see fault when there is clearly fault.
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You go to be joking. You have President Bush who is the most liberal spender then any of us have seen in our lifetime. He's made a mess of U.S. foreign policy that this country will be dealing with for years after he's gone, yet you have people on this board continually defend the guy.

Bush masquerades as a conservative, which clearly in action he's not. Even William Buckley before he died said as much. But good luck trying to convince the Republicans in here of that.

By the way before you start accusing me of being a liberal, I voted for Bush twice, at least I'm willing to admit that was a mistake.
 
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oklavol said:
You go to be joking. You have President Bush who is the most liberal spender then any of us have seen in our lifetime. He's made a mess of U.S. foreign policy that this country will be dealing with for yours after he's gone, yet you have people on this board continually defend the guy.

Bush masquerades as a conservative, which clearly in action he's not. Even William Buckley before he died said as much. But good luck trying to convince the Republicans in here of that.

By the way before you start accusing me of being a liberal, I voted for Bush twice, at least I'm willing to admit that was a mistake.
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I think most people give Bush credit where it's due and blame where it's due. No one on this board (that I've seen) has ever called Bush a conservative, he's not. Yet given the chance, I would certainly vote for Bush over Gore or Kerry in a heartbeat. I'm voting for McCain with gritted teeth because Obama would be worse for the country IMO.

As far as calling you a lib, I see you bash Bush a lot more than any D on here. If you criticise both equally, I have no problem with that.
 
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oklavol said:
You go to be joking. You have President Bush who is the most liberal spender then any of us have seen in our lifetime. He's made a mess of U.S. foreign policy that this country will be dealing with for years after he's gone, yet you have people on this board continually defend the guy.

Bush masquerades as a conservative, which clearly in action he's not. Even William Buckley before he died said as much. But good luck trying to convince the Republicans in here of that.

By the way before you start accusing me of being a liberal, I voted for Bush twice, at least I'm willing to admit that was a mistake.
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Where did that come from? If asked if I agree with GHWB's spending habits the reply is hell no. I was saying that it just seems that when BO or HRC were caught in blatant lies/mistakes the majority of libs on this board and on the news refuse to recognize it as such. They genrally spin it in some way. Whereas when I see bs I'll call it bs.

And I wouldn't call you a liberal if you didn't agree with stupid spending.
 
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oklavol said:
You go to be joking. You have President Bush who is the most liberal spender then any of us have seen in our lifetime. He's made a mess of U.S. foreign policy that this country will be dealing with for years after he's gone, yet you have people on this board continually defend the guy.

Bush masquerades as a conservative, which clearly in action he's not. Even William Buckley before he died said as much. But good luck trying to convince the Republicans in here of that.

By the way before you start accusing me of being a liberal, I voted for Bush twice, at least I'm willing to admit that was a mistake.
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I remember a thread on this board not to long ago where some R's were bashing McCain for his statements on things in NC. Ive seen posts on this site where some R's bashed GWB on spending and other issues.
I have not seen D's do the same to their candidates.
 
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VolBeef88 said:
I remember a thread on this board not to long ago where some R's were bashing McCain for his statements on things in NC. Ive seen posts on this site where some R's bashed GWB on spending and other issues.
I have not seen D's do the same to their candidates.
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and you won't, unless that candidate is Joe Lieberman and he is running to retain his senate seat.
 
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oklavol said:
You go to be joking. You have President Bush who is the most liberal spender then any of us have seen in our lifetime. He's made a mess of U.S. foreign policy that this country will be dealing with for years after he's gone, yet you have people on this board continually defend the guy.

Bush masquerades as a conservative, which clearly in action he's not. Even William Buckley before he died said as much. But good luck trying to convince the Republicans in here of that.
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I'm not sure who you are talking about. Bush has taken more consistent (and deserved) bashing on this board than any other politician. I don't see anyone claiming he's conservative fiscally. Likewise, I don't see anyone broadly defending him. If someone calls him and idiot (meaning he's not at all bright) and a poster points out he's actually not an idiot - I wouldn't call that defending him. It's trying to look at things objectively. He certainly is not dumb (below average intelligence) even if he's made dumb decisions.
 
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oklavol said:
Bush masquerades as a conservative, which clearly in action he's not. Even William Buckley before he died said as much. But good luck trying to convince the Republicans in here of that.
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He's a social conservative, but I think most figured out a long time ago that Bush is no conservative when it comes to spending money.
 
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volsforever27 said:
I think most people give Bush credit where it's due and blame where it's due. No one on this board (that I've seen) has ever called Bush a conservative, he's not. Yet given the chance, I would certainly vote for Bush over Gore or Kerry in a heartbeat. I'm voting for McCain with gritted teeth because Obama would be worse for the country IMO.

As far as calling you a lib, I see you bash Bush a lot more than any D on here. If you criticise both equally, I have no problem with that.
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Really, based on what, his stellar performance?????????

You have to be joking. At least you can admit your cluelessness.

Obama worse for the country? Doubtful. Which is why he is going to win the election. We all wish we had better candidates. The best candidates don't want any part of it. I would have voted for Rudy over Obama and maybe even Bloomberg.

Gore would beat McCain in a landslide.
 
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truefan said:
Really, based on what, his stellar performance?????????

You have to be joking. At least you can admit your cluelessness.

Obama worse for the country? Doubtful. Which is why he is going to win the election. We all wish we had better candidates. The best candidates don't want any part of it. I would have voted for Rudy over Obama and maybe even Bloomberg.

Gore would beat McCain in a landslide.
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For some reason, the country wants to move toward socialism and for the life of me I do not know why....
 
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truefan said:
Really, based on what, his stellar performance?????????

You have to be joking. At least you can admit your cluelessness.

Obama worse for the country? Doubtful. Which is why he is going to win the election. We all wish we had better candidates. The best candidates don't want any part of it. I would have voted for Rudy over Obama and maybe even Bloomberg.

Gore would beat McCain in a landslide.
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Gore is too polarizing! Too many in this country would fear his eco positions versus the welfare of Americans.
 
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utvolpj said:
because it's much less work for the average Joe
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Total, utter BS. You can't come close to explaining this statement. Much less work for the average Joe? You mean the guy assembling cars at Nissan isn't going to have to work as many hours? Or do you mean more welfare is going to be handed out? Which it isn't, BTW, but go ahead and spew your far right rhetoric.
 
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truefan said:
Total, utter BS. You can't come close to explaining this statement. Much less work for the average Joe? You mean the guy assembling cars at Nissan isn't going to have to work as many hours? Or do you mean more welfare is going to be handed out? Which it isn't, BTW, but go ahead and spew your far right rhetoric.
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Seriously, how do you explain the move toward socialism?
 
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