Fox "News" is Crap

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#176
utvolpj said:
but the Dems seem to think you need help balancing out what you see and listen to every day. Good thing the "fairness" doctrine is out there
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Who cares about balance.....every thing is about freedom!

I can be an idiot and think Fox is fair......... who cares?
 
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lawgator1 said:
The two remarkable things about both of these posts are that 1) neither of you disagrees with the premise that both Fox and Drudge manipulate the facts of a report in order to make a story more likely to appeal to conservatives, i.e. to bury or flatly ignore the fact that the pledge was made at the subject school every day except the one day;

and 2) instaed of telling me what's right about Fox and Drudge, you just whine some more about the other liberal media outlets. Even if your characterizations of CNN and MSNBC et. al. were correct, that does not justify mindless loyalty to being told over and over the things you already think.

I mean, if that's all you want, I can do it for you. Here goes.

War is good.
Arabs are evil.
Minorities are lazy and uneducated and most are immoral.
Public schools suck.
The government is trying to take all your money.
If we just gave our kids a little more discipline and fewer condoms, all would be right with the world.
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Actually, they don't manipulate the facts, you think that because of your views, not vice versa. You're free to watch whatever liberal biased network you want, just because I don't watch a network that is dying to get Obama elected doesn't mean I have a narrow view. You have no proof to back up any of your claims, and it's just typical of the posts you make here. I respect your opinions on politics about as much as I do football.

I'm going to save you time and sum up the news you watch:

Bush = bad

Obama = greatest thing since sliced bread.

You can thank me later.
 
#178
#178
truefan said:
To doubt the facts concerning climate change and global warming is nothing but partisan ignorance.

Laugh at the facts all you want. Those who laugh tend to live longer anyway, so laugh away my friend
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Partisan ignorance is rejoicing over the fact that oil is so high. And at thius rate, if you make me laugh any more I'll live to be 100.
 
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allvol123 said:
Just as sometimes I think Obama winning could be a good thing. Have to feel the pinch for people to wake up, kind of thing?
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yep plus I also think it would be a huge blow to our enemies in the Middle East when all the money suddenly vanishes. They have 1 product keeping the whole region afloat and we buy as much as they can produce.

When all crack heads go to rehab, what happens to the dealers?
 
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#186
utvolpj said:
yep plus I also think it would be a huge blow to our enemies in the Middle East when all the money suddenly vanishes. They have 1 product keeping the whole region afloat and we buy as much as they can produce.

When all crack heads go to rehab, what happens to the dealers?
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I can agree with that, short term bad thing, long term good thing. Also, it crushes the environmental wacko movement when the masses start to feel it impact their daily lives.
 
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#188
please post me the link to any article or newstory on fox news or foxnews.com that even IMPLIES that "minorities are lazy and uneducated and most are immoral." Thanks much.
 
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#191
truefan said:
Who is rejoicing over the high oil prices?
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allvol123 said:
The environmental nuts.
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utvolpj said:
actually I'm not an environmental nut and think it could turn out to be a good thing.
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This exchange is EXACTLY what I'm talking about re: this incredibly frustrating effort by uber-conservatives to make all people who are middle of the road or even a little left on some issues seem like radicals.

No one is "rejoicing" over high oil prices (except for those that own the oil, of course). But what some people who take a larger view of things recognize is that it was inevitable as the resource dwindled and demand grew that this kind of thing is natural.

Higher oil prices make it economically feasible to invest in and produce alternative energy sources. Until now, things like solar and wind power were too costly relative to the same unit of energy that could be prodcued from oil.

As those cost/unit lines get close to converging, the incentive to be on the front end and to develop alternatives grows. Its simple economics.

But noooooo. The conservatives have to make it seem like anyone who sees this bigger picture is an "environmental nut."
 
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#192
lawgator1 said:
This exchange is EXACTLY what I'm talking about re: this incredibly frustrating effort by uber-conservatives to make all people who are middle of the road or even a little left on some issues seem like radicals.
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you quoted me so please explain how that is even close to my intent. Or did you just skip my other posts

lawgator1 said:
Higher oil prices make it economically feasible to invest in and produce alternative energy sources. Until now, things like solar and wind power were too costly relative to the same unit of energy that could be prodcued from oil.

As those cost/unit lines get close to converging, the incentive to be on the front end and to develop alternatives grows. Its simple economics.

But noooooo. The conservatives have to make it seem like anyone who sees this bigger picture is an "environmental nut."
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and I've actually stated that quite a few times on this very board. If you're going to take a quote make sure you know the beliefs of the poster.
 
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#193
lawgator1 said:
This exchange is EXACTLY what I'm talking about re: this incredibly frustrating effort by uber-conservatives to make all people who are middle of the road or even a little left on some issues seem like radicals.

No one is "rejoicing" over high oil prices (except for those that own the oil, of course). But what some people who take a larger view of things recognize is that it was inevitable as the resource dwindled and demand grew that this kind of thing is natural.

Higher oil prices make it economically feasible to invest in and produce alternative energy sources. Until now, things like solar and wind power were too costly relative to the same unit of energy that could be prodcued from oil.

As those cost/unit lines get close to converging, the incentive to be on the front end and to develop alternatives grows. Its simple economics.

But noooooo. The conservatives have to make it seem like anyone who sees this bigger picture is an "environmental nut."
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Who..... you are painting with a very broad brush by lumping every thing into blaming every thing on conservatives...

Also, do you talk like this in the courtroom... cause if you do, that would be priceless........
 
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droski said:
please post me the link to any article or newstory on fox news or foxnews.com that even IMPLIES that "minorities are lazy and uneducated and most are immoral." Thanks much.
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Well, you kind of put me on the spot because its not like they exist every moment of every day.

But, here's one from Drudge today which is couched in terms of efforts to make race not an issue in the campaign, but when you read it appears to forewarn that Obama will use it as a shield to deflect criticism. The story is pre-emptive and anticipatory of race-baiting.

Obama braces for race-based ads

And here's one from Fox today, about comparing comments from Spike Lee and Mayor Nagin of New Orleans about a "chocolate city," engendering fear in the minds of voters that Obama is going to turn the White House or Washington more culturally or politically "black."

Spike Lee Sees ‘Chocolate City’ Under an Obama Administration - America’s Election HQ


I note that Fox is also running the same story that Drudge did above implying that any claim by Obama's camp that race is being used against him is to be dismissed as race-baiting.
 
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#195
lawgator1 said:
This exchange is EXACTLY what I'm talking about re: this incredibly frustrating effort by uber-conservatives to make all people who are middle of the road or even a little left on some issues seem like radicals.

No one is "rejoicing" over high oil prices (except for those that own the oil, of course). But what some people who take a larger view of things recognize is that it was inevitable as the resource dwindled and demand grew that this kind of thing is natural.

Higher oil prices make it economically feasible to invest in and produce alternative energy sources. Until now, things like solar and wind power were too costly relative to the same unit of energy that could be prodcued from oil.

As those cost/unit lines get close to converging, the incentive to be on the front end and to develop alternatives grows. Its simple economics.

But noooooo. The conservatives have to make it seem like anyone who sees this bigger picture is an "environmental nut."
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Yes, you have it all down LG.
 
#196
#196
utvolpj said:
you quoted me so please explain how that is even close to my intent. Or did you just skip my other posts



and I've actually stated that quite a few times on this very board. If you're going to take a quote make sure you know the beliefs of the poster.
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Relax, Frances.

We are saying the same thing. It is not liberal or conservative, left or right, radical or fascist, to observe that higher oil prices means that other sources, perhaps cleaner sources, become price competitive.

That's my point (and yours, I believe).
 
#197
#197
so a story written by the AP based on things the Obama camp said and a story using a direct quote from a high-profile supporter are evidence of someone else's bias?
 
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#198
lawgator1 said:
Well, you kind of put me on the spot because its not like they exist every moment of every day.

But, here's one from Drudge today which is couched in terms of efforts to make race not an issue in the campaign, but when you read it appears to forewarn that Obama will use it as a shield to deflect criticism. The story is pre-emptive and anticipatory of race-baiting.

Obama braces for race-based ads

And here's one from Fox today, about comparing comments from Spike Lee and Mayor Nagin of New Orleans about a "chocolate city," engendering fear in the minds of voters that Obama is going to turn the White House or Washington more culturally or politically "black."

Spike Lee Sees ‘Chocolate City’ Under an Obama Administration - America’s Election HQ


I note that Fox is also running the same story that Drudge did above implying that any claim by Obama's camp that race is being used against him is to be dismissed as race-baiting.
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You can find the same stories at CNN, MSNBC, BBC...etc........
 
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#199
lawgator1 said:
Relax, Frances.

We are saying the same thing. It is not liberal or conservative, left or right, radical or fascist, to observe that higher oil prices means that other sources, perhaps cleaner sources, become price competitive.

That's my point (and yours, I believe).
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This is not necessarily a good thing. We used to have one good team, now we have a bunch of also rans that are more comptetive, that sucks.
 
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#200
lawgator1 said:
Well, you kind of put me on the spot because its not like they exist every moment of every day.

But, here's one from Drudge today which is couched in terms of efforts to make race not an issue in the campaign, but when you read it appears to forewarn that Obama will use it as a shield to deflect criticism. The story is pre-emptive and anticipatory of race-baiting.

Obama braces for race-based ads

And here's one from Fox today, about comparing comments from Spike Lee and Mayor Nagin of New Orleans about a "chocolate city," engendering fear in the minds of voters that Obama is going to turn the White House or Washington more culturally or politically "black."

Spike Lee Sees ‘Chocolate City’ Under an Obama Administration - America’s Election HQ


I note that Fox is also running the same story that Drudge did above implying that any claim by Obama's camp that race is being used against him is to be dismissed as race-baiting.
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I fail to see a single mention in those articles that is racist in any way whatsoever and certainly not implying that minorities are stupid.
 
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