France is Burning

[Franklin Pierce]

New French Revolution? Majority Support Ending ‘Fifth Republic’ as Macron Fails to Maintain Order

4 Jul 2023

Two-thirds of the people of France would support the end of the Fifth Republic, as the government of President Emmanuel Macron continues to fail to restore social order in the country.

While the streets of France have descended into scenes similar to those seen in violent revolutions not witnessed in supposedly stable Western European countries for some time, the French public is apparently prepared to back a political revolution of their own, with a majority supporting the abolition of the republic that has governed the country since 1958, the fifth such republic since the violent revolution which abolished the Bourbon Monarchy in 1792.

FRANCE – JANUARY 01: Le 28 Juillet; la Liberte guidant le peuple. July 28th 1830; Liberty guides the people. Oil on canvas, 260 x 325 cm. R.F. 129. (Photo by Imagno/Getty Images) [Le 28 Juillet; la Liberte guidant le peuple. Gemaelde. um 1830]

Majority of French Back End of 'Fifth Republic' Amid Breakdown in Order

 

[volfanhill]

No, no. 1/6 was far worse. Like, like far worse than Pearl Harbor or 9/11. Just ask anybody over < that way.

Well we have conservative posters sharing opinions that it's as bad as Urkaine. Idiots all around.

 

[Orangeburst]

Well we have conservative posters sharing opinions that it's as bad as Urkaine. Idiots all around.

You rang?

 

[LouderVol]

It's called confirmation bias.

Trump didn't say anything his base of resentment doesn't already feel. So those in the base conclude Trump is telling the truth. God forbid their assumptions about life and the world around them get challenged. Can't have that !

Same thing with you. Your TDS still cant let a single moment of Trump go by without you instantly lashing out first.

People never challenge their own bias's, it's not a left/right or Trump issue like you want it to be.

 

[KB5252]

At least there were arrests. Now will they lock them up or turn them lose like our liberal cities do.

My understanding is they will be sentenced to France's version of capitol punishment.......

They will be subjected to harshly worded insults.

 

[AM64]

New French Revolution? Majority Support Ending ‘Fifth Republic’ as Macron Fails to Maintain Order

4 Jul 2023

Two-thirds of the people of France would support the end of the Fifth Republic, as the government of President Emmanuel Macron continues to fail to restore social order in the country.

While the streets of France have descended into scenes similar to those seen in violent revolutions not witnessed in supposedly stable Western European countries for some time, the French public is apparently prepared to back a political revolution of their own, with a majority supporting the abolition of the republic that has governed the country since 1958, the fifth such republic since the violent revolution which abolished the Bourbon Monarchy in 1792.

FRANCE – JANUARY 01: Le 28 Juillet; la Liberte guidant le peuple. July 28th 1830; Liberty guides the people. Oil on canvas, 260 x 325 cm. R.F. 129. (Photo by Imagno/Getty Images) [Le 28 Juillet; la Liberte guidant le peuple. Gemaelde. um 1830]

Majority of French Back End of 'Fifth Republic' Amid Breakdown in Order

Now that's what you call a top down revolution ... very liberating.

 

[EasternVol]

With true freedom, one should be able to be a bigot, racist, hate for whatever reason. No person should be compelled to serve anyone for any reason.

So segregation was good?

 

[EasternVol]

Trump's FOS on that, he's just pandering to the folks who get their world view from bad comedians and fearmongers. France is still France, warts and all.

 

[jmacvols1]

Trump's FOS on that, he's just pandering to the folks who get their world view from bad comedians and fearmongers. France is still France, warts and all.

Even King Hassan back in 1993 knew immigrants to France would not integrate to fit the French way of living.....they would be a problem..."bad Frenchmen"

 

[allvol123]

So segregation was good?

Forced?

 

[EasternVol]

Forced?

In private businesses like theaters, restaurants, stores, amusement centers, etc. Was that good?

 

[EasternVol]

Even King Hassan back in 1993 knew immigrants to France would not integrate to fit the French way of living.....they would be a problem..."bad Frenchmen"

That has nothing to do with Trump being FOS.

 

[allvol123]

In private businesses like theaters, restaurants, stores, amusement centers, etc. Was that good?

Freedom is preferable.

 

[InVOLuntary]

So segregation was good?

I'm talking about individual freedom. If you're going to truly have freedom you have to accept that people have the right to hate. Legislating hate will never work.

Edit: I'll add that legislating people/business on who they accept or serve is a slippery slope. Should one be compelled to accept/serve skin heads/KKK?

 

[hog88]

In private businesses like theaters, restaurants, stores, amusement centers, etc. Was that good?

No. Forcing people to do something is generally bad.

 

[EasternVol]

I'm talking about individual freedom. If you're going to truly have freedom you have to accept that people have the right to hate. Legislating hate will never work.

Edit: I'll add that legislating people/business on who they accept or serve is a slippery slope. Should one be compelled to accept/serve skin heads/KKK?

I'm talking about individual freedom too, as in business owners.

 

[InVOLuntary]

I'm talking about individual freedom too, as in business owners.

If you want to live in a free society then you can't have government dictating who private citizens serve.

Do I think discriminating against people because of religion, race, sexual preference is morally right? Hell no. But I would defend a person's right to be a bigot, racist, any type of hater. It's called freedom. If you want it you can't expect it unless you grant it to others. Whether you like or agree with it. It's really what makes this country different than others.

 

[EasternVol]

If you want to live in a free society then you can't have government dictating who private citizens serve.

Do I think discriminating against people because of religion, race, sexual preference is morally right? Hell no. But I would defend a person's right to be a bigot, racist, any type of hater. It's called freedom. If you want it you can't expect it unless you grant it to others. Whether you like or agree with it. It's really what makes this country different than others.

That's been illegal since 1964.

 

[hog88]

That's been illegal since 1964.

Laws are not always (rarely) right.

 

[EasternVol]

Laws are not always (rarely) right.

True. That one's a trade-off. I like freedom but I also don't want to be denied service because I'm genetically on someone's blacklist.

 

[hog88]

True. That one's a trade-off. I like freedom but I also don't want to be denied service because I'm genetically on someone's blacklist.

I don't either and it would piss me off but I support their right to deny me service.

 

[InVOLuntary]

That's been illegal since 1964.

And it shouldn't be. It's probably caused more division than it would have if it had been left to naturally correct itself. Again, it's a slippery slope. What you or I find offensive, might be ok with others in power. Should I have the right to refuse service to a KKK member or a Nazi?

 

[InVOLuntary]

True. That one's a trade-off. I like freedom but I also don't want to be denied service because I'm genetically on someone's blacklist.

Would you want to be served by someone that feels they are being forced to serve you?

 

[EasternVol]

And it shouldn't be. It's probably caused more division than ot would have if it had been left to naturally correct itself. Again, it's a slippery slope. What you or I find offensive, might be ok with others in power. Should I have the right to refuse service to a KKK member or a Nazi?

That wouldn't bother me and I don't think it's illegal today.

 

[Vol423]

New French Revolution? Majority Support Ending ‘Fifth Republic’ as Macron Fails to Maintain Order

4 Jul 2023

Two-thirds of the people of France would support the end of the Fifth Republic, as the government of President Emmanuel Macron continues to fail to restore social order in the country.

While the streets of France have descended into scenes similar to those seen in violent revolutions not witnessed in supposedly stable Western European countries for some time, the French public is apparently prepared to back a political revolution of their own, with a majority supporting the abolition of the republic that has governed the country since 1958, the fifth such republic since the violent revolution which abolished the Bourbon Monarchy in 1792.

FRANCE – JANUARY 01: Le 28 Juillet; la Liberte guidant le peuple. July 28th 1830; Liberty guides the people. Oil on canvas, 260 x 325 cm. R.F. 129. (Photo by Imagno/Getty Images) [Le 28 Juillet; la Liberte guidant le peuple. Gemaelde. um 1830]

Majority of French Back End of 'Fifth Republic' Amid Breakdown in Order

Hmmm...It looks like they're starting to get serious.