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#152
#152
Those of you all defending FSU are the problem.

What if UGA decided to "take their ball and leave"🙄.??
Because they didn't get in either.

Instead they maned up and dropped 60 of FSU.

No sympathy from me for any program that checks out during a chance to MAKE A STATEMENT.

Bye FSU.
 
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#153
RDU VOL#14 said:
They might’ve been deserving, but that doesn’t mean they were a top 4 at the end of the season. Does anyone really think they are better than the 4 teams that are in the CFP ? Does anyone think they are better than anyone in the top 12?
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Georgia probably is the best team. Alabama's win over them is a fluke because Alabama really isn't that great (see Auburn or Arkansas games for example). Still Alabama won when it mattered and UGA choked.
 
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#154
volbound1700 said:
Georgia probably is the best team. Alabama's win over them is a fluke because Alabama really isn't that great (see Auburn or Arkansas games for example). Still Alabama won when it mattered and UGA choked.
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People keep bringing up Auburn and I get it. Bama shouldn’t have won, But doesn’t it always seem weird stuff happens at Jordan-Hare when Bama goes there? No matter the records or talent level Auburn usually plays up and Bama plays down to their level or something crazy happens. Obviously the kick six, but even more recently if Tank stays in bounds Auburn wins the game and Young doesn’t throw a TD pass for the win. This season clearly was just unfathomable. Some games just have a different style and history to them and the Iron Bowl at Jordan-Hare more times than not has something a little weird happen in recent years.

I think Bama is a very flawed football team, but they’ve gotten better every week since that ugly USF showing . I don’t think it’s reasonable to keep a 1 loss team that went undefeated in SEC play and then went on to beat the two time national champion who had won 28 in a row out of the CFP. I just don’t. I think they meet the criteria of being one of the 4 best teams in the country.
 
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#155
Stoerner Fumbles said:
We’re all wondering what “this” is. Georgia’s third string beat FSU 21-0. How much data do you need to realize FSU wasn’t going to compete regardless of the opt outs? They just aren’t very good. Sorry.
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I don't think anybody argued before the final CFP announcement that FSU was going to compete for the title. I think everybody knew they weren't. That wasn't really the issue. The issue is "best" or "most deserving."

The more you get away from "most deserving," the more you start playing this very subjective game where results on the field matter less and how a team "looks" matters more. Taken to its logical extreme, that framework says that the Miracle on Ice US team from Lake Placid shouldn't have been allowed to move on to the gold medal game against Finland because the Soviets were clearly the more talented, deeper, better team on paper. The "best team" in college football this year is probably UGA.
 
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#156
RDU VOL#14 said:
People keep bringing up Auburn and I get it. Bama shouldn’t have won, But doesn’t it always seem weird stuff happens at Jordan-Hare when Bama goes there? No matter the records or talent level Auburn usually plays up and Bama plays down to their level or something crazy happens. Obviously the kick six, but even more recently if Tank stays in bounds Auburn wins the game and Young doesn’t throw a TD pass for the win. This season clearly was just unfathomable. Some games just have a different style and history to them and the Iron Bowl at Jordan-Hare more times than not has something a little weird happen in recent years.

I think Bama is a very flawed football team, but they’ve gotten better every week since that ugly USF showing . I don’t think it’s reasonable to keep a 1 loss team that went undefeated in SEC play and then went on to beat the two time national champion who had won 28 in a row out of the CFP. I just don’t. I think they meet the criteria of being one of the 4 best teams in the country.
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It isn't just Auburn, Alabama also lost to 3-9 Arkansas at home, was not competitive vs. Texas, etc. Alabama was playing with fire all year long. It seems like the Georgia win is more of a fluke than the various struggles like Auburn.
 
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#157
Bama was lucky to beat Georgia if they played them again, Georgia would beat them by 3 scores
 
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05_never_again said:
I don't think anybody argued before the final CFP announcement that FSU was going to compete for the title. I think everybody knew they weren't. That wasn't really the issue. The issue is "best" or "most deserving."

The more you get away from "most deserving," the more you start playing this very subjective game where results on the field matter less and how a team "looks" matters more. Taken to its logical extreme, that framework says that the Miracle on Ice US team from Lake Placid shouldn't have been allowed to move on to the gold medal game against Finland because the Soviets were clearly the more talented, deeper, better team on paper. The "best team" in college football this year is probably UGA.
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My original post was aimed at exactly those people who did say they’d compete and even win. I don’t disagree with you that the selection system is flawed. I also think the integrity of the sport is dying, and the opt-outs are more evidence of that.
 
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Brave Volunteer said:
Don't be a dumbass. That is NOT the same team that competed all year. With all the holdouts, Hell it's not even the same team that beat Louisville a couple of weeks ago. Not to mention the fact that any motivation of playing this game is completely non existent! They deserved to be in the playoffs, period end of sentence!
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They did not end of sentence.
 
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volbound1700 said:
It isn't just Auburn, Alabama also lost to 3-9 Arkansas at home, was not competitive vs. Texas, etc. Alabama was playing with fire all year long. It seems like the Georgia win is more of a fluke than the various struggles like Auburn.
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I agree that Bama has definitely taken a step back these past 2 years . Things are on a more even playing field . Last season they could’ve gone undefeated or they could’ve lost 5 games. They lost 2. This season they could’ve lost 4 or 5 they lost 1. IMO the games they won over UGA 13 wins, Ole Miss 11 wins, LSU maybe 10, Tennessee maybe 9 outweigh their lone loss to a 1 loss CFP Texas team. Their wins are vastly superior to a undermanned FSU team that had a SOS in the 50’s. Just my opinion.
 
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Vol4gzus said:
Yes it was bad. This was a team ,jawga, with a few to the portal, versus a depleted Seminole team using it's 3rd string qb. Showed multiple players in jerseys and no pads on the sideline not ABLE to play. One was their sack leader I believe. So the response was skewed from the get go. Effort was there, but like the folks at the Alamo they were "badly" outnumbered. Realistic criticism is fine,but realistic assessment must come before the critique can be given
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"not ABLE to play"?

Wasn't their QB1 their only major injury you have heard about? The rest of those players you saw standing around in jerseys and no pads chose not to play.

Whether that is because they are going to the NFL, in the portal, or purely opted out it was their decision.

No law saying a player can't play the bowl game for you while in the portal if they played all season.

Face it, FSU threw a temper tantrum like a small child when they didn't get into the playoffs. Nobody cared from that point-players and probably coaches. And it showed.

Funny thing is that in five years nobody will remember the circumstances. Everyone will just remember that FSU got their pants pulled down and their butts spanked 63-3.
 
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#163
Actually they were showing injured players" not ABLE to play". Some of us WILL remember this as a mismatch due a limited roster for fsu. I think jawga would still have won even if qb hadn't entered the portal. But you can keep supporting your stance(?) with apparent abuse of the facts on their roster issues.
 
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#165
Dr H Lecter said:
Well I was convinced after the Louisville game FsU had no business in The Championship Series. It is absolutely obvious now. They need to join the Big 10 where they might have a chance to compete.
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What was your stance after Alabama barely beat Auburn? And Georgia loses to Alabama? Think before you post.
 
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#167
CLEARLY…this doesn’t even resemble the FSU team that went undefeated this past season. I don’t care about FSU HOWEVER I do care about integrity and what was done to FSU is a simple travesty. Who among us thought when it was 4th and 31 when Bama played Auburn- Yep there’s a playoff team. As one said …yeah but Bama won. I think that’s all FSU did was win as well…against a lot better teams than Auburn OBVIOUSLY . I just hope someday the same ridiculous argument doesn’t keep the Vols out of the playoffs because some committee members think “we just aren’t very good at 13-0. We’ll all have to agree to disagree on this one for sure.
 
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#168
#168
This game certainly wasn’t a representation of what FSU was this year, but at the same time, you can’t lose by 60 and claim you are national championship-worthy.
 
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#169
#169
MT_Vol said:
Some of us believe in earning things. I guess your parents failed to teach you that lesson.
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Ok, Lee Greenwood’s grandfather. Uncross your eyes and join this century. Winning the ACC undefeated against that schedule isn’t “earning things” anymore than selling a case of Thin Mints. Georgia “earned” more than FSU. They were undefeated and lost a championship game in the hardest conference by four. They were left out too. Tough luck. FSU didn’t play a hard schedule. They didn’t beat great teams. They lost their qb, and became even more average. Last night they lost by sixty points. FSU not going to the BCS doesn’t prove the decline of Western Civilization. They just aren’t that good. Opt-outs or not, they didn’t belong among the top four teams. Their vaunted, impenetrable defense was being leveled by Georgia’s third string for the last two quarters. Do I the choice was hard on their players? Yes. Do I think it’s unfair? Yes. Is Norvell a great coach? Yes. Is the process bad for the sport? Yes. Do I think they’d compete against the top four teams? No.
 
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#170
Brave Volunteer said:
So? We barely beat MSU in 98. Were we undeserving of competing for the natty based on that?
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and if not for the "immaculate" fumble by Clint Stoerner we would not have beat Arkansas in 98. EVERY team needs luck and breaks. You can't dominate every team nowadays. There is too much parity.
 
#173
#173
FSU appears to be what you get when you bring in a team full of mercenaries through the transfer portal.
 
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