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#126
BigOrangeTrain said:
No it’s warranted with you. You are living in fantasy land. Maybe this will explain it a bit bettwr

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Point is that last year, Alabama was ranked ahead of Tennessee in the CFP even though they had same record, very similar SOS, and Tennessee won head to head. Sure we were mad, but we responded by blowing out our opponent in the orange bowl.
 
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SockeyeVol said:
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By the time you are 14 years old, let alone, 18, you need to learn how to accept and move on from disappointment in athletics. It's fundamental to being an athlete.

Dozens of other football teams have been similarly rejected from what they THOUGHT they should have been awarded over the years. But FSU's failure to cope was record setting.

They had massive opt-outs? Only adds to the case against them, IMO. These are not the athletes I want to see in the CFP.
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It’s not coping. It’s a middle finger.
 
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The Tall Gguy said:
Point is that last year, Alabama was ranked ahead of Tennessee in the CFP even though they had same record, very similar SOS, and Tennessee won head to head. Sure we were mad, but we responded by blowing out our opponent in the orange bowl.
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…and we had 5 or 6 who decided not to play.
 
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GAVol said:
It’s not coping. It’s a middle finger.
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Which is very much a form of coping...

Like I say, getting left out of what you think you deserve has happened all through college football postseason history. Look at every team that didn't get to play in whatever bowl game had the #1 team that year.

But FSU's response was record -settingly bad.
 
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SockeyeVol said:
Which is very much a form of coping...

Like I say, getting left out of what you think you deserve has happened all through college football postseason history. Look at every team that didn't get to play in whatever bowl game had the #1 team that year.

But FSU's response was record -settingly bad.
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Yes it was bad. This was a team ,jawga, with a few to the portal, versus a depleted Seminole team using it's 3rd string qb. Showed multiple players in jerseys and no pads on the sideline not ABLE to play. One was their sack leader I believe. So the response was skewed from the get go. Effort was there, but like the folks at the Alamo they were "badly" outnumbered. Realistic criticism is fine,but realistic assessment must come before the critique can be given
 
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SockeyeVol said:
Which is very much a form of coping...

Like I say, getting left out of what you think you deserve has happened all through college football postseason history. Look at every team that didn't get to play in whatever bowl game had the #1 team that year.

But FSU's response was record -settingly bad.
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FSU didn’t care about this game and why should they? What is the upside for players that have money interest in the portal or draft?

We moved past the whole “do it for the love of the game and competition” when TV contracts and media favorites started running CFB. The players and teams are only executing within the system that we have today, and short of a championship, money and personal interests rule.

If I had won every game this season as a power 5 undefeated conference champion and a handful of people said I wasn’t good enough to play for a championship, I would be out too. If I have a contract potentially worth millions on the table it would be stupid for anybody to jeopardize it in that same situation.
 
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There’s a reason why Michigan players shivered in their seats when they found out they wouldn’t be playing FSU.
 
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Vol4gzus said:
Yes it was bad. This was a team ,jawga, with a few to the portal, versus a depleted Seminole team using its 3rd string qb. Showed multiple players in jerseys and no pads on the sideline not ABLE to play. One was their sack leader I believe. So the response was skewed from the get go. Effort was there, but like the folks at the Alamo they were "badly" outnumbered. Realistic criticism is fine,but realistic assessment must come before the critique can be given
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Please tell me you are not comparing FSUs game to the Alamo. Offensive.
 
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rjd970 said:
FSU didn’t care about this game and why should they? What is the upside for players that have money interest in the portal or draft?

We moved past the whole “do it for the love of the game and competition” when TV contracts and media favorites started running CFB. The players and teams are only executing within the system that we have today, and short of a championship, money and personal interests rule.
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The upside was huge. Look what happened to Darnell Wright’s stock after he stone-walled the best pass rushers in the country last year. FSU players had an opportunity to prove that they were the best and they chose not to play. Cowards. They don’t have a winning culture at FSU and they got beat 63-3 by a program who does.

UGA players had WAY more to lose financially and they opted to play because they want the world to know they are the best. And now we do know.
 
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volfan_28 said:
The upside was huge. Look what happened to Darnell Wright’s stock after he stone-walled the best pass rushers in the country last year. FSU players had an opportunity to prove that they were the best and they chose not to play. Cowards. They don’t have a winning culture at FSU and they got beat 63-3 by a program who does.

UGA players had WAY more to lose financially and they opted to play because they want the world to know they are the best. And now we do know.
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How is UGA the “best” when they lost their conference championship?
 
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Of the 9 players who opted out to prepare for the NFL, I wonder how many were transfer portal signees? Could be a reason not to build a program like that. PERHAPS portal players are more likely to check out when things don’t go their way?
 
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SockeyeVol said:
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Please tell me you are not comparing FSUs game to the Alamo. Offensive.
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Hmmm. Never seen comparisons before? The volunteers and others had no chance of winning as they were massively outnumbered by Santa Anna's army. If you stretch the spandex as far as you can this may be offensive to you
So I apologize for offending you.
 
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volfan_28 said:
I’d rather not. But I know who I’d pick to win if there was a rematch.
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I know you’d rather not, because you cannot explain, objectively. Do on-field results not matter to you?

It’s interesting that you think Georgia defeating a depleted FSU roster from opt outs demonstrates that UGA is the “best,” but you ignore UGA’s loss to Alabama in a game that actually mattered, when both teams were at full strength.
 
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allstar34bd said:
24 Opt outs... are you oblivious to reality?
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Exactly!!! Seeing people screaming all over social media how FSU was exposed and they didn’t deserve to be there…imagine Tennessee playing Georgia without 25 of their best players and the 3rd string QB..I hope the guys that played for FSU last night thanked their teammates sitting on the sidelines in sweats for taking the easy way out. Smart was right last night in his presser, something needs to be done about this.
 
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Sin City Vol said:
Exactly!!! Seeing people screaming all over social media how FSU was exposed and they didn’t deserve to be there…imagine Tennessee playing Georgia without 25 of their best players and the 3rd string QB..I hope the guys that played for FSU last night thanked their teammates sitting on the sidelines in sweats for taking the easy way out. Smart was right last night in his presser, something needs to be done about this.
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Tennessees secondary may just give up a ton tomorrow with all the players leaving.
 
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Sin City Vol said:
Exactly!!! Seeing people screaming all over social media how FSU was exposed and they didn’t deserve to be there…imagine Tennessee playing Georgia without 25 of their best players and the 3rd string QB..I hope the guys that played for FSU last night thanked their teammates sitting on the sidelines in sweats for taking the easy way out. Smart was right last night in his presser, something needs to be done about this.
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Let’s not blow things out of proportion. FSU was not without 24 or 25 of their best players. They were without 9 of their best players. Georgia was without 2 or 3 of their best players.

The players who had entered the portal are not either teams best players… FSU had 16 in the portal and UGA had 18.
 
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FSU was missing nearly 30 scholarship athletes. Some due to injury, most due to quitting. Shame on them and especially shame on the state of college football and the NCAA.
 
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jtipto10 said:
The committee chairman's exact quote was “It didn’t have any impact,”

Here's the article from on3

www.on3.com

Boo Corrigan explains impact Jordan Travis injury had on College Football Playoff rankings

CFP selection committee chair Boo Corrigan explained the impact the Jordan Travis injury had on the College Football Playoff rankings.
www.on3.com www.on3.com

That being said, even if the committee had said "yo, the qb being out mattered a ton and therefore we left them out", I'm still not sure that matters. They let cardale jones in as a third string qb and he went on to win the national championship.

I find it hard to believe if the same thing had happened to Georgia or bama, or Michigan or Ohio state, the outcome would have been the same.
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That’s from post-UNA game, not the ACC championship.
 
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Fightmaker said:
Kirby said a lot, but didn’t say it all. Travis was their offense this year. Their defense was deficient due to their op outs, but the offense was completely carried by their quarterback. The outcome might have been decided by an additional 17 point differential, but Florida St was clearly outmatched. If the quarterback was healthy, this game would not have happened. But those players chose not to play, and program culture does matter. Ole Piss got their players to buy in, Georgia did, etc. Georgia was the better team today, and it showed. End of discussion.
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They were missing their top 3 WR and their top 2 backs for this game as well so it wasn’t simply due to the QB. Travis, is immensely better than Glen but he also had studs to throw to that Glenn didn’t have last night.
 
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