Fulmer debate extravaganza (merged)

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UT IE 95 said:
My evaluation of Fulmer occurs between the end of the season and before signing day. Once we pass signing day, complaining about the coach of any team is wasted effort.

As an example, after the 2005 season I would have been quite content to find another coach. In fact, I sent ADMH a detailed letter explaining that a losing season at UT is unacceptable and should not be viewed as acceptable by keeping the head coach. My opinion must not have made much difference in his decision.
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This could be read different ways. Are you saying that you do not evaluate him or that after signing day you do not share your evaluations with others until the end of the season?
 
#1,677
#1,677
I don't think 50% of VN thinks Urban is overrated. Anyway, I think a good measure of success could be your record against rivals. Since Urban has been at Florida, his record against UF's big rivals (UT, FSU, and UGA) has been 8-1. Look at UT over the same timeframe. 0-3 against Florida. 1-2 against Bama. 2-1 against Vandy. I suppose we are also 3-0 against UK. Phenomenal.
 
#1,678
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I don't think the majority of people believe Oscar Meyer is over rated. He makes it easy to hate him because he has handed it to us.

Meyer takes the game serious, you know, this is Tennessee week and all that crap.

Fulmer just calmy says we will work hard which means we will get our butts handed to us by Florida.
 
#1,679
#1,679
I don't dislike Meyer because he has beaten us, and badly. I dislike him because he appears to be a first class a-hole.
 
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OrangeEmpire said:
You wouldn't care if he was an a hole or not if he didn't beat us.
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no. I just don't like the guy. Richt drilled us for a few years, but I didn't dislike him for it.

Meyer appears very disengenuous to me. I think he throws players under the bus. I think he's obscenely arrogant. Win or lose.
 
#1,684
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BigPapaVol said:
no. I just don't like the guy. Richt drilled us for a few years, but I didn't dislike him for it.

Meyer appears very disengenuous to me. I think he throws players under the bus. I think he's obscenely arrogant. Win or lose.
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Richt is the same exact person you describe.

Richt is an a-hole.
 
#1,685
#1,685
I have this vision of beating them and solidly, and him crying at the press conference afterwards... PLEASE let that happen, starting this year.
 
#1,687
#1,687
BigPapaVol said:
I don't that of Richt at all. He might very well be the fake too, but I don't see it.
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I've been around Richt a few times. He's one of those guys that is so nice that it annoys you because you like him even though you don't want to.
 
#1,689
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OrangeEmpire said:
Richt is the same exact person you describe.

Richt is an a-hole.
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"It's been a wonderful year for Tennessee, they came back from the dead and won," Richt said. "Their game against South Carolina was unbelievable, the game against Vanderbilt was unbelievable and then this game against Kentucky. It was just an awesome job."

- Mark Richt, not a sore loser

Compared to Urban Meyer's tacit admission last year that he was purposely running up the score on Tennessee.

Two completely different people.
 
#1,690
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Rocky-Top 10EC said:
Back to the original topic if given the opportunity CPF would run the score. He has done it 2 years in a row to GA. Running it up on FL is a different story, but given the opportunity he would esp at home.

The other topic........Tebow has a hell of an arm and is accurate also. He is a beast, and you have to admire him off the field for what he does. This being said I still would have a nice feeling inside after watching Berry our another one of our guys knock the living "poop" out of him, or any other Gator for that matter.
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He did not run the score up on Georgia. Weren't we up like 28-0 at halftime? We won 35-14. That would mean we scored one more TD in the second half. We could have scored 50+ against Georgia in that game and we were losing at halftime to Georgia in 2006.

Running the score up is what Florida did to us last season.
 
#1,693
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but this is the attitude that drives me insane. the notion that the Nation is satisfied with 8 wins is beyond me.

Phil Fulmer won the SEC East in '07 and significantly cooled his hotseat. What does Phil have to do this season to keep Vol fans happy?

He's already accomplished some of that just by turning over the offensive reins to a new young OC. A willingness to open things up a bit offensively will almost certainly help cool things a bit. As far as wins and losses go, I think he'll be fine with nine or maybe even eight wins, although there will always be grumbles about records like that, but nine or ten wins seems very attainable this season.
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#1,697
#1,697
A 10 win season and a conference championship appearance is a good season. Anything beyond that is a great season. You have to admit that.
 
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Sudeepvol said:
A 10 win season and a conference championship appearance is a good season. Anything beyond that is a great season. You have to admit that.
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I totally agree. I said the same thing in a previous discussion about this and got blasted like I was crazy or something.
 
#1,700
#1,700
The question I continue to ask (without a satisfactory answer) is this.

We, as fans, expect multiple conference championships, nothing but 10+ win seasons, top-5 recruiting classes, etc. And yet we tell the Big Ten and Pac-10 fans that the SEC is tops because of the number of top-level teams, specifically in the East.

Can we really have it both ways? If the conference is as strong as we like to talk about, then it stands to reason that team success will inherently be more sparse than if UT were in another conference. And isn't something like an 8-4 or 9-3 record not a case of the sky falling, but an example of the depth and parity within this conference?
 
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