Fulmer predicts bowl game for Team #118

[Joe Vols]

SECe has never been weaker in the history of the conference since Tebow graduated. SECe has absolutely been there for the taking.

We would have lit up the East with Taj and Bryce et al. and Fulmer would have had all these legacies as high school juniors.

Fulmer haters don't want to see the truth, or admit that they were wrong; even after the last 5 years of carnage. I can take some comfort in feeling I was justified in my stance that we fired Fulmer too soon.

 

[jdmorgan38]

Really? You want to look at all 15 years now? A NC. 2 SEC championships. 7 trips to the SEC Championship. A trip to the SEC Championship the year before he was fired. 2 losing seasons out of 15. And lets keep in mind that he did this while having to recruit almost exclusively out of state because we weren't turning out talent in state like Hurd or pulling legacies. Fulmer's record doesn't need the approval of internet turds. His accomplishments speak for themselves.

I totally agree. Fulmer can say whatever he wants until someone else can bring us back to that level. With that being said, I feel like we have the right guy to make it happen.

 

[crusse10]

SECe has never been weaker in the history of the conference since Tebow graduated. SECe has absolutely been there for the taking.

We would have lit up the East with Taj and Bryce et al. and Fulmer would have had all these legacies as high school juniors.

Are you telling me that you think Bryce Brown was coming to Tennessee if Fulmer wasn't fired? Or are you talking Bryce Petty?

 

[Joe Vols]

Firing Fulmer wasn't a mistake. The SEC got better and UT was standing still and watching. The mistakes started after with bad hires that looked even worse because of the improvement across the SECe.

Haha, that's funny... Fulmer's history just doesn't support your theory. We basically played for an SECC every other year with Fulmer; 7 out 15 years with 2 SECC and 1 NC. Your theory seems to be flawed, or stupid, not sure which one. lol

 

[Boston Vol]

Haha, that's funny... Fulmer's history just doesn't support your theory. We basically played for an SECC every other year with Fulmer; 7 out 15 years with 2 SECC and 1 NC. Your theory seems to be flawed, or stupid, not sure which one. lol

Fulmer made five sec title games not seven.

 

[dcm3w]

I may take some heat for this but we could definitely get 6-8 wins if things click for us.

If we win the 5 games that we are "suppose" to win then it's very plausible.

We could beat:

Georgia (new QB, hopefully he is garbage. Almost beat them last year. Gotta stop Gurley/Marshall.)

South Carolina (Beat them last year. Shaw is gone and we've been notoriously bad against DT QBs)

Mizzou (Stop Mauk)

Florida (Score on their defense and make sure Driskell doesn't have a field day)

Oklahoma (They barely won against bad teams last year and hopefully we can control Knight to a subpar game)

Alabama (their talent alone can beat us but if their quarterback situation stalls and we can manage to be decent against the run...may have a slight chance)

The key to a successful season this year is...:crossfingers: QB and OL play. If we don't have a year like 2012 on defense then we should be more dangerous than people expect. Scoring is key...we lacked that last year.

 

[volfaninutah]

You could qualify that by saying many or most or whatever. He wasn't loved by all. And, it was fortunate for us that he left for USC, IMO.

Slydell, Saw one of yout posts last week saying you had moved from Utah, and you mentioned Remuda Golf Course. Where did you live out here? I live in Syracuse and work part time at Glen Eagle. :good!:

 

[Joe Vols]

Fulmer made five sec title games not seven.

Thanks, I was using another poster's numbers. So 1 SECC game every 3 years. I'll take it again gladly. I just can't understand some of the Fulmer HATE.


Overall Conference Standing Bowl/playoffs Coaches# AP

Tennessee Volunteers (Southeastern Conference) (1992–2008)
1992 4–0* 2–0* 3rd (East)* W Hall of Fame 12 12
1993 10–2 7–1^ 2nd (East) L Florida Citrus 11 12
1994 8–4 5–3 2nd (East) W Gator† 18 22
1995 11–1 7–1 2nd (East) W Florida Citrus 2 3
1996 10–2 7–1 2nd (East) W Florida Citrus 9 9
1997 11–2 7–1 1st (East) L Orange† 8 7
1998 13–0 8–0 1st (East) W Fiesta† 1 1
1999 9–3 6–2 2nd (East) L Fiesta† 9 9
2000 8–4 5–3 2nd (East) L Cotton 25
2001 11–2 7–1 1st (East) W Florida Citrus 4 4
2002 8–5 5–3 3rd (East) L Peach
2003 10–3 6–2 T–1st (East) L Peach 16 15
2004 10–3 7–1 1st (East) W Cotton 15 13
2005 5–6 3–5 4th (East)
2006 9–4 5–3 2nd (East) L Outback 23 25
2007 10–4 6–2 T–1st (East) W Outback 12 12
2008 5–7 3–5 5th (East)
Total: 152–52

 

[butchna]

SECe has never been weaker in the history of the conference since Tebow graduated. SECe has absolutely been there for the taking.

We would have lit up the East with Taj and Bryce et al. and Fulmer would have had all these legacies as high school juniors.

Fulmer at his best was a closer...real CLOSE to NSD...he didn't get junior commits...most programs didn't, grant you but to say he WOULD HAVE is presumptuous.

 

[Orangedogsrule]

Regarding the "hire"
You can't judge the hire based on the slim possibility actually happening. Kiffin WAS a good hire. He brought energy to a lethargic fanbase. He brought excitement to recruiting. He brought high-profile coaches and players. The HIRE was good. That the one thing that would pull him away actually happened is unfortunate.
Dooley, on the other hand, was simply a bad hire. Nothing from his past made the fanbase think he was the next coming. The only thing he had was one okay year and a last name.

Time warps the mind. Kiffin was loved by Vols fans, hated by other fans, and loved even more by making those fans hate him.

Man, you be makin' nonsense! You and some others loved him, but a whole damn lot of folks didn't like Kiffin, not from day one. There was a reason he got fired from the pros. There was a reason he WAS NOT loved by many, many VOL fans. Not the least was his disdain for Volunteer history and lore. The idiot had film of USC greats playing on loops in the Volunteer trophy room. HE HAD NO REGARD FOR OUR GREAT HERITAGE. That and the whole, "We ain't recruitin' choir boys" dust up and not particularly caring at all about the character of recruits, when IT BY GOD DOES MATTER! These young men are representing our university and our great state to the world, and I never again want to see a gif of the Power T swapped for machine pistol on our helmets. Kiffin was a crass a$$. I felt like celebrating when I heard he and his cowboy staff rode out in the middle of the night.
So you loved him even more 'cause of his "bad boy" approach; liked it that he alienated so many local Tennesseans who want our young players to be upstanding and represent Tennessee in a positive light? So glad you don't make decisions for our school. Take your attitude and make like Kiffins and leave.

 

[Boston Vol]

Man, you be makin' nonsense! You and some others loved him, but a whole damn lot of folks didn't like Kiffin, not from day one. There was a reason he got fired from the pros. There was a reason he WAS NOT loved by many, many VOL fans. Not the least was his disdain for Volunteer history and lore. The idiot had film of USC greats playing on loops in the Volunteer trophy room. HE HAD NO REGARD FOR OUR GREAT HERITAGE. That and the whole, "We ain't recruitin' choir boys" dust up and not particularly caring at all about the character of recruits, when IT BY GOD DOES MATTER! These young men are representing our university and our great state to the world, and I never again want to see a gif of the Power T swapped for machine pistol on our helmets. Kiffin was a crass a$$. I felt like celebrating when I heard he and his cowboy staff rode out in the middle of the night.
So you loved him even more 'cause of his "bad boy" approach; liked it that he alienated so many local Tennesseans who want our young players to be upstanding and represent Tennessee in a positive light? So glad you don't make decisions for our school. Take your attitude and make like Kiffins and leave.

Yeah because Phil Fulmer recruited a lot of "choir boys."

 

[TheRain]

SECe has never been weaker in the history of the conference since Tebow graduated. SECe has absolutely been there for the taking.

We would have lit up the East with Taj and Bryce et al. and Fulmer would have had all these legacies as high school juniors.

Never mind.. I just noticed you said SECe.

 

[mocfan]

It is strange to me that 6 years later, Fulmer is still being blamed for our woes.

 

[GrowVol]

Well, at least no Vol fan has ever kicked CPF in the gut for giving his all for UT....(wait/what?)
Just deserves

 

[BeecherVol]

Agree w/ most of your comment except that Kiffin didn't matter because he wasn't around long enough. When Fast Lane said he wanted to make Tennessee "the USC of the East," that showed me he had less knowledge of Tennessee football history than Dooley did. With the storied tradition of UT football, they don't have to be anything but Tennessee. Kiffin never understood that, and Dooley was arrogant enough to think that tradition alone was enough to beat other teams.

Dooleys arrogance had more to do with Dooley than it did UT. Im not sure he really knew much more about UT than Kiffin did. His arrogance showed he was too stupid to use it if he did.

 

[JonGrudensAgent]

It is strange to me that 6 years later, Fulmer is still being blamed for our woes.

Our woes started with Fulmer.

Had he taken care of business and recruited players that could actually stay on campus or found a suitable replacement for Cutcliffe the first go around instead of Randy Sanders then begging Cut back for a couple of season, there probably wouldn't have been any woes.

 

[volfaninutah]

It is strange to me that 6 years later, Fulmer is still being blamed for our woes.

He got the ball snowball rolling. It got progressively bigger with each hire after that.:good!:

 

[JonGrudensAgent]

Is it me or does Fulmer take every opportunity to take passive jabs about how the program was better when coached.

Always.

 

[JonGrudensAgent]

Kiffin is a helluva football coach, he just sucks at being a human.

 

[orange parmejohn]

Haha, that's funny... Fulmer's history just doesn't support your theory. We basically played for an SECC every other year with Fulmer; 7 out 15 years with 2 SECC and 1 NC. Your theory seems to be flawed, or stupid, not sure which one. lol

Dude my theories always have flaws and a little stupidity in them. That's nothing new.

 

[majorvol]

Thanks Phil

 

[bhouston79]

Thanks, I was using another poster's numbers. So 1 SECC game every 3 years. I'll take it again gladly. I just can't understand some of the Fulmer HATE.


Overall Conference Standing Bowl/playoffs Coaches# AP

Tennessee Volunteers (Southeastern Conference) (1992–2008)
1992 4–0* 2–0* 3rd (East)* W Hall of Fame 12 12
1993 10–2 7–1^ 2nd (East) L Florida Citrus 11 12
1994 8–4 5–3 2nd (East) W Gator† 18 22
1995 11–1 7–1 2nd (East) W Florida Citrus 2 3
1996 10–2 7–1 2nd (East) W Florida Citrus 9 9
1997 11–2 7–1 1st (East) L Orange† 8 7
1998 13–0 8–0 1st (East) W Fiesta† 1 1
1999 9–3 6–2 2nd (East) L Fiesta† 9 9
2000 8–4 5–3 2nd (East) L Cotton 25
2001 11–2 7–1 1st (East) W Florida Citrus 4 4
2002 8–5 5–3 3rd (East) L Peach
2003 10–3 6–2 T–1st (East) L Peach 16 15
2004 10–3 7–1 1st (East) W Cotton 15 13
2005 5–6 3–5 4th (East)
2006 9–4 5–3 2nd (East) L Outback 23 25
2007 10–4 6–2 T–1st (East) W Outback 12 12
2008 5–7 3–5 5th (East)
Total: 152–52

That record is tremendous. I'll admit I was WRONG for wanting him gone after 2008. I'll admit that I took 10 win seasons for granted and that I was spoiled as a Tennessee fan to the point that I was disappointed with an 8 or 9 win season. I've often wondered if he would still be here if had he have won a national title in 2001. We were really close to playing in the national title game in 2001, and I think we would have beaten LSU in the SECCG if hadn't have injured their starting QB. If we had have won the SECCG and had our shot against Miami, I think we might have pulled off the upset. It would have been harder to get rid of a coach with 2 national championships within recent memory, and Fulmer may have been able to right the ship if he had been given the opportunity to do so. Besides I don't think we lose the Wyoming game in 2008 if Fulmer isn't forced out the week before the game, so as bad as 2008 might have seemed at the time, we would have probably made a bowl game and ended the season on a positive note with a 7-6 record had Fulmer been given the opportunity to right the ship. I guess all of that is water under the bridge now, and all we can do is stand firmly behind Coach Jones as he rebuilds this program brick by brick.

 

[BigALWiLson]

Neyland was great, Majors was good, Fulmer brought UT back to relevance. Fulmer set the standard at UT present day. He did it long term, with passion and love for this University. He also did it the right way and his players loved him and still love him and there will be a statue one day. I have nothing but respect for the man, any true Vol fan should.

 

[Slydell]

Slydell, Saw one of yout posts last week saying you had moved from Utah, and you mentioned Remuda Golf Course. Where did you live out here? I live in Syracuse and work part time at Glen Eagle. :good!:

I wasn't far away. I lived in Roy. Played Glen Eagle
(for sort of free thanks to a friend), Remuda, Round
Valley, in Morgan, the dreaded Cranefield (sister course to Remuda only not in good shape then), The Bluff, etc. Do you happen to know an old guy named Jim Rose? He's the one that got us freebies at Glen Eagle and a few others. Loved my time in Utah.

 

[mreorange]

Is it me or does Fulmer take every opportunity to take passive jabs about how the program was better when coached.

It was better! I love CBJ,
But Phillip was and always will be a championship coach!