Fulmer Replacement

#26
#26
(rexvol @ Jul 12 said:
what about Bobby Johnson?
Is that any more insane than Mike Price?
What about Hal Mumme?


Mumme?!? Are you high?
 
#27
#27
(jakez4ut @ Jul 12 said:
yes, he was on the staff here way back when....and it would take more than serious money...remember the NFL has a sweet pension, and that is a lot to walk away from....

more than the money it would take, i think it would take an even sweeter buy out clause, ensuring his job security.....thru the length of whatever contract he would supposedly sign with UT.

and with the way we are spending money right now, i doubt that's possible.
I think he married a UT cheerleader also.
 
#28
#28
It will never happen IMO, but I would like to see Spurrier at the helm if CPF goes. I love to see him get beat but I respect him as the best offesive mind in college ball, he gets more out of nothing (especially QBs) than any coach out there.
 
#29
#29
Of late, the most successful new coaches in college seem to be those coming from a head coaching job in the NFL. I would like to see UT go after an ex-NFL head coach. Doesn't necessarily have to be Butch Davis.
 
#30
#30
(therealUT @ Jul 12 said:
Didn't Gruden start at UT?

It would take serious money though to lure Gruden away from the NFL.

Gruden didn't play college football I believe. His dad, was an NFL assistant and opened some doors for him to get started in coaching. His brother was a successful college football player.
 
#31
#31
(oklavol @ Jul 12 said:
Of late, the most successful new coaches in college seem to be those coming from a head coaching job in the NFL. I would like to see UT go after an ex-NFL head coach. Doesn't necessarily have to be Butch Davis.

Referencing Pete Carroll, and who else???
 
#32
#32
(volmanjr @ Jul 12 said:
It will never happen IMO, but I would like to see Spurrier at the helm if CPF goes. I love to see him get beat but I respect him as the best offesive mind in college ball, he gets more out of nothing (especially QBs) than any coach out there.

I have always assumed that Spurrier's constant jabs at UT are his way of trying to hurt the institution that he grew up loving, but would not offer him a scholarship.

I think he would sign on as HC here in a heartbeat.
 
#33
#33
If you want an NFL guy Jeff Fisher might be looking for a job at about the time CPF departs although I would not want Fisher. IMO he and Fulmer have very similar football philosophy. Gary Patterson will be a "sexy" coach to go after this year, especially if TCU wins 10 or more games again this year. I think I've pretty much been sold on Butch Davis because of what he did at Miami and the fact that so many Vol fans seem to be willing to accept him. As much begrudging respect as I have for Spurrier, IMO it would rip our fan base asunder if he was ever offered the job (not that I think he would be so offered).

As much as I would like to see a new HC, I have to admit that the pickings are slim right now and it could be incredibly competitive trying to get one of the handful of "big name" coaches who are available out there. If Texas A&M, Miami, Michigan and UT are all schools that may be looking for new head coaches this year. All four have big money and will want the perceived #1 guy available. Add to that that a handful of decent jobs that will probably be available this year (Arkansas, Kentucky, Syracuse, Washington, Colorado State, and Air Force to name a few) and there is going to be some serious competition.
 
#35
#35
(Orangewhiteblood @ Jul 12 said:
Joe Gibbs
:yuck:

(ConMan @ Jul 12 said:
Bobby Petrino has done an awesome job with Louisville if we could get him. I mean you never heard anything about the Cards before he took over. Recruiting wise he's had to do an outstandig job to get those players to that school, and he would bring in a new offensive mind. The only question mark in my mind is the competition in the big east, but it would be similar to an Urban Meyer situation.
I don't see it happening. The Big East still, unfortunately, has their auto BCS bid. All you have to be is pretty decent to have a good shot at winning that weak conference and making a BCS bowl. Not to mention the east coast voters with an inflated view of the Big Least being more apt to hype up their teams. Look at how much West Virginia is getting talked up. Uh, they suprised a pretty good Georgia team and won, even though West Virginia gamed up as much as possible and Georgia was completely off. Big whoop.

(Lexvol @ Jul 12 said:
John Gruden
Unless Tampa completely sucks the next few years, that's probably a pipe dream.

(VolinArizona @ Jul 12 said:
Whoever said Mike Stoops is a smart man or woman.
I don't see Mike Stoops leaving Arizona. Nobody knows how but he's actually getting very good talent to Tuscon, I think he's on the cusp of building a very special program here in the Pac-10.
 
#36
#36
(milohimself @ Jul 12 said:
I don't see Mike Stoops leaving Arizona. Nobody knows how but he's actually getting very good talent to Tuscon, I think he's on the cusp of building a very special program here in the Pac-10.

Wish is exactly why I'd want him. A guy who can recruit 5 star players into UofA can recruit anyone here.

NFL coaches who made good college coaches after leaving the NFL (and I'm even using guys who started in college): Davis, Carroll, Weis, Erickson, Callaghan

I'm sure there are tons more coordinators I don't know about.

 
#37
#37
(VolinArizona @ Jul 12 said:
Wish is exactly why I'd want him. A guy who can recruit 5 star players into UofA can recruit anyone here.

NFL coaches who made good college coaches after leaving the NFL (and I'm even using guys who started in college): Davis, Carroll, Weis, Erickson, Callaghan

I'm sure there are tons more coordinators I don't know about.

I understand that there have been many coaches in the NCAA who have come up in the NFL. However, Oklavol specifically stated that NFL Head Coaches were making waves right now in the NCAA.
 
#38
#38
Maybe. I didn't say no NFL guys, I just said Gruden was a very big stretch.

As far as Stoops... He's really making the UofA program into his own. Hambone would probably have to offer Carroll/Richt/Weis-level dollar to pull him away from Tuscon. I agree though, he is a fantastic recruiter.
 
#39
#39
Gruden in the NFL makes close to twice as much as Fulmer. UT isnt going to give out the money to do that when they can hire a up and coming coach for 900,000 to 1 mil. I think manning would be a good OC/QB coach but not much more.
 
#40
#40
(VolinArizona @ Jul 12 said:
Whoever said Mike Stoops is a smart man or woman.
when i first read this, i read it as a question....lol. :birgits_giggle:
 
#41
#41
(oklavol @ Jul 12 said:
Of late, the most successful new coaches in college seem to be those coming from a head coaching job in the NFL. I would like to see UT go after an ex-NFL head coach. Doesn't necessarily have to be Butch Davis.


yes some one like mike martz he was interested in the oc position and the
man is motavator.
 
#42
#42
(volsfan711 @ Jul 12 said:
Gruden in the NFL makes close to twice as much as Fulmer. UT isnt going to give out the money to do that when they can hire a up and coming coach for 900,000 to 1 mil. I think manning would be a good OC/QB coach but not much more.
I don't think he could pull off the coordinator thing... Maybe a QB's coach at best. There's a big difference between knowing what you're talking about, and a coaching ability. Position coaches are good when they know what they're talking about, and coordinators do better with actual coaching stuff aside from the mechanics of the game.
 
#43
#43
(statman @ Jul 12 said:
yes some one like mike martz he was interested in the oc position and the
man is motavator.

I like that possibility, having Martz at Tennessee would be like USC having Carrol after his NFL troubles.
 
#44
#44
(Bobby Dodd @ Jul 12 said:
I like that possibility, having Martz at Tennessee would be like USC having Carrol after his NFL troubles.

Martz is better suited to be an OC than a head coach. The guy makes moronic decisions. In a playoff game a few years ago (I think against Green Bay) they did an onside kick at the end of the game. In spectacular fashion, the kicker recovered it. So there they are, with the game tied, the clock running out. All the momentum is on their side. And Martz elects to run the ball and intentionally kill the clock. Not surprisingly, they lost in overtime. This was just one of many bonehead decisions he made as the head coach of the Rams. Just ask any fan of St. Louis. His bad judgement is well chronicled. The guy has a good offensive mind, so he might see some success with the Lions. However, he absolutely does not have what it takes to be a good head coach. I do not want to see him in Knoxville.
 
#45
#45
(kptvol @ Jul 12 said:
Martz is better suited to be an OC than a head coach. The guy makes moronic decisions. In a playoff game a few years ago (I think against Green Bay) they did an onside kick at the end of the game. In spectacular fashion, the kicker recovered it. So there they are, with the game tied, the clock running out. All the momentum is on their side. And Martz elects to run the ball and intentionally kill the clock. Not surprisingly, they lost in overtime. This was just one of many bonehead decisions he made as the head coach of the Rams. Just ask any fan of St. Louis. His bad judgement is well chronicled. The guy has a good offensive mind, so he might see some success with the Lions. However, he absolutely does not have what it takes to be a good head coach. I do not want to see him in Knoxville.
Yeah... He can prep an offense like none other but his tactical prowess is comparable to the Iraqi military.
 
#46
#46
(therealUT @ Jul 12 said:
Referencing Pete Carroll, and who else???

Dennis Ericson at Oregon State initially was very successful, and Notre Dame's Charlie Weiss turned Notre Dame around immediately although he was a coordinator in the NFL.
 
#47
#47
(oklavol @ Jul 13 said:
Dennis Ericson at Oregon State initially was very successful, and Notre Dame's Charlie Weiss turned Notre Dame around immediately although he was a coordinator in the NFL.
Nick saban was also a coordinator in the nfl i believe for the Browns?...and he took Mich St and LSU to places that neither team has been to in a long, long time.
 
#48
#48
(volsfan711 @ Jul 12 said:
Gruden in the NFL makes close to twice as much as Fulmer. UT isnt going to give out the money to do that when they can hire a up and coming coach for 900,000 to 1 mil. I think manning would be a good OC/QB coach but not much more.

Salaries in the SEC, along with Pearl and Summitt's sweat deals will make it impossible for UT NOT to spend on a replacement if and when it happens.
 
#50
#50
(oklavol @ Jul 13 said:
Dennis Ericson at Oregon State initially was very successful, and Notre Dame's Charlie Weiss turned Notre Dame around immediately although he was a coordinator in the NFL.

I understand that, and the Saban thing. However, calling Ericson an NFL coach is like calling spurrier an NFL coach (or Petino an NBA coach.) Also, my response was to you claiming that former NFL Head Coaches were making waves in the NCAA ranks...they are not.
 

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