'24 GA ATH Kamron Mikell (Colorado commit)

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OrangeVolMan said:
We will see if he ends up at Colorado. They just lost their 2025 QB commit. People are starting to realize the truth.
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good point.
But he has a cousin there already. And the kid is already used to losing.

his Statesboro team was 3-8 in 2022. 4-8 in 2023.
He just wants to put himself in a position to maximize his talent.

Could have done that Tennessee, Georgia, or Colorado. So he chose his cousin.
 
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LouderVol said:
Not overpaying doesnt mean our NIL is poor.

If we think he is only worth 100k but he wants 500k we would have to be idiots to pay that. Doesnt matter if we have a million in the bank.

Overpaying like that resets our whole value system and screws us in the long run.
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Keep believing our NIL isn’t lacking.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Keep believing our NIL isn’t lacking.
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The Tennessee NIL Collective, Spyre Sports Group, will be at or near the top of most of these "The Best NIL Collectives in College Football" lists ...

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The Top 10 NIL Collectives in college football according to On3

In 2021, the Supreme Court reached a landmark decision that allows all college athletes the ability to profit from their own name, image, and likeness (NIL). Since then, there has been a scramble a…
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In this particular list from On3, Tennessee's Spyre Sports Group is #1.

From the article :

1. Tennessee - Spyre Sports Group

"The best NIL collective on this list is indisputably the Spyre Sports Group of Tennessee. On3's article highlighted Spyre's role in one of the biggest stories in the history of NIL : Nico Iamaleava's contract with Spyre that had a total value of 8 million dollars. Spyre has it all : a wide base of boosters, a large balance of cash, and a mission designed to allow athletes to pursue their passions and maximize their profits. What might've set Spyre apart from A&M's 12th Man and Fund is the presence of a creativity that some said was lacking in "The Fund's," processes. One example of this is Spyre's process of having member brands, such as a fast-casual burger restaurant, that can be paired with member athletes (perhaps an athlete with an interest in culinary arts), in a way that best suits both parties."


If you believe that Tennessee's NIL is lacking, could you support that belief with a link to a source of information? I'm not trying to argue, but every list of this kind which I have seen, has Spyre Sports Group near the top ... or in this case, at the very top. If you are just giving an unsourced opinion, then for what it's worth, journalists who make a living researching and reporting on such topics concerning college football, strongly disagree with you.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
The Tennessee NIL Collective, Spyre Sports Group, will be at or near the top of most of these "The Best NIL Collectives in College Football" lists ...

duckswire.usatoday.com

The Top 10 NIL Collectives in college football according to On3

In 2021, the Supreme Court reached a landmark decision that allows all college athletes the ability to profit from their own name, image, and likeness (NIL). Since then, there has been a scramble a…
duckswire.usatoday.com duckswire.usatoday.com

In this particular list from On3, Tennessee's Spyre Sports Group is #1.

From the article :

1. Tennessee - Spyre Sports Group

"The best NIL collective on this list is indisputably the Spyre Sports Group of Tennessee. On3's article highlighted Spyre's role in one of the biggest stories in the history of NIL : Nico Iamaleava's contract with Spyre that had a total value of 8 million dollars. Spyre has it all : a wide base of boosters, a large balance of cash, and a mission designed to allow athletes to pursue their passions and maximize their profits. What might've set Spyre apart from A&M's 12 Man and Fund is the presence of a creativity that some said was lacking in "The Fund's" processes. One example of this is Spyre's process of having member brands, such as a fast-casual burger restaurant , that can be paired with member athletes (perhaps an athlete with an interest in culinary arts), in a way that best suits both parties."


If you believe that Tennessee's NIL is lacking, could you support that belief with a link to a source of information? I'm not trying to argue, but every list of this kind which I have seen, has Spyre Sports Group near the top ... or in this case, at the very top. If you are just giving an unsourced opinion, then for what it's worth, the people who make a living researching such topics concerning college football, strongly disagree with you.
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If we had the best collective we wouldn’t be getting out bid as much as we have. A link with info? Look at big time recruiting threads. Look at VQ. Look up where AP has said multiple times when we have lost out on recruits it’s been NIL related. Francis Mauigoa last year. Perfect example. Williams Nwaneri. Fountain. Carnell Tate. If you think our NIL is an elite one, much less #1, then how about you give some examples to show that it is. I await.

Also, Spyre at one time too notch. That was until many other teams caught up.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
If we had the best collective we wouldn’t be getting out bid as much as we have. A link with info? Look at big time recruiting threads. Look at VQ. Look up where AP has said multiple times when we have lost out on recruits it’s been NIL related. Francis Mauigoa last year. Perfect example. If you think our NIL is an elite one, much less #1, then how about you give some examples to show that it is. I await.
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Unlike yourself, I'm not giving my own opinion here. I'm simply discussing the opinion of On3, who has researched the topic, and concluded that Spyre Sports Group is the best NIL collective. Read what was written about Spyre, they give the best example of Nico Iamaleava's deal.

You are talking out of your butt.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
If we had the best collective we wouldn’t be getting out bid as much as we have. A link with info? Look at big time recruiting threads. Look at VQ. Look up where AP has said multiple times when we have lost out on recruits it’s been NIL related. Francis Mauigoa last year. Perfect example. If you think our NIL is an elite one, much less #1, then how about you give some examples to show that it is. I await.
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Comparing anyone’s NIL to Miami’s at that point isn’t really fair
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Unlike yourself, I'm not giving my own opinion here. I'm simply discussing the opinion of On3, who has researched the topic, and concluded that Spyre Sports Group is the best NIL collective. Read what was written about Spyre, they give the best example of Nico Iamaleava's deal.

You are talking out of your butt.
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That’s what I expected from you. You are just going by what On3 says and not doing any research yourself. That’s fine. We shall see what happens with Jordan Seaton. If our NIL is as elite as you think, it will show up with him. Hopefully it does. But as of right now, I am very disappointed with Spyre especially with how much I am donating.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
That’s what I expected from you. You are just going by what On3 says and not doing any research yourself. That’s fine. We shall see what happens with Jordan Seaton. If our NIL is as elite as you think, it will show up with him. Hopefully it does. But as of right now, I am very disappointed with Spyre especially with how much I am donating.
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LOL.

Right. I'm trusting the professional opinions of people who cover college football for a living, rather than someone who never cites any sources and talks out of his butt on an internet message board about a topic he clearly knows NOTHING about - other than what you have read on this same site.
 
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AstonRoyal said:
I dunno know about that. I think great players appreciate the cut throat nature. I’ve seen phenomenally successful coaches in other sports too that coached successful teams straight up tell their captain and best player if they didn’t shape up they would go and get players who would and those players responded well and improved.

I would honestly welcome this tough kind of environment. Personally I think it builds true long term champions.
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I appreciate tough, hard nosed, reality/performance based coaching. I do not, however, appreciate a coach who is so self absorbed and only cares about himself and not his team. Coach pride is one of those….
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
That’s what I expected from you. You are just going by what On3 says and not doing any research yourself. That’s fine. We shall see what happens with Jordan Seaton. If our NIL is as elite as you think, it will show up with him. Hopefully it does. But as of right now, I am very disappointed with Spyre especially with how much I am donating.
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Donate 10 dollars instead of 5 next time. Spyre needs mega bucks!
 
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TheMookieMonster said:
I like how any recruit we lose out on now is basically only because of money and means our NIL is awful and directly ignore the evidence that third-party neutral observers believe we have the best collective.
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Yeah right dude. On3 is right all the time lol. Explain why we have been outbid so much then. Just because someone believes something doesn’t make it true.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
LOL.

Right. I'm trusting the professional opinions of people who cover college football for a living, rather than someone who never cites any sources and talks out of his butt on an internet message board about a topic he clearly knows NOTHING about - other than what you have read on this same site.
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Like I said. What I expected from you.
 
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TheMookieMonster said:
I like how any recruit we lose out on now is basically only because of money and means our NIL is awful and directly ignore the evidence that third-party neutral observers believe we have the best collective.
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While I do agree, you have to admit that plenty of folks (AP and others) have mentioned several times when we've missed out on a high-tier recruit, that money was the reason or a big contributor/factor to the miss compared to where they ended up... I think it's somewhere in the middle...
 
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volinbama256 said:
While I do agree, you have to admit that plenty of folks (AP and others) have mentioned several times when we've missed out on a high-tier recruit, that money was the reason or a big contributor/factor to the miss compared to where they ended up... I think it's somewhere in the middle...
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It’s not quite as simple as that. I’m sure that our coaching staff and our collective have assigned a certain value to players. We may get outbid occasionally, but that happens quite literally at every school now. Money is not limitless unlike what some posters here think.

I am sure there have been times where we lost out on a recruit not based on just not having the money, but because we felt that the asking price was too high for a player we felt wasn’t worth that amount. I guarantee you every school is facing this exact reality to a degree, because again money is not a limitless resource.
 
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TheMookieMonster said:
It’s not quite as simple as that. I’m sure that our coaching staff and our collective have assigned a certain value to players. We may get outbid occasionally, but that happens quite literally at every school now. Money is not limitless unlike what some posters here think.

I am sure there have been times where we lost out on a recruit not based on just not having the money, but because we felt that the asking price was too high for a player we felt wasn’t worth that amount. I guarantee you every school is facing this exact reality to a degree, because again money is not a limitless resource.
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Yep, that's why I said it's probably somewhere in the middle... I will say though, going into year 4, that if they are passing on some recruits based on not feeling like they are worth the money, but we had the potential to get them, then the staff won't have many excuses if they can't make improvements on the field with the talent they decide to go with...
The staff can't have it both ways and there will be justified questions that will be asked and they better have the answers to if we don't see improvement within reason if it comes out that we passed on talent.
 
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