'17 GA DT Aubrey Solomon (NCAA IS A FAIR ORGANIZATION)

#926
#926
LA Vol said:
The NCAA recently tightened the transfer guidelines. Schools and their attorneys were getting very creative with the mitigating circumstances exception to gain immediate eligibility for players, so the NCAA tried to close the loophole to reduce the number of waivers approved. The guidelines have never been evenly enforced. That won't change, but fewer players will get waivers.
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Yup and the language WAS very open.

They just need to move to a GPA standard and be done with it. The NCAA's whole reason for the one year residency requirement to begin with was to make sure kids adjusted academically. If a kid already sucks at school, let him sit. If he's crushing classes, let him roll through.

Hell, if a kid is helping take care of a sick one or has mental issues AND playing, isn't that worse for academics?? Let them transfer all day. But sit a year, make grades, and get straightened out.
 
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dyllisvol42 said:
This is why they shouldn’t be able to change the rules when ever they feel like it. All major sports have some sort of collective bargaining agreement. They can only change things when the agreement runs out. Before anyone says well players don’t get paid, your right they don’t but the NCAA makes billions of dollars. They should do five year agreements so at least for five years everyone knows the rules.
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I don't think that amount of inflexibility is a plus. Then you have bad rules going on and on. Iterative processes will gain faster positive results. But they do need to grandfather in all requests waiting on a response. And given the documentation changes, I would imagine they are, but who knows.
 
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Devo182 said:
Still don't get why that would be a factor. The only guidelines I'm familiar with are things involving a player's health, safety, or well-being. Or taking care of a sick family member within 100 miles of the new school. How many games you played or redshirted has never been brought up afaik.
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Things do change. Games played or redshirting eligibility may be a factor in the future. Players may start being paid and the NCAA drops the whole transfer requirements. As I said it may be taken into consideration in the future but the current state of things, yes it is a non factor. Fact is there are no clear cut guidelines, or at least from a fans perspective there don't seem to be a rhyme or reason for what they allow and what they don't. I'm fully prepared to blame the NCAA if Solomon is not eligible.
 
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LA Vol said:
The NCAA recently tightened the transfer guidelines. Schools and their attorneys were getting very creative with the mitigating circumstances exception to gain immediate eligibility for players, so the NCAA tried to close the loophole to reduce the number of waivers approved. The guidelines have never been evenly enforced. That won't change, but fewer players will get waivers.
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Does that go into effect this year or next?
 
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SweetasSoda said:
Does that go into effect this year or next?
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It’s already in effect, basically they just added 4 alterations into their already existing guidelines and those 4 alterations make it a lot harder to get immediate eligibility for the student athletes. To even have a full waiver process you need to have your former school completely on board with the process which can be hard for certain circumstances.
 
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TrueVolsGBOInsider said:
It’s already in effect, basically they just added 4 alterations into their already existing guidelines and those 4 alterations make it a lot harder to get immediate eligibility for the student athletes. To even have a full waiver process you need to have your former school completely on board with the process which can be hard for certain circumstances.
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So they just make it up as they go. Having the former school on board is ridiculous.
 
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SweetasSoda said:
So they just make it up as they go. Having the former school on board is ridiculous.
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My thoughts exactly, it’s ridiculous for sure. They shouldn’t be able to change the rules as they go. The article I read on all this was published on June 27th. so I think it’s a safe bet to say that these alterations are a big part of why it’s taking so long to get answers for kids awaiting transfer waivers now. Seems like the ncaa is trying to drown the kids and their prospective schools in meaningless paper work. Thus marking the whole process a pain in the a$$.
 
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LA Vol said:
The NCAA recently tightened the transfer guidelines. Schools and their attorneys were getting very creative with the mitigating circumstances exception to gain immediate eligibility for players, so the NCAA tried to close the loophole to reduce the number of waivers approved. The guidelines have never been evenly enforced. That won't change, but fewer players will get waivers.
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That is all fine, but they need to start this for next year's transfers as it is completely unfair to allow several in this class to easily gain eligibility and then deny others in the same class.
 
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Devo182 said:
Yup and the language WAS very open.

They just need to move to a GPA standard and be done with it. The NCAA's whole reason for the one year residency requirement to begin with was to make sure kids adjusted academically. If a kid already sucks at school, let him sit. If he's crushing classes, let him roll through.

Hell, if a kid is helping take care of a sick one or has mental issues AND playing, isn't that worse for academics?? Let them transfer all day. But sit a year, make grades, and get straightened out.
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I can get behind this. Make it a 3.0 minimum
 
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Mick said:
Things do change. Games played or redshirting eligibility may be a factor in the future. Players may start being paid and the NCAA drops the whole transfer requirements. As I said it may be taken into consideration in the future but the current state of things, yes it is a non factor. Fact is there are no clear cut guidelines, or at least from a fans perspective there don't seem to be a rhyme or reason for what they allow and what they don't. I'm fully prepared to blame the NCAA if Solomon is not eligible.
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Do we blame them for Gibbs not being cleared? What were each guy's cases?
 
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TrueVolsGBOInsider said:
It’s already in effect, basically they just added 4 alterations into their already existing guidelines and those 4 alterations make it a lot harder to get immediate eligibility for the student athletes. To even have a full waiver process you need to have your former school completely on board with the process which can be hard for certain circumstances.
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Was it actually mentioned anywhere if it applied immediately or retroactively to cases already filed? No mods knew at the time it was released.

Wish we had an ncaa insider through any of the sites. Seems nobody knows anything. It's like a black box.
 
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Devo182 said:
Was it actually mentioned anywhere if it applied immediately or retroactively to cases already filed? No mods knew at the time it was released.

Wish we had an ncaa insider through any of the sites. Seems nobody knows anything. It's like a black box.[/QUOTE

What I read stated it took effect immediately and it would affect every case not already approved by the committee.
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Mick said:
Things do change. Games played or redshirting eligibility may be a factor in the future. Players may start being paid and the NCAA drops the whole transfer requirements. As I said it may be taken into consideration in the future but the current state of things, yes it is a non factor. Fact is there are no clear cut guidelines, or at least from a fans perspective there don't seem to be a rhyme or reason for what they allow and what they don't. I'm fully prepared to blame the NCAA if Solomon is not eligible.
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TrueVolsGBOInsider said:
Read The first few paragraphs of this article for info regarding the new transfer rules. Note- This particular article is based on a player who is transferring to another school not named Tennessee.
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Yes but the article also mentions his paperwork hadn't been filed yet.

In our case and many others, the paperwork was in before the adjustments. Those adjustments required different, usually more, documentation. That is why I have a hard time seeing it apply to cases already filed but jmo.
 
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Devo182 said:
Yes but the article also mentions his paperwork hadn't been filed yet.

In our case and many others, the paperwork was in before the adjustments. Those adjustments required different, usually more, documentation. That is why I have a hard time seeing it apply to cases already filed but jmo.
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I could agree with you on that, but I’d also say the adjustments they made affected the original guidelines so it’s
Safe to say more paperwork would of needed to be done to those players who already filed
But hadn’t been approved yet. Especially if those players want to give themselves the absolute best chance to get approved. The NCAA could also just be inforcing the rules on anyone not already approved to be d heads too tho.
 
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#946
ATP, they're still guidelines, not rules. So it is, and always has been, a subjective process. And it's fluid. If the NCAA wants more documentation to support a case, they request it. And the school can comply or not comply. Either players are granted the waiver quickly when their file is reviewed, accept the denial or schools work the process.
 
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LA Vol said:
ATP, they're still guidelines, not rules. So it is, and always has been, a subjective process. And it's fluid. If the NCAA wants more documentation to support a case, they request it. And the school can comply or not comply. Either players are granted the waiver quickly when their file is reviewed, accept the denial or schools work the process.
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Feels like your setting is up for disappointment. 😂. But in all seriousness it looks like (from the outside) that it was denied at first and we are trying to get the ruling overturned. Definitely could be wrong and no decision has been made.
 
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SLICKYINC said:
My appetizer last night was Snake River Farms Wagyu Carpaccio with Arugula, shaved Parmesan, Capers and Olive oil. Not Olive Garden though, was good.
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This dish would blow Pruitt's mind. "Looks like ya ordered some fancy lookin cornbread over there...with some weird lookin asparagus on top".
 
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