'17 GA DT Aubrey Solomon (NCAA IS A FAIR ORGANIZATION)

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Devo182 said:
Do we blame them for Gibbs not being cleared? What were each guy's cases?
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Of course. Everyone on VN knows the NCAA hates us. lol. Where have you been? Are you seriously wanting to argue the differences of every transfer in the nation and compare them? Go ahead, it seems like a pointless endeavor to me.
 
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Mick said:
Of course. Everyone on VN knows the NCAA hates us. lol. Where have you been? Are you seriously wanting to argue the differences of every transfer in the nation and compare them? Go ahead, it seems like a pointless endeavor to me.
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It would be pointless, indeed. Because we have zero information. Simply pointing out we have zero idea what each case/argument is. So I don't get pitchforking something we know nothing about.

I have yet to hear why Solomon would have a case. I've asked multiple times, nobody knows, yet are ready to get up in arms over it. That's all.
 
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Devo182 said:
Do we blame them for Gibbs not being cleared? What were each guy's cases?
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The Gibbs transfer is within the conference and he's not a grad transfer. He was never going to be immediately eligible once he transferred. The key to transferring within the SEC, or any conference, is being a grad transfer for immediate eligibility.
 
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Batman1948 said:
The Gibbs transfer is within the conference and he's not a grad transfer. He was never going to be immediately eligible once he transferred. The key to transferring within the SEC, or any conference, is being a grad transfer for immediate eligibility.
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Expect this to be vindicated by public defender Devo. 😏
 
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Devo182 said:
It would be pointless, indeed. Because we have zero information. Simply pointing out we have zero idea what each case/argument is. So I don't get pitchforking something we know nothing about.

I have yet to hear why Solomon would have a case. I've asked multiple times, nobody knows, yet are ready to get up in arms over it. That's all.
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I think it's more wanting to have him on our D-line this season. Some people are optimistic, me not so much. I'm sure there will be overreaction if he isn't cleared. When I said I would blame the NCAA it was more in jest anyway.
 
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Batman1948 said:
The Gibbs transfer is within the conference and he's not a grad transfer. He was never going to be immediately eligible once he transferred. The key to transferring within the SEC, or any conference, is being a grad transfer for immediate eligibility.
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Interconference has zero to do with it. That has zero bearing on the guidelines. Ask Van Jefferson. But Pruitt was correct in being very skeptical. He knew Kirby and uga would make it tough. And it sounds like Gibbs had little, if any, case. Just a shot in the dark if I had to guess.
 
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AaronUT said:
Expect this to be vindicated by public defender Devo. 😏
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Never seen anyone so dead set on defending the honor of the 'great and true' corporations, as Devo.

Evidence against 247 didn't slow him down a bit either. I've heard of being a "company man" before, just not EVERY company 😄
 
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chargervol said:
Never seen anyone so dead set on defending the honor of the 'great and true' corporations, as Devo.

Evidence against 247 didn't slow him down a bit either. I've heard of being a "company man" before, just not EVERY company 😄
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The ncaa is a NP, not a corporation, but yeah 😊...paranoia is my more of my irk. It is the refs during basketball season, services during crootin season, media year round, then the ncaa LRC (literally just a group of D1 university employees from various schools that volunteer to work on these issues the member groups (universities) have assigned to them) with the waivers. It's exhausting and I just have a visceral reaction to external blaming anyway. Deal with ourselves and control what we can control. Let the rest roll off our shoulders and keep cruisin. Positive thinking.

Now, when it comes to trolling opponents, I will gladly join the trashing 😁
 
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Devo182 said:
Interconference has zero to do with it. That has zero bearing on the guidelines. Ask Van Jefferson. But Pruitt was correct in being very skeptical. He knew Kirby and uga would make it tough. And it sounds like Gibbs had little, if any, case. Just a shot in the dark if I had to guess.
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Jefferson was because ole piss got put on probation. Free to go anywhere. But you just keep on defending.
 
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JacketVol said:
Jefferson was because ole piss got put on probation. Free to go anywhere. But you just keep on defending.
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Van still had to get a waiver, just like Shea Patterson. Note - Van would NOT have been able to transfer if this had been a year earlier, as the old rules were still in effect and the coach could outright deny it. But that was just an example..


Just facts - there are no longer rules against intraconference transfers. Anyone is free to go anywhere they want. Maybe some are thinking of the old rules. Those were scrapped a year or two ago. Anyone can transfer anywhere they want now.

But if they apply for a waiver, that is where the previous school has a chance to give whatever evidence they have, for/against/neutral, hopefully benign. But many expect people will be people and skew things against their interconference rivals and that is where I believe the sjepticism comes from.

But to be clear, intraconference transfers have ZERO bearing on the guidance on how to legislate those transfers. That is my point. It's very simple.
 
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Devo182 said:
The ncaa is a NP, not a corporation, but yeah 😊...paranoia is my more of my irk. It is the refs during basketball season, services during crootin season, media year round, then the ncaa LRC (literally just a group of D1 university employees from various schools that volunteer to work on these issues the member groups (universities) have assigned to them) with the waivers. It's exhausting and I just have a visceral reaction to external blaming anyway. Deal with ourselves and control what we can control. Let the rest roll off our shoulders and keep cruisin. Positive thinking.

Now, when it comes to trolling opponents, I will gladly join the trashing 😁
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Nah.
They took the easy option with a race issue then decided to change the guidelines because of the lax door they opened.

They make us live with terrible penalties etc., until the next season.
But now that it's them bearing consequences, they want to change everything half way through.

I don't get as upset as others at the outcome because I accept business does what is in it's own interest, I can live with that.
It's your level 10 of denial about how business works that I find frustrating. If you accept it like I do, fine. But stop pretending it's some noble and honorable cause where things are done with transparency, integrity and they're the victims.

Self inflicted.
 
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Jefferson had his NCAA waiver immediately. The issue was the SEC who changed their rule in 2018 where you didn’t have to sit out within the conference on transfers of team was put on probation or is a graduate transfer. The latter being how Kennedy came to the Vols.
 
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JacketVol said:
Jefferson had his NCAA waiver immediately. The issue was the SEC who changed their rule in 2018 where you didn’t have to sit out within the conference on transfers of team was put on probation or is a graduate transfer. The latter being how Kennedy came to the Vols.
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That's true, Jefferson happened to be a bad example since OM had all that shiz going on. Just what came to mind. Was forced to watch the Florida/Mich bowl game recently😑
 
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If I ask why we would go full pitchforks for a case we know nothing about, why does that have to become something bigger? Can't we just stick to specific points? Not everything has to be WWIII here all the time, christ. I'm making a specific point, asking a specific question, and because of that it is assumed/projected I'm saying this NP org is honarable, noble and victims? Quite the fantastical leap to make.
 
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Devo182 said:
If I ask why we would go full pitchforks for a case we know nothing about, why does that have to become something bigger? Can't we just stick to specific points? Not everything has to be WWIII here all the time, christ.
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Haven't seen WW3. I have seen fans doing regular, expected venting. Trying their best to share with other fans and most importantly...just get it off their collective chest.

And the absolute last thing wanted during a venting process, is someone inexplicably defending the target of that needed release.

I think everyone has responded fairly well, considering you do the proverbial "poking of the bear" at the most inopportune times, hindering them from just getting it out of their system🤷‍♂️

You'd been ripped to shreds in several forums, or at my wife's book club. That's much closer to WWIII. Everyone here has been very civil, especially given what could be seen a shots at people's intellect and mentality, that you've thrown out on several occasions.
Just let folks vent.
 
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chargervol said:
Haven't seen WW3. I have seen fans doing regular, expected venting. Trying their best to share with other fans and most importantly...just get it off their collective chest.

And the absolute last thing wanted during a venting process, is someone inexplicably defending the target of that needed release.

I think everyone has responded fairly well, considering you do the proverbial "poking of the bear" at the most inopportune times, hindering them from just getting it out of their system🤷‍♂️

You'd been ripped to shreds in several forums, or at my wife's book club. That's much closer to WWIII. Everyone here has been very civil, especially given what could be seen a shots at people's intellect and mentality, that you've thrown out on several occasions.
Just let folks vent.
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Fair enough. I'm tired of metadiscussions. Let's get back to the topic, not me.
 
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I'm genuinely perplexed as to how any rulings are still hanging out there in space. We could make a legitimate gripe about it putting us at a competitive disadvantage, as we don't know whether to prepare as if Solomon will play or as if he won't play.

If CJP were sitting on the news that he's been cleared to gain some sort of upper hand on freakin' GA St, I would be surprised.

Seriously, shame on the NCAA for leaving this in limbo.
 
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Me waiting on news about Solomon...

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A little good news, the adjusted guidelines only apply to cases filed after June 26th. So Solomon will be held to the original ones.

"The adjusted waiver guidelines will apply only in cases filed after the Division I Council’s approval on June 26." per the ncaa pr director.
 
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