'17 GA DT Aubrey Solomon (NCAA IS A FAIR ORGANIZATION)

[BruinVol]

Everybody's pretty much saying the same thing-- when both schools support the player, the waiver request is approved. Compliance and legal prepare the package, including the documentation and verbiage that follow NCAA guidelines. Not every reason a player is transferring has to be spelled out, but both schools need to be on the same page for quick approval. Otherwise, it becomes a complex case that takes much longer, requires additional documentation and results in much more red tape.

So everybody is basically agreeing, except the few who think UT's AD, Compliance Department, legal counsel and legal consultants all bungled the submission.

Agreed as long as you add your earlier post where you said no school is ever going to use more playing time as the reason for a request

 

[BruinVol]

Show me that it didn't.

Likewise the other way but it clearly doesn’t fit any wording of the rule where the player Must show circumstances beyond their control

 

[Sleegro]

I know the outcome which says it all

Got a question for you that is going to be very damning for you and your stance

If playing time is a reason to transfer and get a waiver why is GaTech and the family so mad at Mich for saying the kid left for more playing??!!

I mean mich is getting roasted for telling the ncaa that.

Want to explain why that’s bad??

Because that's not the reason he left Michigan and not the reason he gave the NCAA. By Michigan essentially calling him a liar about his reasoning and not supporting him and backing up what he said, they intentionally torpedoed his waiver. Not sure how you think that helps yer argument though. I'm not surprised you think it helps because toby gonna toby

 

[Glitch]

Likewise the other way but it clearly doesn’t fit any wording of the rule where the player Must show circumstances beyond their control

You act like he got out his crayolas, scribbled playing time on a piece of construction paper, and mailed it to the NCAA. He transferred for playing time and if the NCAA can't see that, regardless of the reasons listed in the letter, then they are dumber than we all suspected.

 

[BearCat204]

The problem is @Sleegro who keeps liking
Your post is saying that playing time can be the sole reason for getting a waiver. Poor guy doesn’t even know that posters defending him really aren’t

You got some issues there

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

STFU

 

[TrueVolsGBOInsider]

Searched your posts. Startled by the utter lack of info.

I’m startled by your infatuation with me. I stated my opinion on the matter based off the info I have been given. I can’t help it if it doesn’t meet your qualification of good info. Seems like you forget this is a message board and not espn.com.

 

[SLICKYINC]

I’m startled by your infatuation with me. I stated my opinion on the matter based off the info I have been given. I can’t help it if it doesn’t meet your qualification of good info. Seems like you forget this is a message board and not espn.com.

L U L Z

 

[BruinVol]

I could be wrong but I've not seen @Sleegro claim that a waiver solely based on playing time would be granted.

Yes he has

 

[BruinVol]

You act like he got out his crayolas, scribbled playing time on a piece of construction paper, and mailed it to the NCAA. He transferred for playing time and if the NCAA can't see that, regardless of the reasons listed in the letter, then they are dumber than we all suspected.

Well then that’s exactly why most here opposed Fields and Martel getting a waiver

They didn’t deserve one

I’m sure MO used a circumstance for leaving other than playing time, tenn didn’t refute that so the ncaa went along with it. It’s really that simple

 

[LA Vol]

Look, the new school is going to put its best case forward, which means filing on the grounds most likely to be effective. If a player is transferring for health, injury or personal reasons (and maybe playing time, too), compliance is going to file under health, injury or personal reasons. The family doesn't have to be specific with the previous school and in the Sims case, the parents allege they did not mention PT. Michigan intentionally added that to their statement, knowing it would kill the case. And it did, even though the Sims family allege they provided every bit of documentation the NCAA requires, including the medicals from a treating physician. And Sims meets the 100-mile rule. I'd take it to the media, too, if I were the Sims family.

 

[scienceteaching_vol]

This thread is my equivalent of buying a Powerball ticket.. I just know when I purchase one it's going to hit the numbers.

Everytime I open this thread I just know it's going to say he's eligible. Will the subtitle in the parentheses change when a decision is made? I'm just not sure my heart can take it anymore. Ha!

 

[Glitch]

Well then that’s exactly why most here opposed Fields and Martel getting a waiver

They didn’t deserve one

I think most people were just shocked that they got theirs so quickly. Obviously the main difference between many waivers and the players leaving Michigan is that Harbaugh is butt hurt and not helping any of them get approved.

 

[BruinVol]

Because that's not the reason he left Michigan and not the reason he gave the NCAA. By Michigan essentially calling him a liar about his reasoning and not supporting him and backing up what he said, they intentionally torpedoed his waiver. Not sure how you think that helps yer argument though. I'm not surprised you think it helps because toby gonna toby

Hmmm

Well if that wasn’t the reason they claimed it should be easy now. Just claim he left for playing time and now that michigan agreed it’s all good right?

 

[Sleegro]

Toby still flopping around like when you cut the head off a chicken and the body runs around not knowing it was killed in the debate today.

 

[BruinVol]

I think most people were just shocked that they got theirs so quickly. Obviously the main difference between many waivers and the players leaving Michigan is that Harbaugh is butt hurt and not helping any of them get approved.

I agree. I also agree most are leaving for more playing time but that isn’t the reasons stated to the ncaa. As long as both schools play nice the ncaa is granting the request

 

[Devo182]

Guise...1 more page then he gets the waiver. Almost there folks. #numerology

 

[LA Vol]

Is anybody other than one poster arguing anything other than Michigan isn't cooperating and is thus holding up this waiver? No. So we have consensus, yes?

 

[BruinVol]

Look, the new school is going to put its best case forward, which means filing on the grounds most likely to be effective. If a player is transferring for health, injury or personal reasons (and maybe playing time, too), compliance is going to file under health, injury or personal reasons.

Yep they aren’t going to file under playing time

 

[Devo182]

But that was the sole reason for the transfer. He wasn't homesick or needed to be close to home for a sick family member. He just wanted to see the field and it was approved.

Stay down.

No one truly knows what Marquill's case was, but he had a child on the way. I'd guess 1) being closer to the newborn (this is one of the prior case guidelines that was approved and has precedent) and 2) being one semester from graduation, made it pretty straightforward imo. There's little pragmatic difference from a graduate and guy with 1 semester left.

But I'm glad Pruitt adds those letters anyway, regardless if Mars thinks they matter, I just think he's being a decent human being and that matters more (to me).

 

[BruinVol]

Is anybody other than one poster arguing anything other than Michigan isn't cooperating and is thus holding up this waiver? No. So we have consensus, yes?

We all agree except a few think playing time can be used solely to get a waiver

@Glitch and @Sleegro have said so

 

[butchna]

I’m startled by your infatuation with me. I stated my opinion on the matter based off the info I have been given. I can’t help it if it doesn’t meet your qualification of good info. Seems like you forget this is a message board and not espn.com.

But you cite your MESSAGE as INFO...and it’s a wobbly OPINION. Only reason you keep my interest...which I can understand would be misinterpreted as infatuation by an uninteresting specimen such as yourself.

 

[LA Vol]

Osborne's waiver fell under the 100-mile rule. He was transferring back to a school in his home town to be with his family. His transfer was prompted by his girlfriend's having a baby. The girlfriend and their support systems were in Charlotte and he wanted to be there to help raise his newborn daughter. His transfer coincided with the baby's birth. So I would surmise that compliance filed under those grounds, which should-- and did-- result in immediate eligibility.

Pruitt's letter was something entirely different and he probably wasn't involved with the case prep at all.

Edit: I see that Devo just posted this. Yes, that was a motivating reason for his transfer-- more than PT.

 

[TrueVolsGBOInsider]

Is anybody other than one poster arguing anything other than Michigan isn't cooperating and is thus holding up this waiver? No. So we have consensus, yes?

Aubrey has been here since January, if Michigan and JH were the only hiccup in the process then we woulda been hearing about it as the sole issue months ago.

 

[BruinVol]

Osborne's waiver fell under the 100-mile rule. He was transferring back to a school in his home town to be with his family. His transfer was prompted by his girlfriend's having a baby. The girlfriend and their support systems were in Charlotte and he wanted to be there to help raise his newborn daughter. His transfer coincided with the baby's birth. So I would surmise that compliance filed under those grounds, which should-- and did-- result in immediate eligibility.

Pruitt's letter was something entirely different and he probably wasn't involved with the case prep at all.

He had a great case then. He should have been granted a waiver even if Pruitt acted like CJH