'24 GA EDGE Kameryn Fountain (USC commit)

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#777
Woodlawn VOL said:
Tennessee would have taken them to court and won. The NCAA was never even going to think about going there with us or any big power 5 school. Tennessee turned its own self in and got rid of everyone involved. No way we were ever even considered to get that. No way
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Agreed. The point is some think they knew the death penalty was never even possible. That’s impossible to know. The NCAA could have given us the death penalty. They didn’t. But they could have.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Agreed. The point is some think they knew the death penalty was never even possible. That’s impossible to know. The NCAA could have given us the death penalty. They didn’t. But they could have.
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No one speculated that UT would get the death penalty. No media outlet, no sports journalist, no one at UT. It just wasn’t going to happen. Yes, the NCAA “could have” given UT the death penalty. They “could” give Michigan the death penalty for sign stealing. But they won’t. Giving UT (or Michigan) the death penalty would mean getting sued out of existence. It was never going to happen.

You’re arguing that it was “on the table,” when Tennessee didn’t even get a bowl ban. The idiocy of your position is surpassed only by your refusal to abandon it in the face of all the evidence. It’s okay to admit you’re wrong every once in awhile. It’s part of being an adult. You were wrong. Everyone knows it but you.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Stop thinking you know this as fact. You don’t.
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There's a repeat violator requirement in NCAA rules that we never met. There was no lack on institutional control charge either. You might want to actually read the NCAA manual.....

SMU was put on probation 7x from 1974-1985.
 
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NighthawkVol said:
No one speculated that UT would get the death penalty. No media outlet, no sports journalist, no one at UT. It just wasn’t going to happen. Yes, the NCAA “could have” given UT the death penalty. They “could” give Michigan the death penalty for sign stealing. But they won’t. Giving UT (or Michigan) the death penalty would mean getting sued out of existence. It was never going to happen.

You’re arguing that it was “on the table,” when Tennessee didn’t even get a bowl ban. The idiocy of your position is surpassed only by your refusal to abandon it in the face of all the evidence. It’s okay to admit you’re wrong every once in awhile. It’s part of being an adult. You were wrong. Everyone knows it but you.
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Though IMPROBABLE, it was POSSIBLE, and you can bet the risk of that or some OTHER serious variant of punishment (i.e. bowl bans and schollie cuts), was being shared by our competition for the hearts and minds of prospects. EACH player and their support group would be impacted to different levels. That coupled with the famous DELPLETED roster FACT SET had to be involved in the risk/reward calculations in those homes. Especially when we were in short straw situations.

It was a factor till it wasn't. The individual playing time potential as an offset has it's limitations due to TEAM strength considerations. Closing ground on signing day vs the AL and GA's did not seem likely under ANY real cloud and unknowns when sold by multiple competitors are clouds like it or not. SMU redo risk or not.
 
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GUNTERSVOL said:
Though IMPROBABLE, it was POSSIBLE, and you can bet the risk of that or some OTHER serious variant of punishment (i.e. bowl bans and schollie cuts), was being shared by our competition for the hearts and minds of prospects. EACH player and their support group would be impacted to different levels. That coupled with the famous DELPLETED roster FACT SET had to be involved in the risk/reward calculations in those homes. Especially when we were in short straw situations.

It was a factor till it wasn't. The individual playing time potential as an offset has it's limitations due to TEAM strength considerations. Closing ground on signing day vs the AL and GA's did not seem likely under ANY real cloud and unknowns when sold by multiple competitors are clouds like it or not. SMU redo risk or not.
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I agree that the NCAA cloud was a factor. A bowl ban was definitely on the table. But the death penalty wasn’t a realistic possibility, for reasons that have already been mentioned.
 
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CAVPUT said:
Good try!
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NighthawkVol said:
I agree that the NCAA cloud was a factor. A bowl ban was definitely on the table. But the death penalty wasn’t a realistic possibility, for reasons that have already been mentioned.
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I think most rational fans and especially prospects knew the TERM "death penalty" was a euphemism for EXTREMELY serious sanctions, though undefined, due to the notoriety on the sports channels of the CORNBREAD investigation being fanned by our competitors. That was out there for sure.
 
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OrangeVolMan said:
I know it as much as you think there was a chance they were going to give it to us.

They won’t do it again because of money involved. Also, the only reason they would give it is if players were getting paid. Well that’s legal now.
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More conjecture. Keep it up.
 
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