'25 GA S Lagonza Hayward (Florida)

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SGMVols said:
“Make the decision. You’re either a Vol or you’re not.” -Tony Vitello

He had the best pitcher in the country walk out on him and did not care at all.

No one kid is ever bigger than the program. Life will go on.
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This times infinity
 
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vols 30 said:
I mean, are changes really needed if you make the playoff? Isn't that the goal? The constant bashing of the Oline coach is ridiculous. How many yards rushing did we have this year?

I'm sure a couple of coaches may leave anyway.
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Well, like I said earlier in the thread, I think two things can be true. I think you can be pleased with this year’s product and think the staff did a great job on the field accomplishing what they did and also believe that recruiting isn’t as good as you’d expect it to be from a program with a top NIL collective and made the college football playoffs.

I assume everyone on the board probably wants the same thing, which is to maintain this consistency and not have drastic swings in season success. To do that, it probably does require us to recruit a bit better than we are now.

If they can do that without firing staff, I’m all for it.
 
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Go Fight Win said:
Not sure what is worse

Both pathetic imo
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I think kids get over and past being roasted by other kids a lot faster than us old farts. So I'd much rather the class be firing at him than fans. They can work that out between themselves. Grown-up fanatics (maybe an oxymoron) tend to double down on social media stupidity rather than working things out. jmho
 
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I must have missed it...say, this kid was in Gainesville this past weekend? Was it a just a day visit, yesterday...or, last week and i just missed it somehow? Florida was in Tallahassee this weekend...

This is a weird one...but, nowhere near the first, and even farther from the last. I've been following recruiting for 35 years, and I've yet to see a class without weird ones scattered throughout, all across the country, every program, at some time or another. Hayward's recruitment will be joined by others, in just this class, to be weird, crazy, unpredictable, shaedy.

After his UGA visit, he was on some podcast, and he seemed to be as genuine as can be, it was literally all over his face, his feelings. Whenever asked about the UGA visit, he said all the right things, it was cool, it was fun; but, whenever Neyland came up, it went from ear to ear. He even said, NOTHING compares.

Now days, I keep recruiting in perspective, and look at it through a 17, 18 year-old lens, just kids with no prior affiliation to the team I love. After that interview, I said, "Yeah, that kid is going nowhere". Truly thought he was locked in. This is a surprise, and a real disappointment if it holds.
 
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TheMookieMonster said:
Well, like I said earlier in the thread, I think two things can be true. I think you can be pleased with this year’s product and think the staff did a great job on the field accomplishing what they did and also believe that recruiting isn’t as good as you’d expect it to be from a program with a top NIL collective and made the college football playoffs.

I assume everyone on the board probably wants the same thing, which is to maintain this consistency and not have drastic swings in season success. To do that, it probably does require us to recruit a bit better than we are now.

If they can do that without firing staff, I’m all for it.
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were a playoff seed with a top ten class and the number 1 class having the smallest top average in in like 2 decades, the parody is easily made in development
 
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Hubbs was talking about it last night on their Volquest Breakdown and it sounds like people around him were shopping around trying to get different deals and Florida ultimately ended up offering the biggest bag

Makes sense why so many of our commits seemed to be mad with his decision.
 
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rockytop25 said:
Hubbs was talking about it last night on their Volquest Breakdown and it sounds like people around him were shopping around trying to get different deals and Florida ultimately ended up offering the biggest bag

Makes sense why so many of our commits seemed to be mad with his decision.
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If his family didn't know he was decommitting, it sounds like another agent/handler situation. smh
 
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This is the rough part about college sports. You are dealing with 18 year old kids. Likely he found a better NIL offer (sounds like it is Florida).
 
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KingVFL said:
The only way we’ll get to a different level in recruiting at this point is by hiring, developing or prioritizing coaches who are great recruiters.
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The ability of a coach to recruit is less important than it's ever been. I'd rather have coaches who can develop, scheme, and implement culture than great recruiters at this point. NIL is the primary recruiting tool by a long shot now. This was clearly an NIL steal.

Edit: Nevermind. I saw your follow-up. And it makes sense.
 
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MemphisVol3 said:
If his family didn't know he was decommitting, it sounds like another agent/handler situation. smh
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The bad part about that is generally you’ve got someone looking out for themselves instead of the recruit. Florida makes some crazy offers sometimes, greases the right hand then doesn’t follow through on their financial promises. Kid is naive AF if that’s where he lands. Idk if we have the best offer but I do know he will get what’s been promised to him with Spyre if he comes here.
 
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TheMookieMonster said:
Well, like I said earlier in the thread, I think two things can be true. I think you can be pleased with this year’s product and think the staff did a great job on the field accomplishing what they did and also believe that recruiting isn’t as good as you’d expect it to be from a program with a top NIL collective and made the college football playoffs.

I assume everyone on the board probably wants the same thing, which is to maintain this consistency and not have drastic swings in season success. To do that, it probably does require us to recruit a bit better than we are now.

If they can do that without firing staff, I’m all for it.
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I agree with this, but I'd just say that I think the recruiting combined with the portal adds we've made that last 3 years has been plenty good enough... Presently, the future classes are off to fantastic starts. I think the frustrating thing with the latest developments in this class is that we got these guys committed. It's 3 days before signing day. We're have a great season, in there playoffs, great nil, etc... And we're losing kids to a program that we've beaten twice inn the last 3 years and has been perceived as a dumpster fire until 3 weeks ago?

So there's a feeling of 'what else do we have to do' just to keep the kids we've already got?

I know it sounds like whining.. And I hate that. We're not the only program dealing with that right now either, that probably thinks it shouldn't have to...

But I get the frustration... But I won't dwell on it, well at least not any more.😂
 
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