'25 GA S Lagonza Hayward (Florida)

[GAV4L]

LOL, you’re clueless

So why are fans in here complaining about momentum now that a recruit flipped?

Either that's the case or we have bigger problems than we think.

 

[GAV4L]

Recruiting should be better than this…

Considering all the momentum we have being in the playoffs, absolutely.

 

[GAV4L]

A coach who pulled his team together to end the season. They knocked Ole Miss ot of the playoffs.

He's 18-19 overall with a 7-5 season in his 3rd year.

He stinks.

 

[BigALWiLson]

Where is our momentum on the trail then?

Our class is freaking basically full. This kid has bought into whatever he is being sold it sucks but the world doesn't always turn our way. Florida is benefitting from FSU sucking and showing some life. We do well in the portal it is not the end of the world.

 

[overseasorange2]

Recruiting should be better than this…

I agree. Heupel gets a 10-2 record this year. Beats both Bama and Florida! Is in the playoffs. Recruits a stable of stud QB's.

What else can he do???

 

[Walkman]

Top 10 class plus filling holes in the portal is working well.

 

[NighthawkVol]

So why are fans in here complaining about momentum now that a recruit flipped?

Either that's the case or we have bigger problems than we think.

Well I always judge the state of the program based on what “the fans” think. That’s the smart approach, of course.

 

[overseasorange2]

I can honestly say this stuff doesn't affect me at all. Actually, I kinda would like to see schools keep commitments silent until signing day. I'm long past the day of counting a recruit in the fold just because he made a commitment. Maybe we can change it to "i might come play here IDK yet" thing instead of commitment. . If this year shows anything...throwing a bunch of money at players and "loading up" doesn't always work out best. TBD i guess.

OR something like, " Presently, I think I might have an inkling to play for...........". That is about the extent of a "Commitment" today.

 

[Adam Sandler]

We can get him back when they fire Napier next year

Has that ever actually happened in the NIL era? Where we missed out on a recruit the first time and they came back through the portal?

 

[walkenvol]

Yup, the NEGAVOLS will, all the while, Coach Hype will get the pieces he needs each year in the portal. We have the coach, the coaches, the players, the fanbase AND the MONEY to get to the playoffs every year!!!

Seems to me getting to the playoffs ever year out of the SEC will prove to be very challenging. There are 7 teams this season that have been in contention with close losses and upsets having shaped the standings. NIL has brought more parity and having 2-3 programs dominating every season isn’t looking likely.

 

[GAV4L]

Wondering who Florida has on their staff that are excellent recruiters. I know they don’t have any good football coaches on staff so I’m curious where they are making their pay

No great recruiters on their staff.

It's the boosters whose names are on their facilities and stadiums recruiting these kids.

 

[Jackcrevol]

Where is our momentum on the trail then?

in a mcdonald's bag, back seat of a 1989 Chevrolet Berretta, bought at Gatory Country. Spyre ain't dumb.

 

[therickbol]

No great recruiters on their staff.

It's the boosters whose names are on their facilities and stadiums recruiting these kids.

It is the boosters. My friend is a huge UF fan. He said their insiders basically told them that the big money boosters went to the AD and said we are not giving you the money to buy out Napier's contact. Instead we will give you money to significantly upgrade the roster.

 

[walkenvol]

Look .....

We are getting ready to play in the 1st annual 12 team College Football Playoff, while Florida will be getting ready to play in the Citrus Bowl, Gator Bowl or the ReliaQuest Bowl, with the players who don't opt-out of the game .... but if you want to kiss their butts? That's fine.

.... and I'm glad that Billy Napier has survived to coach another year. He will never take them to the College Football Playoff. He will only ever win just enough to keep from getting fired every year. That is exactly the type of coach a Tennessee fan should want Florida to have.

The guy who took us to OT at our place this season? Sure doesn’t seem like he’s leading them towards being uncompetitive?

 

[rockytop25]

No great recruiters on their staff.

It's the boosters whose names are on their facilities and stadiums recruiting these kids.

Maybe unpopular opinion, but I could care less who brings the kids in (NIL, Staff, Neyland) as long as they come and the staff can put a good product on the field

Heupel has gone 10-2 in 2 out of the last 3 seasons, that's all that matters.

 

[PYSCHO]

Even 7-5 Michigan has a better class than we do now.

and 9 out of 10 yrs they will just like ND OSU ALA FL USC. We are not going to beat these teams out as much as they beat us out. Portal and player selection is real important and development is imperative. We will be in shouting distance but we are still turning around 20 yrs of crap and is not going to happen now. This is not instant going to take a bit

 

[BowlBrother85]

The guy who took us to OT at our place this season? Sure doesn’t seem like he’s leading them towards being uncompetitive?

That's one game. They were also blown out at home by Miami and Texas A&M .... and blown out on the road by Texas.

Billy Napier's 18-19 record through his first 3 seasons at Florida is worse than Ron Zook's (23-15), Will Muschamp's (22-16), Jim McElwain's (22-12) and Dan Mullen's (29-9) through their first 3 seasons at Florida - AND BY A LOT.

.... and after having a top 5 rated class for most of the 2023 recruiting cycle, it fell apart just before the early signing period began last December, and they finished with a pretty mediocre class.

Billy Napier is shaping up to be the worst head football coach that Florida has had since pre-Spurrier.

 

[HalfullVol]

Maybe unpopular opinion, but I could care less who brings the kids in (NIL, Staff, Neyland) as long as they come and the staff can put a good product on the field

Heupel has gone 10-2 in 2 out of the last 3 seasons, that's all that matters.

Word

 

[Ned Ray McWorkher]

I agree. Heupel gets a 10-2 record this year. Beats both Bama and Florida! Is in the playoffs. Recruits a stable of stud QB's.

What else can he do???

Beat UGA.

Top 10 class plus filling holes in the portal is working well.

Except against UGA.

 

[peaygolf]

It is the boosters. My friend is a huge UF fan. He said their insiders basically told them that the big money boosters went to the AD and said we are not giving you the money to buy out Napier's contact. Instead we will give you money to significantly upgrade the roster.

That has to be what's going on.........

Napier was told he has one year...........The buyout check is going to Recruiting (NIL)

and the fact FSU is a dumpster fire

 

[Visidog]

That's one game. They were also blown out at home by Miami and Texas A&M .... and blown out on the road by Texas.

Billy Napier's 18-19 record through his first 3 seasons at Florida is worse than Ron Zook's (23-15), Will Muschamp's (22-16), Jim McElwain's (22-12) and Dan Mullen's (29-9) through their first 3 seasons at Florida - AND BY A LOT.

.... and after having a top 5 rated class for most of the 2023 recruiting cycle, it fell apart just before the early signing period began last December, and they finished with a pretty mediocre class.

Billy Napier is shaping up to be the worst head football coach that Florida has had since pre-Spurrier.

Napier is a weird case. The results are middling at best, and often poor. He’s had recruiting issues absolutely blow up in his face and so many guys have transferred out. And yet he’s committed to a process and it seems to be slowly building. Lagway is legit and there is other young talent that is playing well.

I keep waiting for the whole thing to fall apart.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

We can get him back when they fire Napier next year

Yeah most thought he wouldn’t even make it through this season. I wouldn’t count on him getting fired anytime soon imo.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Just "being in the playoffs" isn't a momentum builder in the 12 team era that it was in the 4 team era.

Need to win a game or two at least to build real momentum from it. But got to be in it to have a chance to win playoff games. That is step 1. Need to take the next step.

This is beyond dumb. Getting to the playoffs with a 10-2 decried is a huge momentum builder.

 

[GAV4L]

This is beyond dumb. Getting to the playoffs with a 10-2 decried is a huge momentum builder.

Not like it was in the 4 team era.

it still is one, but have to do something in the playoffs now for it to really stick,

pretty soon we'll see coaches get fired for making the playoffs but not getting past the first round.

In the 4 team playoff days, that would've never happened (see Lincoln riley at OU).

 

[SGMVols]

This. Heupel needs be recruiting in the top 5-7 year in and year out to stay in the same lane as Bama, UGA, Texas, and what is looking like a resurgent Florida…

Funny how he always needs to be one or two spots above wherever he is