‘23 GA SDE Victor Burley (Clemson commit)

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Boston Vol said:
Well Harbaugh took a non-scholarship player at San Diego named Josh Johnson and turned him into a guy who spent over a decade in the NFL. He goes to San Francisco where Alex Smith was widely considered a bust, and turns him into a pro bowl Quarterback. Then goes to Ann Arbor and turns Jake Rudock, who had basically been run out of the Iowa program, into a All Big 10 quarterback and NFL draft pick. Then nearly goes to the playoffs with Wilton Speight, after turning the former three star recruit into a all big 10 selection. And then what he’s done the past two years with Cade McNamara,. So yes it seems that Harbaugh is “good with quarterbacks.”
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Your Harbaugh love is laughable. Smith didn’t make the pro bowl under Harbaugh. Wow Johnson was a 5th round pick that’s done nothing in the NFL. Tyler Bray has also spent almost a decade in the NFL. Big deal. Look at Ruddocks numbers in his last year at Iowa vs Michigan. They are pretty similar in all honesty. He threw 4 more TDs and also threw more INTs. Yes he improved his accuracy some and passing yards. But let’s not pretend like Harbaugh improved him a ton. He didn’t.

Speight played one full season where he put up JG like numbers. Oh he was a 3*? So was Johnny Manziel. McNamara? Ok what’s Harbaugh done? His stats are almost JG like. Given that he has offers from USC, Bama, UGA, ND, TN and was the # 1 player in Nevada and the #7 ranked pro style QB, he has been underwhelming. So don’t act like Harbaugh took a lowly QB and turned him into a stud. He hasn’t. Michigan has had great defenses with Harbaugh at the helm.

So no Harbaugh hasn’t been anywhere near as good with QBs as you and some like to say.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Your Harbaugh love is laughable. Smith didn’t make the pro bowl under Harbaugh. Wow Johnson was a 5th round pick that’s done nothing in the NFL. Tyler Bray has also spent almost a decade in the NFL. Big deal. Look at Ruddocks numbers in his last year at Iowa vs Michigan. They are pretty similar in all honesty. He threw 4 more TDs and also threw more INTs. Yes he improved his accuracy some and passing yards. But let’s not pretend like Harbaugh improved him a ton. He didn’t.

Speight played one full season where he put up JG like numbers. Oh he was a 3*? So was Johnny Manziel. McNamara? Ok what’s Harbaugh done? His stats are almost JG like. Given that he has offers from USC, Bama, UGA, ND, TN and was the # 1 player in Nevada and the #7 ranked pro style QB, he has been underwhelming. So don’t act like Harbaugh took a lowly QB and turned him into a stud. He hasn’t. Michigan has had great defenses with Harbaugh at the helm.

So no Harbaugh hasn’t been anywhere near as good with QBs as you and some like to say.
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And your harbaugh hate is laughable. Just because you don’t like his personality doesn’t mean that he isn’t a good coach. But please tell me again that he’s basically no better than Brady Hoke. He isn’t the savior that Michigan fans thought or hoped he’d be, but he’s also been pretty damn good for a program that had gone seven years mired in irrelevance. And yes the fact that he took a non-scholarship player and turned him into a guy who was drafted and played a decade in the league is pretty damn impressive.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
How long was Crompton out of high school before he became good? Harbaugh is good with QBs? Lol. How so? He had the luxury of getting Andrew Luck. At Michigan all of his QBs have been below average. He has caught on. Towards the end of last year he showed improvement.
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And Milton still hasn’t showed any improvement yet
 
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Vols1117 said:
Some can be coached up and some can’t . Since he has been out of high school, he has been around coaches that are good with quarterbacks, Heup and Harbaugh. Should have caught on by now. College 3yrs
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I think your giving Harbaugh way more credit than he deserves… how many qbs has he coached up to become record breaking qbs? Sorry, but where it comes to developing qbs Heupel is leaps and bounds ahead of Harbaugh.

Obviously, you are entitled to your opinion & if you want to write a player off that’s for you to decide. I choose to believe there’s still hope that there can be improvement.
 
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“I am still trying to take it slow, but working to cut things down and make that first move,” Burley told On3. “I have kept my options open, I have tried to take everything in, but I am thinking about cutting my list down to at least 10 after spring and I could commit before the season.”

Nothing is set in stone for Burley though. He visited Clemson, Georgia, and Tennessee in January. He is set to visit Florida, Florida State, and South Carolina in March
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After time in Athens, Burley made it back to Knoxville. He was there for a game in the fall and the staff at Tennessee has put the Vols right in the thick of this race.
“Tennessee has surprised me. The new coaching staff has made a big impact on me. The old staff offered me, but this new staff is different. I like coach Rodney Garner a lot and I think coach Josh Heupel is doing a great job.
“Coach Garner has coached a lot of great defensive linemen and when I am up there, I just have fun. The new staff has done a great job with the players, they are recruiting me hard, and I will probably be back in the spring.”
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- ON3
 
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Boston Vol said:
And your harbaugh hate is laughable. Just because you don’t like his personality doesn’t mean that he isn’t a good coach. But please tell me again that he’s basically no better than Brady Hoke. He isn’t the savior that Michigan fans thought or hoped he’d be, but he’s also been pretty damn good for a program that had gone seven years mired in irrelevance. And yes the fact that he took a non-scholarship player and turned him into a guy who was drafted and played a decade in the league is pretty damn impressive.
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Harbrough offense works in the Big ten but not in the playoffs if they make it, that’s his biggest problem…also they don’t get the talent the SEC does but you can say that about most programs outside of Clemson and Ohio state
 
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Boston Vol said:
And your harbaugh hate is laughable. Just because you don’t like his personality doesn’t mean that he isn’t a good coach. But please tell me again that he’s basically no better than Brady Hoke. He isn’t the savior that Michigan fans thought or hoped he’d be, but he’s also been pretty damn good for a program that had gone seven years mired in irrelevance. And yes the fact that he took a non-scholarship player and turned him into a guy who was drafted and played a decade in the league is pretty damn impressive.
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Harbaugh is overrated tbh and has struggled mightily trying to produce a potent offense. He may have had some poor talent (QB wise) to work with but he's no guru.
 
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GregAmsler said:
HE ACTUALLY SAID, “not enough to say he has figured it out…” And yet you reply by inserting different words in his mouth, implying that he said Milton is fixed.

When you only think in absolutes, other people’s ability to think in nuanced terms is confusing, isn’t it?
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Only a Sith deals in absolutes!
 
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