Game Thread: #13/10 LSU (23-4, 10-3) @ Tennessee (16-9, 9-4 SEC) 2/25/24 12:00 pm EST ESPN

[UT Challenger]

Hmm I kinda have a different pov. Most wbb programs operate at a loss. Especially when the coaching staff salary is as high as LSU. However, what’s not in that article is the eyeballs and national press they’ve brought to the university. So technically the checks are cashing, but in a number of ways. When it comes to their nil I think it’s solid. They got an couple to cough up 1.5 million for their new locker room. They seem to have very willing donors.

I am not sure how all of that works. Just thought it was interesting the women’s basketball was 8 million in the red. I don’t know maybe women’s basketball is like that also. LSU does seem to be committed to raising up their women's basketball team.

 

[Orange_Mamba]

Oh my. Not the way to go about it

That’s the sad part you can’t even claim quality wins to make a case for your team to be in the tournament.

 

[Tnphil]

"We play really well at times"....Who doesn't?

 

[Rooster1]

a team not in the top 3 of WCBB isn't relevant. That's the truth. So, KJH...where does that leave the LV team?

LSU entered the tourney ranked 13th last year……this year there are a legit 10-12 teams that can make the run, maybe 14 or so actually.

 

[Volfan2012]

Not quite. A judge issued an injunction, effectively negating the NCAA rules until a trial determines the outcome of the action by TN and VA. The trial will probably confirm the demise of the NCAA rule, but calling it a win at this point is not accurate.

Until a trial will be months so law is in effect until then and from last Friday. So basically it is law until a trial finalizes it but you can operate under it now. We know this could go to trial win there go up to another court all the way to the Supreme court. Until then negotiations can begin with athletes and would only end if lost at trial which hardly seems likely.

 

[Volfan2012]

She didn’t say exactly those words, but that’s how it came across. Can’t plead your way into the tournament.
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The tourney is a reality if they beat Texas A&M as still a nine seed as of today. Only way to play yourself out is to lose to A&M, Sc, and in the tourney. Still might get in but may go all the way down to a play in game.

 

[alexvol]

I think if we beat A&M that will move us up to at least a #9 seed if not #8. It would be the second best win on our resume in terms of NET rating. And then if we beat Alabama in the SEC tournament, that replaces A&M as our second best win.

IMO our resume is already better than the other 9 seeds in Creme's Bracketology - certainly Mississippi State, who we have the H2H win against (at their place) and they've lost 4 in a row, including to Florida and Kentucky (both at home!!).

Massey/HHS projects we would beat any of the current 8-10 seeds on a neutral court, except HHS has us losing to UNLV.

It just seems alien to me to see most folks hoping for a NCAA Tourney seed of 8/9 and those like me who are just hoping they make the Tourney.How many times in the past 43 years have such discussions taken place .The fact is if this team makes the Tourney ,it is likely to go out in the 1st or 2nd rounds. Both Coaching and play is tooooooo erratic to go any further.....play one good game and the next one is likely to be a real clunker especially if it is against good competition.

 

[alexvol]

Until a trial will be months so law is in effect until then and from last Friday. So basically it is law until a trial finalizes it but you can operate under it now. We know this could go to trial win there go up to another court all the way to the Supreme court. Until then negotiations can begin with athletes and would only end if lost at trial which hardly seems likely.

What law are you talking about ? NCAA does not enact laws they enact rules and those rules that apply to NIL have been totally negated and the NCAA can not do anything in the way of investigation until the trial ultimately has been decided ....that is if it goes to trial .The NCAA and Universities would be well served to come to an agreement on some rules that meet current law and get the states to agree on same and revise their laws concurrently.Outside of that it will take Congressional action to make any difference.If this action goes to trial it will be decided in favor of the States of Tennessee and Virginia and in essence the NCAA is out of business ...kaput .

 

[Deebowbear]

She didn’t say exactly those words, but that’s how it came across. Can’t plead your way into the tournament.
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Boy she got that so damn wrong don’t know would like there playing must need glasses to pass eye test omg

 

[feathersax]

LSU entered the tourney ranked 13th last year……this year there are a legit 10-12 teams that can make the run, maybe 14 or so actually.

Which only means that the polls were innacurate & invalid, & that any team with talent can make leaps & bounds. Still not convinced.

 

[Deebowbear]

Oh my. Not the way to go about it

I don’t if she knows what we look like playing with coaching blows my mind

 

[Deebowbear]

She can transfer along with a few others, we need to build a new roster that can compete.

Make sure Kellie transfers to

 

[Deebowbear]

With this coaching staff would not be better, don’t blame the players for coaching issues, think several will leave if Kelli stays just like her previous talented recruits. Players talent regressed Under this watch. Rickea was actually 6 for 18, should she keep shooting or maybe coaching staff should develop an offensive strategy?

I doubt any good players want to come here if they watch except the money

 

[Rooster1]

Which only means that the polls were innacurate & invalid, & that any team with talent can make leaps & bounds. Still not convinced.

But you said any team not ranked in top 3 of WCBB was irrelevant….then you say any team with talent can make leaps and bounds, you are arguing both sides of the issue btw, which makes no sense of course. You just like to be argumentative without thinking your thoughts through. If you handle firearms, be extra careful of your feet, wouldn’t want to shoot yourself in your own foot again. “That’s the truth”.

feathersax said:
“ a team not in the top 3 of WCBB isn't relevant. That's the truth. So, KJH...where does that leave the LV team?”

 

[Volfan2012]

What law are you talking about ? NCAA does not enact laws they enact rules and those rules that apply to NIL have been totally negated and the NCAA can not do anything in the way of investigation until the trial ultimately has been decided ....that is if it goes to trial .The NCAA and Universities would be well served to come to an agreement on some rules that meet current law and get the states to agree on same and revise their laws concurrently.Outside of that it will take Congressional action to make any difference.If this action goes to trial it will be decided in favor of the States of Tennessee and Virginia and in essence the NCAA is out of business ...kaput .

NCAA had rules that you could not discuss NIL deals with high school athletes. The state of Tennessee attorney general along with the attorney general of Virginia took the NCAA to court. The Judge ruled that the NCAA rules on NIL were unlawful and so now there are no rules and the University of Tennessee and any other college in Tennessee of Virginia can freely talk about NIL deals with high school athletes. This became lawful last Friday and will remain so until they again go to court where in court would have to totally reverse itself to reinstate the NCAA rules. I don't see that happening so until then no NCAA rules are valid and Tennessee can make NIL deals legally with high school and portal transfers. Whether this helps Lady Vol basketball remains to be seen. There was a lot of talk about a lot of other schools making deals regardless of NCAA rules before while Tennessee under those rules could not or would not because it was illegal. That is no longer true and if there was cheating going on the playing field has now been leveled for at least the next several months.

 

[Decker Moss]

She didn’t say exactly those words, but that’s how it came across. Can’t plead your way into the tournament.
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This is where we are now. We have to pass the eye test to get into the NCAA tournament. This is getting as bad or worse than Hollyball.

 

[37620VOL]

Which only means that the polls were innacurate & invalid, & that any team with talent can make leaps & bounds. Still not convinced.

Going into the NCAAT, LSU had just been beaten by the LVs. I'm pretty sure we were unranked until we beat them... on a neutral court. Where would you have ranked LSU at that point?

 

[Orange_Mamba]

The tourney is a reality if they beat Texas A&M as still a nine seed as of today. Only way to play yourself out is to lose to A&M, Sc, and in the tourney. Still might get in but may go all the way down to a play in game.

Might be out the tourney by the second round. If we stay 4th we run into Bama in the 2nd round. If we lose one of the last 2 we end up behind Bama we run into SC 2nd round.

 

[Volfan2012]

I am not sure how all of that works. Just thought it was interesting the women’s basketball was 8 million in the red. I don’t know maybe women’s basketball is like that also. LSU does seem to be committed to raising up their women's basketball team.

They decided that 8 million is not to much to have a winning womens basketball team same thing applies to Sc who loses that as well. Tennessee loses three or four million less, but who really is getting the better benefit for their money? Most of their losses is on coaches salaries and where we lose less. If we want to hire a highly regarded coach ours will shoot up as well to about the same amount of money loss. So the decisions is do you want to save four million and stay where we are or spend it and be in competition with them. That is the question that should get answered at seasons end.

 

[Rooster1]

They decided that 8 million is not to much to have a winning womens basketball team same thing applies to Sc who loses that as well. Tennessee loses three or four million less, but who really is getting the better benefit for their money? Most of their losses is on coaches salaries and where we lose less. If we want to hire a highly regarded coach ours will shoot up as well to about the same amount of money loss. So the decisions is do you want to save four million and stay where we are or spend it and be in competition with them. That is the question that should get answered at seasons end.

SC does NOT lose $8 million a year on WBB.

“On the money side of things, the UofSC women’s basketball program brought home $9,537,698 in revenue and paid out $9,537,698 in total expenses. On the positive side, this means the program didn’t lose any money - and that’s not something every college sports program can claim.”

 

[Volfan2012]

Might be out the tourney by the second round. If we stay 4th we run into Bama in the 2nd round. If we lose one of the last 2 we end up behind Bama we run into SC 2nd round.

We beat A&M we'll get an NCAA invite no matter what happens going forward. We need to win one more and SC is not happening. It will be a low seed like 10 as were projected as 8 or 9 now. Once in the NCAA we probably won't last long still would extend the record of being the only team to make all 42 NCAA tourneys. Were ending the season after the next two games as number one team in strength of schedule.

 

[Volfan2012]

SC does NOT lose $8 million a year on WBB.

I think your wrong on that think I saw where they lost at least that much. They lose a lot more than we do for sure.

 

[feathersax]

But you said any team not ranked in top 3 of WCBB was irrelevant….then you say any team with talent can make leaps and bounds, you are arguing both sides of the issue btw, which makes no sense of course. You just like to be argumentative without thinking your thoughts through. If you handle firearms, be extra careful of your feet, wouldn’t want to shoot yourself in your own foot again.

feathersax said:
“ a team not in the top 3 of WCBB isn't relevant. That's the truth. So, KJH...where does that leave the LV team?”

U go your way, then. It's all FINE.

 

[Rooster1]

I think your wrong on that think I saw where they lost at least that much. They lose a lot more than we do for sure.

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”“On the money side of things, the UofSC women’s basketball program brought home $9,537,698 in revenue and paid out $9,537,698 in total expenses. On the positive side, this means the program didn’t lose any money - and that’s not something every college sports program can claim.”

 

[Volfan2012]

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”“On the money side of things, the UofSC women’s basketball program brought home $9,537,698 in revenue and paid out $9,537,698 in total expenses. On the positive side, this means the program didn’t lose any money - and that’s not something every college sports program can claim.”

This must have been the last season. I saw where they were losing big money for a lot of seasons.