Game Thread: (7/7) Lady Vols 59 - (RV/RV ) Florida 84

Insomnia-- I remember when this season started,-- I wasn't sure they would win many games. They started playing together more like a team after Burrell got injured. Are they depending on her again to do everything? Key is not getting her double/doubles every game. Dye? and yes, we lost Green, but I don't think that should be the reason for the collapse. Maybe teams just saw our weaknesses on tape and learned how to defend us?
 
Insomnia-- I remember when this season started,-- I wasn't sure they would win many games. They started playing together more like a team after Burrell got injured. Are they depending on her again to do everything? Key is not getting her double/doubles every game. Dye? and yes, we lost Green, but I don't think that should be the reason for the collapse. Maybe teams just saw our weaknesses on tape and learned how to defend us?[/QUOTE
Could be all of the above, but my personal opinion is Tess having to leave the SL for safety protocols hurt us. It allowed Rae back in the SL and makes for an awkward conversation to tell your AA candidate they’re back coming off the bench. I like our spacing a lot more with Tess in the game. She doesn’t try to do too much and frees the lane for JH, Dye and Key to move more freely.
 
Insomnia-- I remember when this season started,-- I wasn't sure they would win many games. They started playing together more like a team after Burrell got injured. Are they depending on her again to do everything? Key is not getting her double/doubles every game. Dye? and yes, we lost Green, but I don't think that should be the reason for the collapse. Maybe teams just saw our weaknesses on tape and learned how to defend us?
Also, we need Jojo and Brooklynn to be able to take care of the ball. JH and Rae are risk takers with the ball…they’re going to have higher turnovers. We need our point guards to take charge and calm the ship.
 
Agree . These coaches want to be friends with the players .. 18 TO's .. and nobody gets chewed out for them or defensive lack of effort .. pitiful effort...players and coaches
In all fairness we aren’t in the locker room at the half or after the game. She could be doing it, we’re just not aware of it.
 
In all fairness we aren’t in the locker room at the half or after the game. She could be doing it, we’re just not aware of it.
well it aint working ... needs to be publicly and at the moment of issue alot of times to get point accross .. ive PT is not involved then there is no punishment ...
 
Mark Few seems to do quite well at Gonzaga without getting in players' faces and yelling.

Somehow, Kellie was able to take a mid-major to the Sweet Sixteen without going berserk on the sidelines. And she has two assistant coaches with head coaching experience on the bench beside her.

Brooklynn got hard coaching from Coach Sam. It made BK a better guard, but it didn't automatically raise her play to the level of faster, more experienced guards. And it didn't help her at the free throw line.

I have confidence that neither the coaches nor the players are quitters like some of the "fans" who obviously know the players better than their coaches. The old saying that sports reveals character doesn't just apply to athletes and coaches.
Mark Few has way above average talent to work with.
 
In all fairness we aren’t in the locker room at the half or after the game. She could be doing it, we’re just not aware of it.
Thank you! Been preaching that sermon for awhile. KJH said she lit them up at halftime of the Ark game. Fans forget that alot more goes on that we don't see. I think it would be harmful for KJH to radically change the style that won 19 games right now and become a sideline hellion. Would look like panic and desperation.
well it aint working ... needs to be publicly and at the moment of issue alot of times to get point accross .. ive PT is not involved then there is no punishment ...
With Summit you didn't have to guess..you knew;!!
Frustrated fans want to SEE amd lnow that the players are being scolded, it makes us feel better, right? It's not necessarily effective but it sure makes us feel better. No other reason it "needs" to be public. And PT is involved, she pulled players immediately after turnovers several times last night.

The truth is turnovers have been a plague for at least a decade, even before PS left. Obviously it has to continue to be addressed and worked on, but its not as simple as public sideline tantrums and bleacher running on already tired legs. If it were, t.o.s would have disappeared from the game long ago.
 
the free throw problems are sad; each player should have solved that in the 4th grade; they are free let's get them
 
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Mark Few has way above average talent to work with.

That's not the point. Numerous posters keep talking about "what Pat would do" and "how Pat would handle it," and all would agree that Pat had exceptional talent on her roster including some of the best ever to play. It's not just about talent. It's about knowing how to get the best out of your team, including how to maximize strengths and minimize weaknesses.

I wrote about this team's mental toughness earlier. Right now that toughness is being tested. Their confidence is shaken, they're physically tired from the road and quick turnarounds, and they're running into teams that are exploiting their weaknesses. I couldn't see the game, but it sounded as though the veterans gave up at some point in the second half. Kellie's post-game comments about not having the fight needed alluded to that. She wasn't using the overtime game vs. Arkansas as an excuse, either. Coaching is a delicate balance of encouraging, demanding, cajoling, instructing, and supporting players by putting them in the best position to win.

The staff may need to rethink time out strategies to give the team opportunities to regroup and to make adjustments, remind players of strategies/assignments, and give encouragement. That might require getting a little more animated and demanding toward the team in general, but trying on a fake personality will be something the team sees through immediately. Kellie's approach is to inspire confidence, not to yell at and belittle players. That approach works for some coaches and for some players who seem to thrive on anger at the coach redirected toward opponents, but that won't work for Kellie. You can appeal to pride and honestly assess a team's (or player's) lack of effort or focus, but berating individuals in public just to placate fans will just create resentment that results in even more lack of effort.

This team can regain its confidence and drive to compete. Maybe they are more fragile than some of us thought (which actually makes the coaching job to get them to a great start more remarkable). We have witnessed some of our key players go through mental slumps in the past, and we knew that some of our close wins earlier this season were due to grinding out games more than through overwhelming talent.

Kellie's Sweet Sixteen team at Mo. State began the season with a string of losses, but they hung in there and kept fighting despite adversity (including losing a key player). Our team can recover, although we're in a valley right now while some teams are seeing dramatic improvement climbing out of their own valleys.

It may be time for the team leaders to have a closed door session to clear the air and for each player to honestly address what she will commit to doing to fix the team shortcomings.

(Too bad the fans aren't willing do the same.)
 
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Glv, that was an excellent post. I was typing while you posted; otherwise, I would have just signed onto your less-wordy and more direct thoughts.
 
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Glv, that was an excellent post. I was typing while you posted; otherwise, I would have just signed onto your less-wordy and more diect thoughts.
No prob, we're only talking to each other anyways. Of course its the nature of fan boards to be over reactionary and simplistic so most don't want to hear the hard nuances. Just reincarnate St Pat thru Kellie, have her grimace and scowl and stare and be sure its in full view of every fan, maybe make an announcement so fans can come in from the bathrooms and concession stands to watch. Then these mental midget players (who were future world leadership figures a week ago) will suddenly snap back into form.

Sure wish it were that easy!
 
Another poorly coached lady vol team. Sloppy lazy Vols
Coaching had nothing to do with this loss.Sloppy ball handling which led to turnovers which led to 28 points on those turnovers.Players lost this game pure and simple.Players did not adjust to how refs were calling the game.Our guards were being fouled on at least 50% of turnovers so what should have happened was stop dribbling close to any Florida players and pass the ball....result was an embarrassing loss.In last quarter went to a zone and double teamed the ball in an effort to speed up the game and get some turnovers to close the gap but that strategy backfired due to Florida taking care of the ball and slicing up the LV's by good zone offense .
 
I didn’t watch the game but I think this team was tired from the Arkansas game.

Yes I agree. Arkansas also got whooped by A&M. That game on Monday was long, physical and emotional. Florida has been playing really well and took full advantage. They punched us in the mouth to start the game and never looked back. We just didn’t have anything in the tank for a response. Mentally or physically.

That Arkansas game both teams had around 80 shots at the basket. That’s a lot of effort up and down and on the boards
 
It seems like we are not as effective since Rae came back into the lineup, the teamwork isn't there. She has a tendency to just dribble like hell down the court, and dribble, and dribble before putting up a desperate shot that has little chance of going in. She is playing like she did when she was a freshman. She needs to slow down and realize SHE isn't the team, stop dribbling herself into trouble and then committing a turn over.
 
It seems like we are not as effective since Rae came back into the lineup, the teamwork isn't there. She has a tendency to just dribble like hell down the court, and dribble, and dribble before putting up a desperate shot that has little chance of going in. She is playing like she did when she was a freshman. She needs to slow down and realize SHE isn't the team, stop dribbling herself into trouble and then committing a turn over.
At times it feels like she’s trying to audition for WNBA scouts rather than play as a team. She isn’t letting the game come to her and, if you ask me, is playing herself right out of a first round draft pick.
 
UCONN is gonna vaporize this team. They've fallen apart completely before our very eyes.

I would not be surprised if Tennessee pulls off the win, but they will have to dominate UConn on the backboard and be physical with them. I don't know what happened to Tennessee on the defensive end of the ball. Is it as simple as effort or have teams figured them out? Without the rebounding and defense, Tennesse is mediocre at best.
 
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I remember Rae not taking care of the ball, but her offensive output usually compensated. This reminds me of sophomore year Rae.
Remember Rae is still recovering from a serious injury and has been playing a lot of minutes due to injuries. She will do her part. They all need to look in the mirror.
 

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