Game Thread Lady Vols vs Texas

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#101
A lost to UTC, can be the difference between a #1 or #2 especially if SC, Texas AM handle business and only lose to ranked opponents, high rpi oppoenents. You are new to lady vols basketball. Well to catch you up, every game is important. Ignore losers...
 
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Pat4life said:
A lost to UTC, can be the difference between a #1 or #2 especially if SC, Texas AM handle business and only lose to ranked opponents, high rpi oppoenents. You are new to lady vols basketball. Well to catch you up, every game is important. Ignore losers...
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I've probably been a Lady Vols fan longer than you have been alive. A loss to UTC at the beginning of the season isn't anything to be proud of, but it is certainly not the travesty you are making it out to be.
 
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ivyleague said:
I've probably been a Lady Vols fan longer than you have been alive. A loss to UTC at the beginning of the season isn't anything to be proud of, but it is certainly not the travesty you are making it out to be.
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Thank you fortune teller. UTC please have a good season, that'll help. Go Lady Vols. Justifying why a lost is ok, acceptable, wow.
 
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roddo518 said:
No, she is horrible. Every time I see her in an interview it sounds like she is on the verge of tears. Unfortunately our team plays that way too. Very fragile.
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+1... Holly doesn't come across as having a head coach's demeanor -- too nice to command respect in the locker room.
 
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Volle said:
+1... Holly doesn't come across as having a head coach's demeanor -- too nice to command respect in the locker room.
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Now this is ridiculous. Too nice to command respect? Seriously? None of us has any idea what is said, or how it is said, when thousands of pairs of eyes aren't watching. I think it's pretty obvious that Holly's demeanor and temperament are very different from Pat Summitt's. She's a different individual with her own personality. That doesn't mean she isn't tough or doesn't command respect.

Besides, haven't you heard? It's the "nice" ones you have to worry about the most. When they finally go off, it tends to scare the ever loving s*** out of everyone around them. It can be very effective.
 
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I like the Reynolds and Middleton combo. You have Jordan who likes to run and push the ball. Which is good cause our post run the floor. Alexa is a great passer and shooter. Keep having Massengale and Carter off the bench to give a spark. I would start either Jaime or Jas at the three. Jaime being the better outside threat and both are 10x better defensively and at getting the ball in the post than Burdick. With Bash I think it has to do with the lineup she was much better with Jas or Jaime in the lineup to start the season. Nia and her were starting get into a groove. It just went downhill when Holly decided to put the starters back in. To me the group that started the season complemented each other, they knew their roles and was great moving without the ball. Until Holly comes to terms and get rid of that assistant coach mentality. The team won'the even sniff a final four. She's scared to be the villain.
 
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Orange_Mamba said:
The team won'the even sniff a final four. She's scared to be the villain.
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I was in agreement with what you were saying up until this point. Since when is sniffing a final four a successful season in Tennessee terms? ALOE of the blame has been put at the feet of Holly, aand I can't really argue against it for the lineups she put on the floor in the UTC game. However, at the end of the day a coach can only do so much. Speaking from experience here, the fire, energy, effort, and all out hustle that we all can agree is lacking can't be taught. Players either have it or they don't. So I think that your assessment of Holly is invalid and has no morale ground to stand on. Just my opinion, we can happily agree to disagree.
 
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mikey2smart said:
I was in agreement with what you were saying up until this point. Since when is sniffing a final four a successful season in Tennessee terms? ALOE of the blame has been put at the feet of Holly, aand I can't really argue against it for the lineups she put on the floor in the UTC game. However, at the end of the day a coach can only do so much. Speaking from experience here, the fire, energy, effort, and all out hustle that we all can agree is lacking can't be taught. Players either have it or they don't. So I think that your assessment of Holly is invalid and has no morale ground to stand on. Just my opinion, we can happily agree to disagree.
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This idea that the coach can do so much is really a ridiculous argument. A head coach is the captain of the ship. She is fully responsible for all wins and losses. She is responsible for recruiting, training, developing, coaching, practicing, organizing, counseling, rewarding, disciplining, everything. And, she gets paid very well for doing so. So, the fact that Geno and Muffet have the dominant teams in the game is because of the players? The problem is Holly did not have to earn her stripes as a head coach some where at smaller programs and have to earn her way up. That is the reality of it. So, we are having to live through her learning how to be a head coach. We will have to probably be patient because it will take some time but I want to see a little progress with her. And, hope she doesn't wreck the program in the mean time. Today, she has a chance on the national stage to show she can be an active coach, manage the game and her players, get the right combos in the game, and have defined offensive and defensive strategies that the players understand and execute. We will see.

(Oh, I forgot the most important part-motivating.)
 
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Sandvol said:
This idea that the coach can do so much is really a ridiculous argument. A head coach is the captain of the ship. She is fully responsible for all wins and losses. She is responsible for recruiting, training, developing, coaching, practicing, organizing, counseling, rewarding, disciplining, everything. And, she gets paid very well for doing so. So, the fact that Geno and Muffet have the dominant teams in the game is because of the players? The problem is Holly did not have to earn her stripes as a head coach some where at smaller programs and have to earn her way up. That is the reality of it. So, we are having to live through her learning how to be a head coach. We will have to probably be patient because it will take some time but I want to see a little progress with her. And, hope she doesn't wreck the program in the mean time. Today, she has a chance on the national stage to show she can be an active coach, manage the game and her players, get the right combos in the game, and have defined offensive and defensive strategies that the players understand and execute. We will see.
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I agree with most of what you said, however, those little intangible things like effort, energy, fire, intensity, hustle and instinct can't be taught by Holly, Geno, Muffet or any other coach we can think of. Also, those coaches had their fair share of struggles when they first started out. They weren't the big time coaches you see today in the beginning so it is rather unfair to compare Holly to them at this stage in their careers.
 
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mikey2smart said:
I agree with most of what you said, however, those little intangible things like effort, energy, fire, intensity, hustle and instinct can't be taught by Holly, Geno, Muffet or any other coach we can think of. Also, those coaches had their fair share of struggles when they first started out. They weren't the big time coaches you see today in the beginning so it is rather unfair to compare Holly to them at this stage in their careers.
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If you look at Geno's career he got it going pretty quickly. Muffet a little slower but you could see the progress. Holly inherited a dynasty. Really shouldn't have been handed to her but it is what it is.
 
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Sandvol said:
Not a bad starting 5. You could replace Jasmine with Graves but I'd go with that and then work Mass, Carter, Graves, Dunbar and Burdick.
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I say play the young ones, lets see how they fair. But to start anyone in that starting five is reward and we have to break that cycle.

Yeah, to start the game, you can sub right away. Mane, I'm so anxious for this game, of course ill have a house full (go lady vols)so many unknowns on a team full of veteran players ...ugh I hate it cos I don't know which team is going to show up.

Remember the days when knew our team was going to play hard 9 games out of 10.
 
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Pat4life said:
I say play the young ones, lets see how they fair. But to start anyone in that starting five is reward and we have to break that cycle.

Yeah, to start the game, you can sub right away. Mane, I'm so anxious for this game, of course ill have a house full (go lady vols)so many unknowns on a team full of veteran players ...ugh I hate it cos I don't know which team is going to show up.

Remember the days when knew our team was going to play hard 9 games out of 10.
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Yeah, I'll really be disappointed if she doesn't get Dunbar in the game too. Don't think she played at all against UTC. She's too good to sit the bench.
 
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Sandvol said:
Yeah, I'll really be disappointed if she doesn't get Dunbar in the game too. Don't think she played at all against UTC. She's too good to sit the bench.
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Defense, if she can defend, she'll be in the game but I would give her some of Burdick minutes for sure. I would like to see how she competes against a quality opponent and that goes for all the freshman. Come on Reynolds, Lady Vols up.

If we cant defend the dribble drive its going to be a long year.Defense is all heart. smh Go lady vols.
 
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Pat4life said:
Defense, if she can defend, she'll be in the game but I would give her some of Burdick minutes for sure. I would like to see how she competes against a quality opponent and that goes for all the freshman. Come on Reynolds, Lady Vols up.

If we cant defend the dribble drive its going to be a long year.Defense is all heart. smh Go lady vols.
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Well the thing with the UTC game they were defending our three's with the tough man to man so we weren't getting many off. Why not put Dunbar in with her height to get some three's off? Didn't make sense. Also, I've seen nothing wrong with Dunbar's defense. And, if you're going to run a zone why not have a 6-2 guard at the top?
 
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mikey2smart said:
Also, those coaches had their fair share of struggles when they first started out. They weren't the big time coaches you see today in the beginning so it is rather unfair to compare Holly to them at this stage in their careers.
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They weren't handed a team full of All Americans either.
 
#122
#122
Yeah Im watching the Tenn vs Marquette came back and New England vs Packers game.

Im gonna piss a few off when I flip to the Lady Vols game. My friends usually head to other room, cos they know im intense. lol

I guess there's only one way to find out, play em. Play the youngens, she cant play no worse than Burdick.
 
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mikey2smart said:
I was in agreement with what you were saying up until this point. Since when is sniffing a final four a successful season in Tennessee terms? ALOE of the blame has been put at the feet of Holly, aand I can't really argue against it for the lineups she put on the floor in the UTC game. However, at the end of the day a coach can only do so much. Speaking from experience here, the fire, energy, effort, and all out hustle that we all can agree is lacking can't be taught. Players either have it or they don't. So I think that your assessment of Holly is invalid and has no morale ground to stand on. Just my opinion, we can happily agree to disagree.
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I only said that because if you watch every interview with the players up to the coaches their not talking about playing for the title, it's always playing in the final four. Like just reaching the final four is enough with the talent we have. That's all I was saying.
 
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Orange_Mamba said:
I only said that because if you watch every interview with the players up to the coaches their not talking about playing for the title, it's always playing in the final four. Like just reaching the final four is enough with the talent we have. That's all I was saying.
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Oh okay my apologies then. I agree wholeheartedly with your assessment in that case. Lol
 
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