Gary Parrish's take on BP and Tennessee

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BigZiti09 said:
I'm not going to guess what his salary will be but it would be cheap considering what you're getting as coach.

The reasons I listed is why I believe he will be cheap. Also, go look at coaching salaries. It doesn't always add up. Buddy of mine told me today that 8 of the top 25 highest paid coaches are in the SEC.
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I can go ahead and tell you that's false.

I don't know who will be hiring. I should have said teams hiring coaches that will be interested in Pearl. Teams like bc, bama, auburn, Clemson.

A blue blood isn't going to hire pearl fresh off a 3 year show cause IMO.
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Well why shouldn't they? If he's the best available coach out there why wouldn't an AD hire him? Why wouldn't they put emotions aside and swallow their pride and hire the best available coach?
 
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VolFreakJosh said:
Because neither Shaka or Marshall hasn't shown that they can win at Tennessee? Bruce on the other hand, already has. Why take a chance on hiring one of those guys instead of hiring the man whose already accomplished many things at Tennessee?
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You didn't answer my question at all
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
While I'm all for Pearl being rehired, there is a ton of naivety on here when it comes to Pearl.
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Exactly.

I have said I'm for it and will support it, but holy $hit, The Legend of Pearl has grown to epic priorities.

I mean, on one hand you've got a contingency saying he's a top 5 coach in the game and a future HOF. Then on the other hand you've got a group saying that he would basically come and coach Tennessee for free.

The man used other schools multiple times while at Tennessee to get a raise from Hamilton (nothing wrong with that, everyone does it), but that should show you he obviously likes money (once again nothing wrong with that). To think that he's gonna say, oh Mr. Hart you're such a cool guy and I like Tennessee so much, I'll give you a $10 million discount.

As you said, naivety on this board in regards to Pearl is up there.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
I can go ahead and tell you that's false.



Well why shouldn't they? If he's the best available coach out there why wouldn't an AD hire him? Why wouldn't they put emotions aside and swallow their pride and hire the best available coach?
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I'll look it up tomorrow.

Because they don't have to. They have more options. They can hire others. Because of pearl's unique situation, he's attainable for teams that wouldn't have a chance otherwise. Also, I could be wrong. Say Cal goes to the NBA and they go searching. I'm guessing they'd call Pearl before they got too far down the list and if that happened, they'd pay him well. Point is, I don't see any big openings this year and I think Bruce will land at a school similar to those I listed. And when he does, he will win.
 
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I may agree with his position on this but I have zero respect for Gary Parrish's opinion on most anything. He is a Memphis homer and those statements regarding UT hiring a less than proven coach were meant to be deragatory toward UT ....don't let GP fool you.,,he's not liking UT at all ,,,,
 
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BigZiti09 said:
I'll look it up tomorrow.

Because they don't have to. They have more options. They can hire others. Because of pearl's unique situation, he's attainable for teams that wouldn't have a chance otherwise. Also, I could be wrong. Say Cal goes to the NBA and they go searching. I'm guessing they'd call Pearl before they got too far down the list and if that happened, they'd pay him well. Point is, I don't see any big openings this year and I think Bruce will land at a school similar to those I listed. And when he does, he will win.
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I think Pearl has zero chance of being considered at UK.
 
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BigZiti09 said:
I'll look it up tomorrow.
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It's 5 according to this.... Here Are The Salaries For The Highest-Paid College Basketball Coaches - Business Insider

Because they don't have to. They have more options. They can hire others. Because of pearl's unique situation, he's attainable for teams that wouldn't have a chance otherwise. Also, I could be wrong. Say Cal goes to the NBA and they go searching. I'm guessing they'd call Pearl before they got too far down the list and if that happened, they'd pay him well. Point is, I don't see any big openings this year and I think Bruce will land at a school similar to those I listed. And when he does, he will win.
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Which is fine....but if Bama, Tennessee, Clemson, BC, UGA and Auburn all want him and have him #1 on their list, you think he's a $1.5 million guy?

Bama is paying Grant 1.8 million, you think they pay less for Pearl? Given the money they've got, $2.5 sounds more than possible for them to throw out there.

Auburn pays Barbee $1.5 million, you think their AD says, hey Bruce we'll pay you what we did Tony. They're paying Gus almost $4 million now, I'm guessing they'd throw out $2.5+ too.

Yet I'm supposed to believe Pearl is gonna say, sure Dave, I'll come back for $1 million plus less and these crazy expectations the fans have of me.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
It's 5 according to this.... Here Are The Salaries For The Highest-Paid College Basketball Coaches - Business Insider



Which is fine....but if Bama, Tennessee, Clemson, BC, UGA and Auburn all want him and have him #1 on their list, you think he's a $1.5 million guy?

Bama is paying Grant 1.8 million, you think they pay less for Pearl? Given the money they've got, $2.5 sounds more than possible for them to throw out there.
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I agree with that. Like I said, I'm not guessing numbers. $2.5 million for Bruce Pearl would be a steal for any of those schools. No-brainer.
 
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2-2.5 million for BP would be cheap. Especially since he wouldn't require a buyout.

He's not going to give a discount.
 
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BigZiti09 said:
I agree with that. Like I said, I'm not guessing numbers. $2.5 million for Bruce Pearl would be a steal for any of those schools. No-brainer.
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Well my tangent stemmed from this quote..:

patrick said:
Hiring CBP would not cost the University the additional buyout of an active coach. UT could pay CBP 1.5 mill.
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If you're gonna have to pay Pearl 2.5-3 million, I would rather get Marshall for 2.5 and less baggage, but that's jmo.

My whole point was Pearl isn't gonna be cheap if he's truly the hot commodity and top 10 coach people are calling him. And I can assure you, he's not gonna give Tennessee some multi million dollar discount. Lol
 
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The reasons Pearl would take a little less money at UT: His kids, residence, alumni / booster relationships, & he loves the Knoxville community.
 
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Some people say they would back Pearl if he was hired, but it's funny how just about every post they make is dripping with venom towards Pearl. lmao
 
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Marshall isn't coming to UT. That ship has sailed. He's been passed over twice. Fox isn't going anywhere because he'll probably finish no worse than 3rd in the SEC. So Pearl isn't going to UGA. Grant isn't doing well at Bama but he has a huge contract. Something like 5 years left. And his buyout? $5 million. So yeah, Pearl isn't going to Bama either. Pearl may go to Clemson or BC, but I highly doubt there is another SEC program with an opening that will appeal to him.
 
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Volballfan said:
Actually you would be pretty successful at this point. More are abandoning ship daily and trying to find a place on the Pearl train. So typical of those losers.
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Some of those people feel like they are hedging their bets. I'm all for Bruce, now let me talk **** about him. It's pretty funny.

If you are offended by this post, then yes I am talking to you.
 
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"Cuonzo is in his third year, they were basically border line top 25 in the preseason, they haven't lived up to that, they got a couple of good wins, they got some bad losses and they may or may not make the NCAA Tournament. If they make the tournament then I think it's all a non issue, I think they're going to keep him."
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Finally got around to listening, lot of junk.

"A lot of this will come down to whether Tennessee HAS TO HIRE a coach or not."

"Let's PRETEND that they do."

"then, I think there's going to be a lot of pressure on them to do it...and... this is the same school that has caved to pressure before."
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Then he starts to go off the rail about Jay Bilas and Len Elmore and ESPN being the reason the administration caved.

The administration caved because Bruce and Jones, already in trouble, did not report the "bump".

"Keeping in mind, that last time you needed to hire a coach, you couldn't do better than Cuonzo Martin, the Missouri State coach who had never gone to an NCAA Tournament, so whatever you think of Cuonzo Martin, think of in these terms...when you needed to hire a coach last time the best you could do is a guy from the Missouri Valley Conference who had never gone to the NCAA Tournament, so that's sort of where you are operating when you're tryin to hire the next guy."
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This is just irresponsible. We couldn't do better than Coach Martin because no one knew whether or not we would be hammered by the NCAA. No PROVEN coach would have taken the job then, no matter the money offered, not Stevens, not Williams, not Smart, not Marshall...what we could do then and what we can do now aren't relatable imo.

Next up Tom Jurich...Petrino did not get fired from Louisville. Petrino did not get into trouble with the NCAA at Louisville. Jurich did not get fired from Louisville because of Petrino...HOWEVER...isn't the situation more similar to AD Jeff Long at Arkansas, should we ask Long if he'd hire Petrino back?

Tom Crean/ Brad Stevens//lol...

If you want Bruce Pearl back, the only time you can do it is right now...I would probably buy out my coach, no matter what, and get it done.
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Sounds so simple.:)

Auburn.

ok, I really don't think...whatever.

"He's (Cuonzo) had a hard time winning people over, but he was always going to have a hard time winning people over."
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BigZiti09 said:
So because Marshall has 1 final four vs Pearl's 1 elite 8, he's a better coach? I'll keep that in mind for future reference.
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Basically, it is the same flawed brand of logic that would say that Georgia once went to a final four under Hugh Durham, but Tennesseee has been only as far as the elite eight. Therefore, Georgia has a better tradition in basketball than Tennessee.
 
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Tournament or no tournament, the longer we stick with Cuonzo, the longer we'll be mired in mediocrity. If UT doesn't offer to rehire Bruce, some other needy program in the SEC is going to make him an offer he can't refuse, so Cheek/Hart had better handle this well. I like Greg Marshall, but in spite of how successful he's been at Wichita he hasn't proven that he can do anything at UT or in the SEC, but Bruce has. He has a track record that we can look to as a barometer to gauge how well he might do yet again.
 
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